BnPac Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 48 minutes ago, WildHeart said: Not hive trying to defend rape with calling everyone else talks about it racists They turned into new barbz, a disgusting fanbase No Hive member here defended rape. Actually a lot Hive members (in the base at least) initially started calling him a rapist and ask for a divorce while some remain reserved and decided to wait for the trials decision. What we do not allow however, is Beyoncé being dragged into this matter. The BB's list happened a while ago and it's time for you and the rest of your stanbase to move on from that tbh. Edited December 14, 2024 by BnPac 11
on the line Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, Arrogant said: Nothing new. The kind of "animal" who cheats on his superstar, beautiful wife perhaps? 1 5
Arrogant Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 26 minutes ago, on the line said: ETA - WHY IS A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD CHILD EVEN FAMILIAR WITH DIDDY AND JAY-Z?! Since her story is unravelling faster than your sanity, her alleged proximity to these people is exactly the thing in question. Reading is hard for Elmo! 1 11
Arrogant Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, on the line said: The kind of "animal" who cheats on his superstar, beautiful wife perhaps? You thought you did something. Womp womp. 2
on the line Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, Arrogant said: Since her story is unravelling faster than your sanity, her alleged proximity to these people is exactly the thing in question. Reading is hard for Elmo! Calling me names because I'm taking the side of a victim? Maybe rethink your priorities. 6
Arrogant Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 3 minutes ago, BnPac said: No Hive member here defended rape. Actually a lot Hive members (in the base at least) initially started calling him a rapist and ask for a divorce while some remain reserved and decided to wait for the trials decision. What we do not allow however, is Beyoncé being dragged into this matter. The BB's list happened a while ago and it's for you and the rest of your stanbase to move on from that tbh. Yep. I held off on commenting because I wanted to get to the truth. And now we have very compelling reasons to doubt these two people were ever even in the same room. 4
Arrogant Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Just now, on the line said: Calling me names because I'm taking the side of a victim? Maybe rethink your priorities. Reading continues to be hard for Elmo! 1
KingBeyonce. Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, on the line said: These mansions in the middle of NYC sure don't have any U-shaped driveways: https://streeteasy.com/blog/7-jaw-dropping-historic-mansions-in-new-york-city/ I'm not reading the rest of your paragraph when you start is out with completely false information. When did I say that mansions with u-shaped driveways DON'T exist? In the next sentence, I literally say that mansions can always be rented so it doesn't matter what he owned anyway. I said that because I figured you guys were talking about the properties Diddy owned at the time which would not be perceived as a mansion with a U-shaped driveway by anyone. You're an idiot. Edit: lol and the article you posted still doesn't show driveways so I'm not sure what your point was anyway. Edited December 14, 2024 by KingBeyonce. 2
BnPac Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Just now, Arrogant said: You thought you did something. Womp womp. Frankly, the level is on the floor, I don't get Hives or other fanbases who argue with Swifties, most of them are just so vanilla and try too hard, it's either numbers or some very corny reply. OT : The lawyer appears fishy to me now. 1 1
Starshine Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Death... to all abusers and false accusers. 1 2
Trent W Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 Tbh False accusers are as bad as rapists You can completely ruin someone's life with claiming that alone 8
45seconds Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vermillion said: Jesus, both the Hive and Swifties are foul. Your reputations here and elsewhere are well earned. As for future attempted OP updates I'm having trouble on mobile and am out the rest of the day so I'll attempt much later tonight. Who gives a ****, Mother Teresa. You aren't Jake Tapper. Edited December 14, 2024 by 45seconds 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 9 minutes ago, on the line said: Calling me names because I'm taking the side of a victim? Maybe rethink your priorities. The victim here are JayZ and Beyonce, so if u care about victims, how about u redirect ur passion (but we all know that wont happen because ur a hater who is deeply jealous that Bey is as successful as she is and has her life together) 4 2 1
swissman Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BnPac said: Let's say you're right. The question why didn't he just pay her off when the lawyer asked him to settle privately. Why did he decide himself to take this publicly if he had the attention of paying her? this. and in general, it seems people are confusing fans defending their fave no matter what with people who happen to be fans questioning a lawsuit that is now questionable beyond even anything Jay-Z has said to counter it. Like, he could have said nothing so far and this interview would still raise questions. If we all believe she is 100% telling the truth, what does it mean when she goes on TV ahead of court proceedings to say things that are 100% confirmed to be untrue? Can we not say the odds are now at least 99% that she's not telling the truth? Especially when she's also said she might have misidentified people?! Obviously it's fair that after 24 years people can misremember details, but if you're bringing up misremembered stuff it's not going to help your case, and you'd think stuff like the details of the night would have come up in any meeting with lawyers who would then, in the best interests of winning their suit, seek confirmation of these facts. A lot of research goes on in practicing law so it's just odd that certain details people are talking about now either weren't corrected before she ever went on TV, or weren't mentioned or prepared for when the client accepted an interview. Or perhaps they weren't ever mentioned at all in any meeting with lawyers, and she's just adding new things which the lawyers didn't know about before going forward. Either way, more real evidence needs to be put forward and if it's clear Jay is to blame, I and many, many Hive will not be on his side at all. Edited December 14, 2024 by swissman 3
alexrex Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) Tbh, that donation Beyoncé did a few days ago seems more like some sort of buying silence. If this is not a real case, then Jay Z might be hiding something else. Spoiler Maybe that's why they have a song called Bonnie and Clyde? Edited December 14, 2024 by alexrex 1 14
ScorpiosGroove Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, alexrex said: Tbh, that donation Beyoncé did a few days ago seems more like some sort of buying silence. If this is not a real case, then Jay Z might be hiding something else. you're pathetic 3
BnPac Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, swissman said: if it's clear Jay is to blame, I and many, many Hive will not be on his side at all. Like that's a no brainer and they know that considering how openly wary (some even insulting) some Hives are about Jay on this forum. They know that but are still chose falsehood. I do not condone kids being hurt and as a woman I sure as hell could never condone such a heinous crime. If he turns out to be guilty then no support will be shown to him whatsoever. 3
swissman Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, alexrex said: Tbh, that donation Beyoncé did a few days ago seems more like some sort of buying silence. If this is not a real case, then Jay Z might be hiding something else. So let's get this straight: Beyoncé donated money to a Law Center to support its Criminal Justice Clinic which means she was "buying silence" from someone who is not affiliated to the Law Center which resulted in that very person doing an interview for a national news network? Edited December 14, 2024 by swissman 10
Arrogant Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 1 minute ago, swissman said: this. and in general, it seems people are confusing fans defending their fave no matter what with people who happen to be fans questioning a lawsuit that is now questionable beyond even anything Jay-Z has said to counter it. Like, he could have said nothing so far and this interview would still raise questions. If we all believe she is 100% telling the truth, what does it mean when she goes on TV ahead of court proceedings to say things that are 100% confirmed to be untrue? Can we not say the odds are now at least 99% that she's not telling the truth? Especially when she's also said she might have misidentified people?! Obviously it's fair that after 24 years people can misremember details, but if you're bringing up misremembered stuff it's not going to help your case, and you'd think stuff like the details of the night would have come up in any meeting with lawyers who would then, in the best interests of winning their suit, seek confirmation of these facts. A lot of research goes on in practicing law so it's just odd that certain details people are talking about now either weren't corrected before she ever went on TV, or weren't mentioned or prepared for when the client accepted an interview. Either way, more real evidence needs to be put forward and if it's clear Jay is to blame, I and many, many Hive will not be on his side at all. Exactly. If more evidence comes out to the contrary, I will follow the evidence, because above all I hate misinformation and I always want to know the truth. But what we've seen so far is damning, and I don't see how it can be explained away. The most damning is making up a conversation with a celebrity who was verifiably in another city. People are still trying to give her the benefit of the doubt because they don't want people to think they're "calling a victim a liar", but how can this be anything but a lie? At best you can say this wasn't malicious, that she's just confused or delusional. But that still means she's an unreliable witness. "She lied about this celebrity, but she's telling the truth about this celebrity" is an irrational position to take.
on the line Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 13 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: The victim here are JayZ and Beyonce, so if u care about victims, how about u redirect ur passion (but we all know that wont happen because ur a hater who is deeply jealous that Bey is as successful as she is and has her life together) The scariest part of your reply is that you actually believe this. 13
BnPac Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 ^ No, the scariest is that, what he says pertaining to your feelings is in fact true. 1
PoisonPill Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 That interview the accuser gave to NBC was rough... Just too many inconsistencies and details that are provably false. It also is suspicious that all of these accuser lawsuits are coming from the same fame-seeking attorney in Texas. It seems like this accusation is going to fall apart pretty quickly.
Giorgoc Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 3 hours ago, BnPac said: Jay-Z is the one who went public with this. He sued the lawyer and released a statement explaining he was asked for a private settlement for raping a 13 year old boy and girl and he doesn't want to settle, he doesn't want it to be kept private, he wants and asked the lawyer to file instead. Wait, then how come people just assume he's guilty? If anything this makes it much more obvious that he's innocent.
Lovett Posted December 14, 2024 Posted December 14, 2024 48 minutes ago, on the line said: I'm not reading the rest of your paragraph when you start is out with completely false information. Girl, we all know you read the full post. You just can't actually dispute any of it, because the whole story has fallen apart. You've been desperately wanting Beyoncé's demise for years and this isn't it, so stfu and move on. It's embarrassing. 11
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