celeb news Update: Sexual assault case against Jay-Z dismissed

[Hey Babes]

This is getting so messy 

 

[kimberly]

5 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said:

I wonder if maybe she got the year or the event wrong.

even if that were the case, her father saying he's never driven from Rochester to NYC to pick her up in the middle of the night while she insists he did... isn't great.

[ChooseyLover]

1 minute ago, kimberly said:

even if that were the case, her father saying he's never driven from Rochester to NYC to pick her up in the middle of the night while she insists he did... isn't great.

Funny enough, that part is the inconsistency that would worry me the least. There are parents that just simply... don't care for their children and wouldn't remember a damn thing that happened to them, even if they were involved somehow in the events like he was.

 

Sure, all this made me be more open to Jay Z potentially being a victim of a scam this time around, but we'll see how this develops.

[Polgg48]

wrap it up babe, what a clown show

 

[kimberly]

Just now, ChooseyLover said:

Funny enough, that part is the inconsistency that would worry me the least. There are parents that just simply... don't care for their children and wouldn't remember a damn thing that happened to them, even if they were involved somehow in the events like he was.

 

Sure, all this made me be more open to Jay Z potentially being a victim of a scam this time around, but we'll see how this develops.

yeah, idk. Rochester to NYC is an insane drive. the timeline would have to be something like:

 

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2 pm: accuser sneaks out of her house through the window to go to the VMAs with her now-dead friend

8 pm: VMAs live show begins

11 pm: afterparties

midnight/1 am (guesstimate): alleged rape occurs

1 am: calling dad to pick her up from gas station

1-6 am: dad drives to said NYC gas station

6-11 am: dad & accuser drive back to Rochester "in silence, tense"

 

this is an absolutely bonkers event for a father to "forget" completely. neglectful or not. 10 hour drive to pick up your 13 year-old daughter at a random gas station... there's no way he'd have absolutely no recollection of this. I refuse to believe that at all. a local drive? sure. I'm not gonna argue she wasn't raped at all. but the NYC/VMAs claim isn't feasible, imo.

 

[ChooseyLover]

4 minutes ago, kimberly said:

yeah, idk. Rochester to NYC is an insane drive. the timeline would have to be something like:

 

this is an absolutely bonkers event for a father to "forget" completely. neglectful or not. 10 hour drive to pick up your 13 year-old daughter at a random gas station... there's no way he'd have absolutely no recollection of this. I refuse to believe that at all. a local drive? sure. I'm not gonna argue she wasn't raped at all. but the NYC/VMAs claim isn't feasible, imo.

 

I'm with you on that ngl... I mean, apparently the father had some issues that would alter his recollection of things so I'm not 100% sold on this being the dealbreaker for the case. But yeah... not sure how all of this will be sustained in court when it can barely be sustained by the public opinion on social media.

[Lovett]

9 hours ago, StayFrosty said:

But lbr she used the cheating scandal for her album cycle. The rumours started in 2013 and she didn't say anything before OR after. Only he mentioned it.

Incorrect, she released the "Flawless Remix" featuring Nicki Minaj in 2014 which referenced the elevator incident. This appeared on her 2013 self-titled album. It's funny that Beyoncé was attacked for so many years for her music not being 'personal' enough. People praised artists like Taylor Swift, Adele and Ed Sheeran for writing and singing about their lives and relationships. As soon as Beyoncé does, she's attacked for "using" the situation or in some people's minds; fabricating the whole thing for the album.

 

OT: Wow, there's a lot of inconsistencies in her story.  This lawyer really just used her for his own gain, this is sick.

[Stankonia]

5 hours ago, Rotunda said:

I am curious at the kind of cavalier way the dad dismissed the allegations. Regardless of the veracity of the claims, I can't imagine a  (good) dad being so flippant about whether or not it happened.

 

Yup.

 

Not the Hive circle jerking about two possible inconsistencies in the testimony of the alleged rape victim recounting what happened to her 24 years ago, when she was a 13 year old child and going as far as calling the alleged victim, an autistic woman a "slow b!tch"   Some of y'all are SICK

[Lovett]

13 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Yup.

 

Not the Hive circle jerking about two possible inconsistencies in the testimony of the alleged rape victim recounting what happened to her 24 years ago, when she was a 13 year old child and going as far as calling the alleged victim, an autistic woman a "slow b!tch"   Some of y'all are SICK

Anyone who refers to her in such a way is disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves, but you are downplaying how major these multiple inconsistencies are in her story. It's not just a case of her forgetting what he was wearing, or the room layout where it happened. She's fabricated conversations with alleged witnesses who were in different states at the time, fabricated a whole narrative about her father driving her across the country which he has denied and now it turns out the location isn't even correct.

 

These are huge, gaping holes in her story. People are happy that it seems to be the accusation was false, but it seems like you want him to be a rapist and a paedophile?  But we're the sick ones?

[The7thStranger]

I get the impression something horrible happened to her, and she's being exploited by the lawyer.

[Space Cowboy]

That lawyer needs to get disbarred.. he fully thought Jay Z would settle and was trying to make a quick buck.

[Album Leak]

If the story is completely false and fabricated, I don't really see why Jay Z was so fast to put out such a weird defending statement when the story was picking up heat. And then there's the tweets about the lawyer and his family being '' followed by mysterious people '' or whatever, people calling to his associates and his workplace to talk smack about him, and the thousand dollar bribe phone call that was supposedly recorded? Is all that fake too? But perhaps this is standard practices and I don't understand the legal system of US, which I don't.

 

I wouldn't put it against her father being bribed to go against her testimony either. Like let's not be naive when it comes to billionaires, yeah?

 

But it's obvious this is going to be an insanely tedious uphill battle for the supposed victim that she might never win if she truly was sexually abused by Diddy and Jay Z. But if it never even happened, that's just pure evil.

[ToraeGilt]

5 minutes ago, Album Leak said:

If the story is completely false and fabricated, I don't really see why Jay Z was so fast to put out such a weird defending statement when the story was picking up heat. And then there's the tweets about the lawyer and his family being '' followed by mysterious people '' or whatever, people calling to his associates and his workplace to talk smack about him, and the thousand dollar bribe phone call that was supposedly recorded? Is all that fake too? But perhaps this is standard practices and I don't understand the legal system of US, which I don't.

 

I wouldn't put it against her father being bribed to go against her testimony either. Like let's not be naive when it comes to billionaires, yeah?

 

But it's obvious this is going to be an insanely tedious uphill battle for the supposed victim that she might never win if she truly was sexually abused by Diddy and Jay Z. But if it never even happened, that's just pure evil.

He was being accused of raping a 13 year old! You ppl are insane! 
 

why would Jay Z even bribe the dad when he could've "confidentially mediated" to prevent all this from coming out? 
 

I'm all for believing the victim first, hence why I didn't even defend JAY z when this story broke. With that being said, if you watched the video of the victim explaining what happened and read the article along with the lawyer being exposed for being a money hungry leach then it's not hard to put two and two together. 
 

[AlanRickman1946]

11 minutes ago, Album Leak said:

If the story is completely false and fabricated, I don't really see why Jay Z was so fast to put out such a weird defending statement when the story was picking up heat. And then there's the tweets about the lawyer and his family being '' followed by mysterious people '' or whatever, people calling to his associates and his workplace to talk smack about him, and the thousand dollar bribe phone call that was supposedly recorded? Is all that fake too? But perhaps this is standard practices and I don't understand the legal system of US, which I don't.

 

I wouldn't put it against her father being bribed to go against her testimony either. Like let's not be naive when it comes to billionaires, yeah?

 

But it's obvious this is going to be an insanely tedious uphill battle for the supposed victim that she might never win if she truly was sexually abused by Diddy and Jay Z. But if it never even happened, that's just pure evil.

You make a good point. TBH, I would never say I was a victim of historical sex abuse because of how tricky it would be to prove it.

[Cbreezy]

10 minutes ago, Album Leak said:

If the story is completely false and fabricated, I don't really see why Jay Z was so fast to put out such a weird defending statement when the story was picking up heat. And then there's the tweets about the lawyer and his family being '' followed by mysterious people '' or whatever, people calling to his associates and his workplace to talk smack about him, and the thousand dollar bribe phone call that was supposedly recorded? Is all that fake too? But perhaps this is standard practices and I don't understand the legal system of US, which I don't.

 

I wouldn't put it against her father being bribed to go against her testimony either. Like let's not be naive when it comes to billionaires, yeah?

 

But it's obvious this is going to be an insanely tedious uphill battle for the supposed victim that she might never win if she truly was sexually abused by Diddy and Jay Z. But if it never even happened, that's just pure evil.

This is giving extremely dense and committed to doubling down on a story that literally does not make sense. 

 

Lemme be clear and say that only those involved truly know what did or didn't happen.

 

But, like many of us "switched on" folk have been saying from the get go, it's vital to let the facts play out before bringing out the pitchforks. We are seeing the illogical theatre unravel in realtime and yet you're typing paragraphs to try and spin it into truthful reality.  
 

Pls be serious.

 

It's all at once ok to not like Jay, admit to initially believing it (automatically), and now realize that it was trigger-happy to do so given that the whole thing is embarrassingly coming undone.

[LVP]

16 minutes ago, Album Leak said:

. And then there's the tweets about the lawyer and his family being '' followed by mysterious people '' or whatever, people calling to his associates and his workplace to talk smack about him, and the thousand dollar bribe phone call that was supposedly recorded? Is all that fake too? But perhaps this is standard practices and I don't understand the legal system of US, which I don't.

 

 

1. Don't believe everything you see on twitter

2. Jay probably has some weird stans that are able to do so, the same way as Taylor fans acted towards certain journalists. That does not have to mean anything in the case.

[Stankonia]

28 minutes ago, Lovett said:

Anyone who refers to her in such a way is disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves, but you are downplaying how major these multiple inconsistencies are in her story. It's not just a case of her forgetting what he was wearing, or the room layout where it happened. She's fabricated conversations with alleged witnesses who were in different states at the time, fabricated a whole narrative about her father driving her across the country which he has denied and now it turns out the location isn't even correct.

 

These are huge, gaping holes in her story. People are happy that it seems to be the accusation was false, but it seems like you want him to be a rapist and a paedophile?  But we're the sick ones?

Oh you and your fellow Hive weirdos are definitely the sick ones lol. Unlike y'all I've never called the alleged victim a liar and a scammer and I haven't called Jay-Z a rapist or a pedo either. Normal people don't have to shamelessly jump to conclusions in order to defend their fave's husband.

 

Those two inconsistencies in the testimony of someone who was a 13 YEAR OLD CHILD at the time those horrific and traumatic things allegedly happened to her most definitely do not make the allegations categorically untrue and she could easily missremember things like who she talked to at the after party, you know, given that it happened 24 years ago when she was a 13 YEAR OLD CHILD and due to the traumatic nature of what she allegedly was subjected to. Or she could be making it all up but we definitely can't make this judgement call as of now.

 

Let's wait for justice to take its course until you jump at the first chance to bully this woman.

[SapphireSky]

That lawyer needs locking up

[Jay07]

Interesting. I didn't comment in this thread much because my first inclination is to always believe the victim and I wanted to wait and see how it plays out. That said, these inconsistencies are pretty major and definitely point to some ambulance chasing on the part of the lawyer.

 

Sadly, what's completely unsurprising are the usual suspects that were basically praying that this was true and a 13 year old really was raped so they could destroy Beyonce once and for all and deny her (unrelated) professional success. Truly sick.

[Jessica19]

And these lunatics going after Beyoncé and J.LO as the woman that watched it happen, hope they all sue

[Lovett]

7 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Oh you and your fellow Hive weirdos are definitely the sick ones lol. Unlike y'all I've never called the alleged victim a liar and a scammer and I haven't called Jay-Z a rapist or a pedo either. Normal people don't have to shamelessly jump to conclusions in order to defend their fave's husband.

 

Those two inconsistencies in the testimony of someone who was a 13 YEAR OLD CHILD at the time those horrific and traumatic things allegedly happened to her most definitely do not make the allegations categorically untrue and she could easily missremember things like who she talked to at the after party, you know, given that it happened 24 years ago when she was a 13 YEAR OLD CHILD and due to the traumatic nature of what she allegedly was subjected to. Or she could be making it all up but we definitely can't make this judgement call as of now.

 

Let's wait for justice to take its course until you jump at the first chance to bully this woman.

Love that you've just lumped me into your narrative, despite clearly not reading any of my previous comments on this topic. "Normal people" have been jumping to conclusions that he is both a rapist and a paedo, simply because there is an allegation. You included in that.

 

You keep saying "two inconsistencies", despite there being more than that, and them being overwhelmingly huge gaps in her story. I believe that something happened to her and her horrific lawyer is manipulating her into making this about Jay-Z, which is why her story is now falling apart and he's now clamouring to try and hold it together.

 

These "inconsistencies" aren't minor details that you can write off as a "13 year old child misremembering", these are integral aspects of the allegation; witnesses, the location of the attack and travelling for hours across the country. People are acknowledging that because it's a huge change in this case, but you seem deadset in your mindset that he's guilty.

[Kristie Kuwa]

Time to stream "Break My Soul", the lyrics make a lot of sense given that this is sth that describes Beys life and peoples weird obsession with trying bringing her and her family down

[Marla Singer]

And people wonder why Beyoncé doesn't **** with the media, bother with interviews, and is careful to be in control of anything she does put out to the public. Even if the allegations did have any truth to them, look at how quick people were to make it all about her and salivate at the thought of it ruining her life, family and career. It shows a really sick and deep level of hatred that people wanted a teenager to have experienced one of the most heinous crimes imaginable just so a celebrity they don't like can finally have a downfall.

[BnPac]

2 hours ago, Album Leak said:

If the story is completely false and fabricated, I don't really see why Jay Z was so fast to put out such a weird defending statement when the story was picking up heat. And then there's the tweets about the lawyer and his family being '' followed by mysterious people '' or whatever, people calling to his associates and his workplace to talk smack about him, and the thousand dollar bribe phone call that was supposedly recorded? Is all that fake too? But perhaps this is standard practices and I don't understand the legal system of US, which I don't.

 

I wouldn't put it against her father being bribed to go against her testimony either. Like let's not be naive when it comes to billionaires, yeah?

 

But it's obvious this is going to be an insanely tedious uphill battle for the supposed victim that she might never win if she truly was sexually abused by Diddy and Jay Z. But if it never even happened, that's just pure evil.

You people are just so weird. 

He was fast to put out a statement? Should he have just laid down and feel at ease being accused of rape and pedophilia? 

 

I will also remind you that Jay-Z is the one who went public with this. He sued the lawyer and released a statement explaining he was asked for a private settlement for raping a 13 year old boy and girl and he doesn't want to settle, he doesn't want it to be kept private, he wants and asked the lawyer to file instead. 

 

It was not a defending statement, it was an explanation statement. 

HE is the one who made it public. The lawyer never intended to. 

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OT : We don't know the full story yet. But if by any chance, this story turned out to be false, exploited by the lawyer or not, she should be sued and feel the full extent of the law and what she's doing to women everywhere. 

The lawyer too. 

 

Edited December 14, 2024 by BnPac

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4 hours ago, ChooseyLover said:

This isn't a good look for the accuser but I wouldn't count her story out just yet, although it's obvious the users in the last two or three pages can't wait for this to end (and in his favor). 

Many victims just don't remember the specifics of their rape and most of it is a total blur, especially if they were drugged like she says she was. It happening 24 years ago doesn't help either. I wonder if maybe she got the year or the event wrong.

Or. She was duped into doing it by some crack lawyer looking for a pay out. An accusation as public and as strong as this, you'd assume her facts would be all together and ironed out. Tis isn't something you can turn around and say 'oops my bad'.