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Posted
1 minute ago, Rush said:

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I was JUST about to post this lmao

it's perfect

Posted
6 minutes ago, Domination said:

There's no evidence he was bisexual. Gays spreading lies on social media ain't gonna cut it :skull: 

I mean he recently saw Wicked and is brat.  Plus, one of his best friends is a female. :coffee2:

 

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15 minutes ago, Capris Groove said:

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Omg I'm a beluga.

Well he looks ripped there, i mean in his most recent picture he looks average or maybe is the clothes idk lol

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, CoolNebraskaGuy said:

Finally, someone who understands how apocalyptic the French Revolution was!! Like, part of it was called "The Reign of Terror" for a reason y'all :deadbanana4:

 

FWIW, the French have one of the better democracies of our time, in no small part because of the Revolution. The question is, do you want to be part of the generation that attempts to press the reset button on your government? Because there's a substantial chance you won't be alive to see the result.

 

It's cynical but I think this leads to, like you said, a complete crackdown and tyranny. The USA is more likely to go in a tsarist Russia direction than it is to go back to it's square deal or new deal roots ala the Roosevelts. We Americans are ready for our Caesar, insofar as they ensure access to increasingly-hypnotizing algorithims and cheap garbage

 

There's a part of me that sympathizes with the idea a lot of people share of "oh, the billionaires and ultimate inequality are the root cause of all problems, we could just kill them all and we'd be better off" because it does sound quick and easy and it does appeal to the base urges, but I'm skeptical of the idea that such action would, in and of itself, just solve the world's problems (because most policy implementations require political capital and experience which can't exactly work if it gets... killed off). Even discounting the fact that utopianism is usually a sham trying to sell you a bridge and that the finite reality of resources inherently leads to hierarchy and inequality (and fighting upstream against that (as opposed to building systems to manage it) is futile, as can be seen in basically every society that's ever tried it), I don't think the French Revolution is a particularly good model because there wasn't a pre-established desired end-point, at which the beheadings could end (largely because they didn't believe in the concept of leaders ddd, so there weren't leaders around to tell them to stop tightening the purity standards once they reached a certain point of success), and it only ended with the coup of 18 Brumaire when power was essentially seized back by the military. Obviously the circumstances of the US in 2024 are different enough from l'Ancien Regime that I don't think we'll tread a similar path, but I still think it's an inspiration to be taken with a few dozen bricks of salt. 

 

All that's to say that I do think the current ruling elite are sleepwalking into some form of unrest/uprising because there is no effort made to assuage the growing discontent of the masses, and that this was another ratchet on the chain pulling us closer (the vast majority of the people in my circle, when asked, have been pro-Luigi and anti-UHC/system, and that just wouldn't have been the case pre-covid), and that we're pretty close to the dam bursting, but I don't think anyone can claim to have any idea of what that will look like. I will admit that I threw in a "soft landing" as a bit of an optimistic take because some sort of Rooseveltine figure is probably the best outcome IMO, but yeah I agree the masses are looking for their leader, and the institutions and opposition be damned and I think that leader is going to be whoever succeeds Trump as the head of the far right :suburban:

 

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I think my most blackpilled opinion is that I fundamentally believe most of the push to the "revolution" (in whatever form it takes) will come from the trad auth-right young men who are nominally backing Trump but are far too anti-semitic to back the current American system, and who are also the ones buying up most of the guns and having most of the kids. Despite being the precursor, I think Luigi is a bit anomalous in this regard, mostly because his motivation was entirely personal and not political, but if (once) we reach the point of normalized political violence I think the angsty young men (who are overwhelmingly leaning and further right in their anti-establishmentism) will be driving. To that end, the silver lining of the upcoming Trump administration is that it'll probably throw them enough bones to delay their revolution a few years:suburban:

 

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The lefties believe just as fervently, but they don't seem to be as well armed or nearly as well integrated into the military or LE, and the only instances in modern history (the time in which we have conceptions of "left" and "right", unless we're going to start retroactively applying it to monarchists and parliamentarians... in which case the same principle still applies ddd) where a leftist faction has beaten a rightist faction in a civil war immediately followed the majority of those rightist faction getting wiped out in interstate wars that the leftists mostly sat out :suburban:

Anyway... this isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back but... :giraffe:

 

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Yes Luigi, Yes Positive Social Change, Yes Medicare for All! 

 

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1 minute ago, artc0cx said:

Well he looks ripped there, i mean in his most recent picture he looks average or maybe is the clothes idk lol

 

 

You can see the shape of his pecs which protrude underneath the words on the shirt. :psyduck:

Posted
14 minutes ago, Rush said:

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When I write him a love letter I'll make sure he knows about this. I'll describe it picture for picture and line for line :eli:

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Kern said:

I wish we could show him this thread :jonny6:

I would just tell him to ignore @Xtina23, she drinks 

How rude!!!

I'll make sure @Kern does NOT get a prison wedding invite when that day happens

 

Anyways, does anyone know where this man is being held at?!

I want to apply to become a prison guard at his location.

Then I can birth our 3 future children - Defend, Deny & Depose.

#IKnowThatsRight

sdjdsklfndsl;jkfnds;jfnds

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26 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

When I write him a love letter I'll make sure he knows about this. I'll describe it picture for picture and line for line :eli:

excuse you - where is your letter? I am gifting you a shredder for xmas.

He's all mine miss mam'!!

hdsfjdsjfodsfdsf

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36 minutes ago, artc0cx said:

Well he looks ripped there, i mean in his most recent picture he looks average or maybe is the clothes idk lol

 

 

He's obviously a lot skinnier now, probably due to his injury and/or his reclusion.

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2 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

And what's really funny is we've BEEN the targets. The ultra-rich have been waging class war and they're not stopping.

 

When they force you to pay exorbitant insurance and then refuse to pay when you need it, that's class war. When they lay you off and and then reward themselves with multimillion-euro bonuses, that's class war. When they back anti-immigration rethoric which allows them to economically exploit undocumented migrants more easily, that's class war.

you ate here 

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It's important to remember it's not just the healthcare insurance companies that are rotten and which contribute to this broken healthcare system. There are other actors and components that should not be left out of this conversation.

 

Let us not forget about the providers (meaning companies that own hospitals and healthcare facilities, as well as, yes, doctors, physicians and anesthesiologists) that charge exorbitant prices which Americans already cannot afford, and which insurance companies will obviously try to not pay if they can get out of it and keep that money in their own coffers.

 

Greed and corruption all around, throughout the entire system. 

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8 minutes ago, dawnettakins said:

Let us not forget about the providers (meaning companies that own hospitals and healthcare facilities, as well as, yes, doctors, physicians and anesthesiologists) that charge exorbitant prices

I'm pretty confident most doctors do not set their own prices. Though, your larger point is correct. There's a lot of corporate rot to wade through, but the health insurance system is the biggest and most obvious problem.

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49 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

There's a part of me that sympathizes with the idea a lot of people share of "oh, the billionaires and ultimate inequality are the root cause of all problems, we could just kill them all and we'd be better off" because it does sound quick and easy and it does appeal to the base urges, but I'm skeptical of the idea that such action would, in and of itself, just solve the world's problems (because most policy implementations require political capital and experience which can't exactly work if it gets... killed off). Even discounting the fact that utopianism is usually a sham trying to sell you a bridge and that the finite reality of resources inherently leads to hierarchy and inequality (and fighting upstream against that (as opposed to building systems to manage it) is futile, as can be seen in basically every society that's ever tried it), I don't think the French Revolution is a particularly good model because there wasn't a pre-established desired end-point, at which the beheadings could end (largely because they didn't believe in the concept of leaders ddd, so there weren't leaders around to tell them to stop tightening the purity standards once they reached a certain point of success), and it only ended with the coup of 18 Brumaire when power was essentially seized back by the military. Obviously the circumstances of the US in 2024 are different enough from l'Ancien Regime that I don't think we'll tread a similar path, but I still think it's an inspiration to be taken with a few dozen bricks of salt. 

 

All that's to say that I do think the current ruling elite are sleepwalking into some form of unrest/uprising because there is no effort made to assuage the growing discontent of the masses, and that this was another ratchet on the chain pulling us closer (the vast majority of the people in my circle, when asked, have been pro-Luigi and anti-UHC/system, and that just wouldn't have been the case pre-covid), and that we're pretty close to the dam bursting, but I don't think anyone can claim to have any idea of what that will look like. I will admit that I threw in a "soft landing" as a bit of an optimistic take because some sort of Rooseveltine figure is probably the best outcome IMO, but yeah I agree the masses are looking for their leader, and the institutions and opposition be damned and I think that leader is going to be whoever succeeds Trump as the head of the far right :suburban:

 

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I think my most blackpilled opinion is that I fundamentally believe most of the push to the "revolution" (in whatever form it takes) will come from the trad auth-right young men who are nominally backing Trump but are far too anti-semitic to back the current American system, and who are also the ones buying up most of the guns and having most of the kids. Despite being the precursor, I think Luigi is a bit anomalous in this regard, mostly because his motivation was entirely personal and not political, but if (once) we reach the point of normalized political violence I think the angsty young men (who are overwhelmingly leaning and further right in their anti-establishmentism) will be driving. To that end, the silver lining of the upcoming Trump administration is that it'll probably throw them enough bones to delay their revolution a few years:suburban:

 

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The lefties believe just as fervently, but they don't seem to be as well armed or nearly as well integrated into the military or LE, and the only instances in modern history (the time in which we have conceptions of "left" and "right", unless we're going to start retroactively applying it to monarchists and parliamentarians... in which case the same principle still applies ddd) where a leftist faction has beaten a rightist faction in a civil war immediately followed the majority of those rightist faction getting wiped out in interstate wars that the leftists mostly sat out :suburban:

Anyway... this isn't the straw that breaks the camel's back but... :giraffe:

 

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Yes Luigi, Yes Positive Social Change, Yes Medicare for All! 

 

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Read through this entire essay and kinda vibe with the whole thing, ummm sis when are you free for checking out those cabins again so we can be gay socialist Luiginators together until the government decides we can't have rights

 

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11 minutes ago, dawnettakins said:

Friendly reminder that it's not just the healthcare insurance companies that are rotten and which contribute to this broken healthcare system. There are other actors and components that should not be left out of this conversation.

You deciding to pick up the talking point of Big Centrists is so funny because 

 

1) it exposes where you're getting your own views and media ecosystem 

 

2) you'll be happy to find out how Medicare For All works in lowering costs by both reducing 3rd party private insurance overhead costs in administration by doing away with multi-payer structures and giving Medicare power for negotiating rates with providers as the sole insurer operating in the nation. 

 

It's almost like leftists had the answers to these sudden concerns over 8 years ago. :suburban:

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1 hour ago, BeenTheShit said:

Dear John (TV) and my tears ricochet.  The taste jumped out! :clap3:

 

I feel like this isn't real tbh. Stans always spreading misinformation.

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The McDonald's snitch not getting the money. Fawking LOSER omg.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Cheers said:

The McDonald's snitch not getting the money. Fawking LOSER omg.

He's next I hope

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23 minutes ago, nadiamendell said:

If the reports of his username on Reddit being Mister_Cactus are true, then there are some signs. :eli: I notice he was a regular poster in r/gaymers. He also sounds more like a lefty than I would have thought, but also like a big troll :rip: I'm just now imagining the horror I would feel if I became a public figure and some of my posts started being scrutinized. :suburban:

https://www.reddit.com/u/mister_cactus_/s/QBPSwx7kdK
 

This him?

Posted
1 minute ago, americanlife said:

He's next I hope

Put him in the room with Luigi

 

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1 minute ago, Revolution said:

 

Mochi KING! I love Mochi too omg. We were meant to date omg?

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Read through this entire essay and kinda vibe with the whole thing, ummm sis when are you free for checking out those cabins again so we can be gay socialist Luiginators together until the government decides we can't have rights

 

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I'd love nothing more than to become an anarchobag with you and ride out the revolution well armed and in seclusion, my beloved short king 

 

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do you have skills or knowledge regarding escape tunnel construction? I went down a ruby ridge sized internet rabbit hole a few weeks ago and now I'm paranoid. If not, we can learn together but just thought I'd ask

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Bloo said:

I'm pretty confident most doctors do not set their own prices. Though, your larger point is correct. There's a lot of corporate rot to wade through, but the health insurance system is the biggest and most obvious problem.

And hospitals, or the companies owning the healthcare facilities? You don't think they set those egregious prices? Sure, I'm sure they work in tandem with insurance, but they certainly set prices where they are.

 

I would highly encourage you to look into the egregious practices and actions of anesthesiologists as one example, and how hospitals will use one that's "out of network" to charge patients $8,000 or something ridiculous out of pocket for something they don't have control over.

 

1 minute ago, Communion said:

You deciding to pick up the talking point of Big Centrists is so funny because 

 

1) it exposes where you're getting your own views and media ecosystem 

 

2) you'll be happy to find out how Medicare For All works in lowering costs by both reducing 3rd party private insurance overhead costs in administration and giving Medicare power for negotiating rates with providers as the sole insurer operating in the nation. 

And where did I say we shouldn't be putting healthcare insurance companies' feet to the fire? I literally stated it's not just them, as there's plenty of other corrupt actors in the system too that we need to be going after as well. And we shouldn't forget that by focusing exclusively on one part of a corrupt system when it's the entire system taken together that's lead us to where we are.

 

You deciding to put words in my mouth and acting like I'm somehow centrist and defending the decrepit, murderous insurance industry is so funny when I said no such thing.

 

All I said is to look at the corrupt providers and monied interests behind them too. Not at the expense of insurance gangsters, but in addition to.

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