Kendrick criticized for using a slur in new album

[Uncatena]

2 hours ago, Blue. said:

Since when is Eskimo a slur like you are making **** up at this point

 

2 hours ago, Phaunzie said:

Since when was eskimo deemed a slur? This is the first time I am hearing about this.

 

8 minutes ago, SapphireSky said:

No one gives a ****

first of all, the first instinct when a marginalised group of people tells you a word is offensive to them is to stop ******* using it. second of all, it takes one (1) google search to find out that this has been a conversation for a LONG time and that many Inuit advocacy groups have been trying to tell us to stop using this word. 

 

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The term E**** is regarded by many as a derogative term because it is used to describe a very large group of people with different traits and languages. Furthermore, if translated into Alonquin laguage (spoken by indigenous people in Ontario and Quebec, Canada), it means: 'eaters of raw meat'. Obviously, eating raw meat is not the one thing that defines the Inuit people of Canada, or 'Inuk' if referring to a single person of Inuit descent. 

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People in many parts of the Arctic consider E**** a derogatory term because it was widely used by racist, non-native colonizers. Many people also thought it meant eater of raw meat, which connoted barbarism and violence. Although the word's exact etymology is unclear, mid-century anthropologists suggested that the word came from the Latin word excommunicati, meaning the excommunicated ones, because the native people of the Canadian Arctic were not Christian.

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"We have culture and traditions that have been passed down for generations and I don't believe the word Eskimo does our heritage justice." - Blossom Twitchell from Kotzebue

if you read any of this and think of the word as harmless and not problematic, and can't even bother to use Inuit instead of it.... BIG oof!

 

 

6 hours ago, Lethal said:

I'm a Cherokee Native American and I don't find this offensive. Love his new album! People reaching as usual. If you're white sit this and your faux virtue signaling outrage out. 

except that its not even a word used for Cherokee Native Americans:

 

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The word Eskimo is an offensive term that has been used historically to describe the Inuit throughout their homeland, Inuit Nunangat, in the arctic regions of Alaska, Greenland and Canada, as well as the Yupik of Alaska and northeastern Russia, and the Inupiat of Alaska

 

[SapphireSky]

As I said no one gives a ****

[Armani?]

1 hour ago, imabadkid said:

AND his album is flopping. OOP. guess the Drake stimulus package didn't work this time.

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[ICLDXU4HS]

How are so many of y'all hearing about this for the first time. Genuinely surprised. 

 

I learned in 6th grade English class 20 years ago in Germany of all places that one should stick to the word Inuit. And that was an American English teacher too. 

[AlbumOfTheYear]

13 minutes ago, ICLDXU4HS said:

How are so many of y'all hearing about this for the first time. Genuinely surprised. 

 

I learned in 6th grade English class 20 years ago in Germany of all places that one should stick to the word Inuit. And that was an American English teacher too. 

People on ATRL hand waving and minimalizing racial slurs is sadly super unsurprising. Its almost always the same people, too

[AvadaKedavra]

I dont think this will damage his reputation. We live in Maga times. People dont care about slurs or identity politics anymore
His fanbase is mostly straight men
Things would be different in the 2010s

Edited November 26 by AvadaKedavra

[UhOh]

what a privileged life we lead that we have the time to manufacture issues like this

[Elusive Chanteuse]

10 minutes ago, UhOh said:

what a privileged life we lead that we have the time to manufacture issues like this

!!! Give me a break. 

[modeblock]

6 hours ago, SapphireSky said:

No one gives a ****

Yes, we do. The appropriate, accurate term is Inuit. I sincerely doubt Kendrick meant it in a derogatory fashion, but the reality is that it's harmful and antiquated language. 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Ngl I didn't know that was a slur till today. 
 

rap fans don't care tho. Like at all. it's not because of politics.  

[ChooseyLover]

This reminds me of the "gypsy" term. In the anglosphere, at least online, I see it's been considered offensive but here in my country there are groups who self identify as that. It's true that some use it in a derogatory and racist way but anything can be used with that intention, right? It's a bit confusing. Guess I'll avoid using that word too.

[Uncatena]

1 hour ago, UhOh said:

what a privileged life we lead that we have the time to manufacture issues like this

God I HATE a ***** who makes marginalization a competition. If you don't care about indigenous folks just ******* say so.

[StayFrosty]

9 hours ago, Uncatena said:

meant eater of raw meat, which connoted barbarism and violence. Although the word's exact etymology is unclear, mid-century anthropologists suggested that the word came from the Latin word excommunicati, meaning the excommunicated ones, because the native people of the Canadian Arctic were not Christian.

Most google searches says it means "one who laces snowshoes" 

9 hours ago, Uncatena said:

The term E**** is regarded by many as a derogative term because it is used to describe a very large group of people with different traits and languages.

You mean like Arabs or Latinos?

 

 

Yeah sorry, NONE of this is convincing. I do however get the part about not wanting to use a word that was used primarily by colonizers (if that is true)

[Elementary]

9 hours ago, ICLDXU4HS said:

How are so many of y'all hearing about this for the first time. Genuinely surprised. 

Not all of us are native English speakers. In other languages that word (and its translated variants) is used to refer to Inuit people and its context got "lost in translation" 

 

Not justifying it though.

[gettsleazy]

The left continuing to politicize **** like this over the real real concerns of homelessness, housing, food shortages, etc. is exactly why Trump won the election. 

[Soda Pop Queen]

22 hours ago, havewemet said:

Maybe it's because the conversation is more culturally relevant in Canada but we've known not to use it for a long time now.

oh so it's a regional thing? Kinda like the f.word here in the US is considered a slur but in the UK, it's not seen as a slur but rather a slang term for a cigarette. 

Edited November 27 by Soda Pop Queen

[poki]

Had no idea of this context.

Even Crash Bandicoot used this word and as far as I'm aware, it was never censored in any version of the game.

 

 

[poki]

8 hours ago, ChooseyLover said:

This reminds me of the "gypsy" term. In the anglosphere, at least online, I see it's been considered offensive but here in my country there are groups who self identify as that. It's true that some use it in a derogatory and racist way but anything can be used with that intention, right? It's a bit confusing. Guess I'll avoid using that word too.

Cher hasn't censored her very famous track that bares that word so I assume that is an example of context where it can still work.

[havewemet]

49 minutes ago, Soda Pop Queen said:

oh so it's a regional thing? Kinda like the f.word here in the US is considered a slur but in the UK, it's not seen as a slur but rather a slang term for a cigarette. 

I mean…the US and UK both have cigarettes and gay people. The Inuit people primarily live in Canada though Google is telling me some live in Alaska and Greenland also.

 

It's like how you'd say Indigenous people instead of Indian or native because now you know better.

Edited November 27 by havewemet

[Uncatena]

7 hours ago, StayFrosty said:

Yeah sorry, NONE of this is convincing.

its not my job to convince you of being a decent person, and if you don't care about indigenous voices you can just say so. 

[glitch]

3 hours ago, Soda Pop Queen said:

oh so it's a regional thing? Kinda like the f.word here in the US is considered a slur but in the UK, it's not seen as a slur but rather a slang term for a cigarette. 

Whilst the f slur is not the homophobic slur of choice in the UK, people are still aware of the offensive nature of the word outside of the context of cigarettes. You can also buy these in most UK supermarkets but again people wouldn't use the word outside of this context

 

[Soda Pop Queen]

21 minutes ago, glitch said:

Whilst the f slur is not the homophobic slur of choice in the UK, people are still aware of the offensive nature of the word outside of the context of cigarettes. You can also buy these in most UK supermarkets but again people wouldn't use the word outside of this context

 

wtf  why does the UK have several different usages of the word there?

[ChooseyLover]

4 hours ago, poki said:

Cher hasn't censored her very famous track that bares that word so I assume that is an example of context where it can still work.

Gaga, Hilary Duff, Shakira and probably a long etcetera neither, so yeah... 

[Marianah Adkins]

Policing language is literally the gateway to the redpill  

[Bethenny Frankel]

second album in a row with a slur? interesting...