Netflix seeking "major, multigenerational, global artist" for big '25 concert special

[Revolution]

pick my fave

[popmusicisdead]

i know the perfect candidate 

 

[Phaunzie]

4 hours ago, LittleCupid said:

 

Time for Valeria to hit the scene again.

The only right answer. Ariana who, Rihanna what, Gaga where. Only the one and only Valeria. 

[PMM]

it's mariah 

[Cbreezy]

11 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

Are you trying to tell me Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga and Bruno mars would be able to bring in more viewers than Taylor mother-f..ing Swift, the owner of the biggest tour of all time, who has millions of people watching her every damn show via a terrible tiktok stream? This surely can't be right.......

I knew ish like this was coming lol. 

 

Taylor is a huge act, with a huge base, but she is NOT a) cross-generational, b) cross-cultural, nor c) a great, electrifying performer. She just isn't.

 

Her pull and superpowers lay elsewhere, but not across those checkpoints. 

 

I hold no ill will towards her, but those are objective facts. 

 

Now, if Netflix purely wants numbers with no actual nuance, then of course, she's a huge star (the biggest of right now) and of course makes for the right pick.

 

But I do not for a single second think they are going to get the social media, "stop, look, listen" discourse that some of y'all think. You'd be surprised what some of these streamers want beyond numbers. There is a cultural, social penetration they are angling for and I don't see Taylor hitting that mark. Case in point her Eras Tour movie on Disney+. For as many people who tangibly saw it, the buzz around the movie and her in general always feels "contained" within the large subsect who worship at her altar. It rarely seeds into the other pop-culture facing spaces I occupy, which I always find...telling.

 

As an objective party, she has a HUGE fanbase but she is overindexed among a very "particular/specific" (and admittedly large) demographic. Her reach does not span cross-cultural barriers (in the way a peak Britney or peak Xtina managed and even a present Gaga has going on a lil bit. I said...a lil bit).

 

For instance, as a POC, I can tell you for free that not a single soul I know is even aware of the Taylor hoopla, song names, album eras, etc. And these are people in the mix of pop culture. In me living and breathing stan culture, it's always fascinating to me, but it's educational in helping me clock that some artists really are a "thing" to the people they are a "thing" to and totally not on the radar of others. Then there are some acts who skilfully manage to be all things to everyone (beyond just numbers) and I'd honestly say that "tier" / format of megastar is reserved for the MJs and Beyonces. 

[Johnny Jacobs]

26 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

This would have been a cute try at it ,10 years ago, hun. 

Girl it was a joke stop being so bitter. 

 

I actually went to her concert in Milan and i liked it 

[smartalek22]

Ava max 

[Princess Aurora]

Rihanna for sure

[DonnaSpring]

5 hours ago, Miss Anthropocene said:

This opportunity would be better suited  for the newer girls like Olivia Chappell Sabrina

No one would watch 

[DonnaSpring]

Madonna or miley

[Smarticle]

Wtf is a Puck News

 

[satellites.™]

3 hours ago, LatinFreak said:

Shakira. Live from Mexico City. Just sounds right for Netflix 

This is perfect too, especially since it could help sell her tour.

[Jay07]

1 hour ago, Badgalbriel said:

Are you trying to tell me Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga and Bruno mars would be able to bring in more viewers than Taylor mother-f..ing Swift, the owner of the biggest tour of all time, who has millions of people watching her every damn show via a terrible tiktok stream? This surely can't be right.......

The posting specifically says "puts on a great show" sweetie. 

[POPTART]

The result:

 

[Qmhp]

Adele or Rihanna

[Shelter]

Prob looking for Adele. 

[Joesuxx]

For the last few weeks I keep seeing whispers of an Adele concert movie and a few dates in london. This could measure up. Lana's just announced live shows and she's yet to do a concert special. 

[Erotic]

Book that stage FIRO 

[Badgalbriel]

20 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

The posting specifically says "puts on a great show" sweetie. 

That's exactly what the performer of the biggest tour of all of human history to the biggest tour crowd of all time does. 

[Jay07]

26 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

That's exactly what the performer of the biggest tour of all of human history to the biggest tour crowd of all time does. 

Repeating biggest over and over doesn't really answer the requirement of "putting on a great show" though does it? 

 

Also, "all of human history"  oh babe you're so funny.

Edited Monday at 04:39 PM by Jay07

[Cbreezy]

1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

I knew ish like this was coming lol. 

 

Taylor is a huge act, with a huge base, but she is NOT a) cross-generational, b) cross-cultural, nor c) a great, electrifying performer. She just isn't.

 

Her pull and superpowers lay elsewhere, but not across those checkpoints. 

 

I hold no ill will towards her, but those are objective facts. 

 

Now, if Netflix purely wants numbers with no actual nuance, then of course, she's a huge star (the biggest of right now) and of course makes for the right pick.

 

But I do not for a single second think they are going to get the social media, "stop, look, listen" discourse that some of y'all think. You'd be surprised what some of these streamers want beyond numbers. There is a cultural, social penetration they are angling for and I don't see Taylor hitting that mark. Case in point her Eras Tour movie on Disney+. For as many people who tangibly saw it, the buzz around the movie and her in general always feels "contained" within the large subsect who worship at her altar. It rarely seeds into the other pop-culture facing spaces I occupy, which I always find...telling.

 

As an objective party, she has a HUGE fanbase but she is overindexed among a very "particular/specific" (and admittedly large) demographic. Her reach does not span cross-cultural barriers (in the way a peak Britney or peak Xtina managed and even a present Gaga has going on a lil bit. I said...a lil bit).

 

For instance, as a POC, I can tell you for free that not a single soul I know is even aware of the Taylor hoopla, song names, album eras, etc. And these are people in the mix of pop culture. In me living and breathing stan culture, it's always fascinating to me, but it's educational in helping me clock that some artists really are a "thing" to the people they are a "thing" to and totally not on the radar of others. Then there are some acts who skilfully manage to be all things to everyone (beyond just numbers) and I'd honestly say that "tier" / format of megastar is reserved for the MJs and Beyonces. 

Not the downvotes lol. It figures. 

 

I literally have no issue with Taylor, but I've clocked that her stans tend to be so tunnel-visioned to ever see or properly digest any takes that aren't Taylor-worship. 

 

It's like, I love Adele but will be the first to say that there are ways she'd be a great pick for this and definite ways that she wouldn't. It's called...objectivity lol. 

 

In general, I think the Swifties are in for the rudest awakening when their girl finally headlines the Super Bowl. To date, most of her fanfare/praise about live performances is in the realm of her tours that her fans pay money to go and see by choice/allegiance.

 

It's gonna be interesting to see how she stacks up against her peers as a performer when Halftime Shows can be lined up side by side.

 

Some of y'all are scoffing at my take, but IMO no amount of sales or popularity will matter nor factor when it comes to besting the performances from the likes of Bey, Gaga, etc when you have an audience comprised of the GP.

Edited Monday at 04:40 PM by Cbreezy

[Axolotl]

1 hour ago, Cbreezy said:

I knew ish like this was coming lol. 

 

Taylor is a huge act, with a huge base, but she is NOT a) cross-generational, b) cross-cultural, nor c) a great, electrifying performer. She just isn't.

 

Her pull and superpowers lay elsewhere, but not across those checkpoints. 

 

I hold no ill will towards her, but those are objective facts. 

 

Now, if Netflix purely wants numbers with no actual nuance, then of course, she's a huge star (the biggest of right now) and of course makes for the right pick.

 

But I do not for a single second think they are going to get the social media, "stop, look, listen" discourse that some of y'all think. You'd be surprised what some of these streamers want beyond numbers. There is a cultural, social penetration they are angling for and I don't see Taylor hitting that mark. Case in point her Eras Tour movie on Disney+. For as many people who tangibly saw it, the buzz around the movie and her in general always feels "contained" within the large subsect who worship at her altar. It rarely seeds into the other pop-culture facing spaces I occupy, which I always find...telling.

 

As an objective party, she has a HUGE fanbase but she is overindexed among a very "particular/specific" (and admittedly large) demographic. Her reach does not span cross-cultural barriers (in the way a peak Britney or peak Xtina managed and even a present Gaga has going on a lil bit. I said...a lil bit).

 

For instance, as a POC, I can tell you for free that not a single soul I know is even aware of the Taylor hoopla, song names, album eras, etc. And these are people in the mix of pop culture. In me living and breathing stan culture, it's always fascinating to me, but it's educational in helping me clock that some artists really are a "thing" to the people they are a "thing" to and totally not on the radar of others. Then there are some acts who skilfully manage to be all things to everyone (beyond just numbers) and I'd honestly say that "tier" / format of megastar is reserved for the MJs and Beyonces. 

As a POC myself, safe to say you don't speak for all of us.

[Katamari]

It's going to be Rita Ora and yall know it deep down 

[Cbreezy]

2 minutes ago, Axolotl said:

As a POC myself, safe to say you don't speak for all of us.

Lol. I also knew this was coming. 

 

You are really peddling the idea that "Taylor Swift" is a thing (or much of a thing) to...POCs?

 

Please be serious. 

 

I am not saying she doesn't have POC fans. Of course she does. But culturally and en masse "Taylor Swift" factually isn't a thing in POC circles. We (as a culture) are not talking about her on BET, The Breakfast Club, Black Twitter, Black Tik Tok, or in Urban spaces in any way.

 

By contrast, the likes of MJ and Bey actually "mean" something in their lanes and...crucially... beyond. The masses (Swifies included) will be tuning in to Bey's Halftime on Christmas, but it wouldn't be the same the other way around. 

 

This essentially supports my point that Taylor's popularity is over-indexed in a particular lane...which, in just being actual and factual, is Caucasian America (and the lanes that inspires worldwide). As a Caucasian American woman, that is both ok, literally makes sense, and is totally on-brand. 

 

Where I struggle a bit with the hoopla around TS is how it is somehow conflated that as her being "a great performer" or being "better" than some of her peers. 

 

Her numbers are super duper impressive, but they do not paint the entirety of the picture.

[Meev]

I hope it's not Taylor as Netflix hasn't exactly been nice to her. Taylor should stay with Disney Plus, a platform that actually supports her.