Christina Aguilera total career tour gross only $116 million...Can you believe that.

[leyaris11]

8 minutes ago, Xpress2019 said:

There are a few factors to consider though such as number of tour dates. Miss Aguilera is rich and happy. She is not worried about this like you seem to be. Poor soul. 

I do respect a nice and straight up conversation here sis... And you were right, the only decent and huge tour of her is B2B tour which grossed almost 50m. And even in her prime (Stripped album, she was everywhere) and she is touring with Justin Timberlake and that Justified n Stripped tour seem huge but it's only grossed $30 million. 

 

And yall should stop with narrative "who care, she is rich and happy", this is a pop culture forum and we discussed all thing about pop girls.

 

13 minutes ago, Purple Land said:

Well, considering she had 2 proper tours in her whole career with few dates each and that they happened between 2003-2007 when touring was a much less successful business and ticket prices were nothing like today, it's easy to understand...

She does have 6 tours, and I don't know what you mean "proper tour"??? Who fault when she has cancel or shorten the tour due to no demand? And there are so many tours grossing over $100 million between 2003-2007. 

[ericcartman]

Yikes I had to double check. Even Britney is at only 450m total. I guess only Beyonce and Pink became huge touring forces from that group. Just goes to show that touring really exploded in the 10s so only the acts who lasted to that decade are huge touring forces.

[Purple Land]

20 minutes ago, leyaris11 said:

I do respect a nice and straight up conversation here sis... And you were right, the only decent and huge tour of her is B2B tour which grossed almost 50m. And even in her prime (Stripped album, she was everywhere) and she is touring with Justin Timberlake and that Justified n Stripped tour seem huge but it's only grossed $30 million. 

 

And yall should stop with narrative "who care, she is rich and happy", this is a pop culture forum and we discussed all thing about pop girls.

 

She does have 6 tours, and I don't know what you mean "proper tour"??? Who fault when she has cancel or shorten the tour due to no demand? And there are so many tours grossing over $100 million between 2003-2007. 

well, her only major tours supporting an album were the Stripped/Justified tour and the Back to Basics tour (which mind you was the highest grossing tour by a female act that year). if you wanna consider the X european tour with 18 dates also, fine I guess. (edit: ok I forgot about the Liberation tour.)

 

and it was simply NOT that easy to gross 100m+ back in the day. Beyoncé's numbers (which is an undeniably tour force) in this same time period were $3.6M (10 dates) with DIL tour and $90M (96 dates) with the B'Day Tour. 

 

it'll never cease to amaze me what makes people deliberately open a thread like this, pathetic behavior

Edited 11 hours ago by Purple Land

[TipToe]

Is this number adjusted for inflation? Or the pure number? Cause during her prime touring market was more modest for younger popstars, the veterans were the ones doing big numbers.

[Blue Jeans]

She has had such a strange career. A 4 year break after Back to basics coming back with a totally different sound. Genre switching. Not many albums. Barely any touring. Still an icon. She could have a big comeback if she really wanted to.

[Saintlor]

An ATRLer on $15 an hour claiming 116 million dollars is a flop amount of money

 

[l3disko]

Legend X living in luxury while her haters live in borderline poverty talking about how much of a 'flop' she is for making 116 million. 

[Trash]

She stopped touring properly way before it blew up. And while she's been more active in the last few years, it'll take a while for her to fully take advantage of her legacy status, she has the hits, she's done okay in vegas, she should keep up festival appearances and such and have a nice hits tour to build back a chore fanbase.

[popmusicisdead]

she only had 1 major solo tour during her prime and didn't tour for a whole decade after that. this isn't surprising at all 

[mathekr]

3 hours ago, Robyn. said:

Most girls have grossed that with one tour though...

 

2 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

Like one user said above, most girl grossed over $100 million with that one tour and Xtina can't even achieved that in her prime.  The bar is in hell for ms Aguilera here. 

Sure, but during her prime touring money is not what it is today. Like the Back to Basics tour was the top female tour grossing of that year and it only did around $50M.

Edited 9 hours ago by mathekr

[Oktober Knight]

Yes. I actually can believe that.

 

And I'm not even joking.

[BrokenMachine]

3 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

I am so in shocked right now...

I know she is not a touring force but with a big name like her, it should be at least $500mil. 

I guess the demand is just not there. 

 

2 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

Like one user said above, most girl grossed over $100 million with that one tour and Xtina can't even achieved that in her prime.  The bar is in hell for ms Aguilera here. 

 

2 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

 

 

Most girl grossed over $100 million with one tour and Xtina can't even achieved that in her prime.   The bar is in hell for ms Aguilera here. 

We got it the first time, dear OXH

 

Edited 9 hours ago by BrokenMachine

[BrokenMachine]

4 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

I know she is not a touring force but with a big name like her, it should be at least $500mil. 

But to give you an answer. If you look at her reported dates, it gives the outstanding amount of... 172 shows... from her whole career. How do you want her to gross $500M from only 172 shows? 172 shows is kinda the standard from just ONE tour, and yet Xtina's tours are short and unreported. 116M coming from 172 shows seems kinda fine 

[Bradphord]

Does this include the decade she did NOT tour?

 

You're so "in shocked" you might have left out of crucial reasons here and there.

[dawnettakins]

Well, people would like to keep their hearing, so it makes sense! 

[LegaMyth]

She's done much better than my broke ass

[Oziee]

1 hour ago, Saintlor said:

An ATRLer on $15 an hour claiming 116 million dollars is a flop amount of money

 

That's what I exactly thought.

[leyaris11]

3 hours ago, Purple Land said:

well, her only major tours supporting an album were the Stripped/Justified tour and the Back to Basics tour (which mind you was the highest grossing tour by a female act that year). if you wanna consider the X european tour with 18 dates also, fine I guess. (edit: ok I forgot about the Liberation tour.)

 

and it was simply NOT that easy to gross 100m+ back in the day. Beyoncé's numbers (which is an undeniably tour force) in this same time period were $3.6M (10 dates) with DIL tour and $90M (96 dates) with the B'Day Tour. 

 

it'll never cease to amaze me what makes people deliberately open a thread like this, pathetic behavior

 

1 hour ago, mathekr said:

 

Sure, but during her prime touring money is not what it is today. Like the Back to Basics tour was the top female tour grossing of that year and it only did around $50M.

Sure Beyonce can't pass a 100m back in the day but her total touring gross almost 1 billion, compare to 116m of Xtina. I think both of you get the point of this thread. 

 

1 hour ago, BrokenMachine said:

But to give you an answer. If you look at her reported dates, it gives the outstanding amount of... 172 shows... from her whole career. How do you want her to gross $500M from only 172 shows? 172 shows is kinda the standard from just ONE tour, and yet Xtina's tours are short and unreported. 116M coming from 172 shows seems kinda fine 

Madonna's Confession tour of that same year gross $195 million from 60 shows.   And what I mean she should have more and longer tours and selling more tickets when she consider the it girl back in the day, next to Britney. 

[BrokenMachine]

7 minutes ago, leyaris11 said:

Madonna's Confession tour of that same year gross $195 million from 60 shows.   And what I mean she should have more and longer tours and selling more tickets when she consider the it girl back in the day, next to Britney. 

 

5 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

I know she is not a touring force

So you recognize she's not a touring force and you're comparing her to Madonna? I'll just say: worms for brains 

[katykater]

It's because she hasn't toured recently.

 

The ticket prices were already going up much faster than inflation a decade ago and it went up even more recently.

 

It clearly favours the most recent tours.

 

9 hours ago, leyaris11 said:

She does have 6 tours, and I don't know what you mean "proper tour"??? Who fault when she has cancel or shorten the tour due to no demand? And there are so many tours grossing over $100 million between 2003-2007. 

A "proper tour" is touring arenas or bigger venues in at least North America and Western Europe.

 

The class society in the US and getting a lot of income without the government deducing social security, universal healthcare,... fees makes prices of everything in the US wild.

• 200 dollar ticket isn't much when you are paying 2k, 3k, 4k,... dollar monthly rent for 1 bedroom apartment.
• 100 euro ticket is much when you can rent a whole house in a city for less than a thousand euro per month. According to Google, the cheapest apartments for expats is 400 euro per month in a city where Olivia sold 42k tickets.

There is a lot of room for ticket prices in the US to be bumped over 500, 600, 800,... dollar. If 100 euro is a quarter of 400 euro. A quarter of 2k dollar is 500 dollar, a quarter of 3k dollar is 750 dollar and a quarter of 4k dollar is 1000 dollar. Americans experience the value of money differently.

 

The US provides high touring gross per ticket sold and makes it easy to get a high touring gross.

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/30356/cost-of-concert-tickets-in-us-and-europe/

 

Europe provides a hedge/insurance against the American GP always want newer shinier toys and will ditch the old ones. Artists and entire genres have always been pushed into the sea. It is up to the European audiences to decide whether an artist or genre is allowed to stay alive for more than 10 years since the breakthrough with mainstream GP. Electronic music, heavy metal,... have been kicked into the sea, lived for decades in Europe and suddenly it invaded the US.

 

If an artist/genre doesn't like the risk of being cancelled by the American GP, getting established in Europe is important.

Edited 1 hour ago by katykater