visions Posted November 16 Posted November 16 11 minutes ago, Domination said: Such a bad faith interpretation of what I posted it's almost laughable. At least try to have some intellectual dignity. You're in a thread made by a Palestinian person telling people to show more kindness to the people who are currently committing a genocide to their people. An ounce of kindness to Zionists is too much. You asking me to have intellectual dignity is a joke when it's coming from someone with seemingly NO morals whatsoever. 13
byzantium Posted November 16 Posted November 16 37 minutes ago, NEX said: ATRL has truly turned anti-Semitic. If you think it's anti-Semitic to oppose genocide, it makes me question what you think the Jewish faith is about. 12 2
visions Posted November 16 Posted November 16 4 minutes ago, Bartender said: It's anti israel not anti semitic don't get it twisted This very simple distinction kicks their ass every damn time They'll still call people anti-semitic when you criticise Israel and its supporters though because they have no real basis for any of their arguments. Anti-semitism is real, disgusting, and happens even in today's world way too much. However, equating anti-Israel comments with being anti-semitic just detracts from the actual anti-semitism that occurs. 2
beautiful player Posted November 16 Posted November 16 10 minutes ago, byzantium said: If you think it's anti-Semitic to oppose genocide, it makes me question what you think the Jewish faith is about. You don't think "Kill all Israelis!" is a call for genocide itself?
Domination Posted November 16 Posted November 16 (edited) 24 minutes ago, visions said: You're in a thread made by a Palestinian person telling people to show more kindness to the people who are currently committing a genocide to their people. An ounce of kindness to Zionists is too much. You asking me to have intellectual dignity is a joke when it's coming from someone with seemingly NO morals whatsoever. No one asked you to "show kindness", please stop putting words in my mouth. I am pro-Palestinian liberation so not sure what morals you're commenting on. Y'all don't need to act a mess, saying "death to all of them", to advocate for Palestine. There are several members on this forum who are ardent critics of Israel and engage in discussion about the genocide in Gaza regularly who don't have this problem. Take notes from them! Edited November 16 by Domination 1
Daddy Posted November 16 Posted November 16 Zionists look extra punchable these days. Always so loud and always talking about raping and killing people, which is very weird to me. They are truly Americans cosplaying in the Middle East.
heckinglovato Posted November 16 Author Posted November 16 Changed the title from "Israelis" to "Zionists" in case the former offends anyone Changed "displaying" to "seemingly displaying" in case it can be interpreted differently Changed acts of "violence/racism" to "hate" in case the former is too strong-worded Hope this helps some people sleep at night! 1
Communion Posted November 16 Posted November 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, NEX said: Ok, but where's the same energy for all other crimes committed by all other ethnicities? The selective targeting is the issue here 1) Most ATRL users are from nations aligned with the Israeli apartheid regime and whose nations financially support the Israeli genocide of Palestinians. Thus the issue of Israeli nationalism and violent, pro-nationalist crime that Israelis commit when outside of Israel and its borders will also draw focus and attention. Especially as the genocide is ongoing. No one is making some scene out of Jewish Americans or Jewish Brits having speeding tickets. The issue is mass coordinated violence by Israeli citizens advocating Israeli nationalism when in other nations towards anyone expressing sympathy for the Palestinian victims of their genocide, ie: people being threatened by Israeli tourists for wearing a keffiyeh out in public, Israeli hooligan tourists destroying people's private poprerty and vandalizing buildings because the owner put up a Palestinian flag. If you could find another nation and army recently guilty of slaughtering as many as 400,000 people, with their actions financially supported by countries who host most of ATRL's user base, then sure, one would expect there should be some discussion of those issues. Feel free to share if you could find something with that criteria! 2) Bit odd to now do a "you can't talk about x if you don't talk about y exactly how I want!!" framing and social justice framing when your forum presence in this section is largely defined by being a regressive reactionary coddling the right, hating trans people, and posting inane **** like the below: On 11/15/2024 at 3:15 PM, NEX said: I've been saying this for a while, but progressives lost their minds both with the wildness of their ideas/beliefs about social issues and especially with their approach towards how they aim to achieve their goals. It's either you 100% agree with all of their madness or you are a disgusting human being that needs to be permanently shut down and made fun of. Edited November 16 by Communion 2
Communion Posted November 16 Posted November 16 2 hours ago, Communion said: Is there a country called Grand Arabia where in all global Arabs are citizens of it as a nation state? If not, odd to conflate a national identity like Israeli with anything that is an ethnicity. Despite Israel's desire to claim to represent the global Jewish population, it does not. Odd your mind immediately went to Arabs as an ethnic group and not, say, the logical equivalent of the citizens of Saudi Arabia and if people negatively criticize their bad behavior. Some of you would be crying over marginalizing German nationalism during WWII. Not sure why you deleted your reply to this @VOSS asking me if I support nationalism and violence by Arab nations but I guess it's for the better. https://atrl.net/search/?&q=ksa&quick=1&author=VOSS&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy = 0 Results https://atrl.net/search/?&q=arabia&quick=1&author=VOSS&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy = 0 Results https://atrl.net/search/?&q=saudi&quick=1&author=VOSS&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy = 1 Result to... attack the UN? What a weird little combination of incoherent and reactionary politics.
byzantium Posted November 16 Posted November 16 2 hours ago, beautiful player said: You don't think "Kill all Israelis!" is a call for genocide itself? I dare you to find me that quote.
beautiful player Posted November 16 Posted November 16 27 minutes ago, byzantium said: I dare you to find me that quote. Here you go, hun. You cannot pick-and-choose when genocide is bad. It's bad, period. 5 hours ago, Bartender said: 4 hours ago, Vixen Eyes said: they really are going on tour then. Re: DEATH to AOLL of them 3 hours ago, polygon said: Death to all of them 5
Vixen Eyes Posted November 16 Posted November 16 39 minutes ago, beautiful player said: Here you go, hun. You cannot pick-and-choose when genocide is bad. It's bad, period. i meant death to all of the ones attacking other people. not all Israelis are doing that.
polygon Posted November 17 Posted November 17 2 hours ago, beautiful player said: Here you go, hun. You cannot pick-and-choose when genocide is bad. It's bad, period. You can't be for real girl Look around, read some history books Death to all of them period
byzantium Posted November 17 Posted November 17 3 hours ago, beautiful player said: You cannot pick-and-choose when genocide is bad. It's bad, period. So you agree, what Israelis are doing is bad. Great. Glad we are on the same page.
TeemoR Posted November 17 Posted November 17 19 hours ago, LegaMyth said: Unfortunately, EVERY group of people have good people and f****d people. all lives matter teas
LegaMyth Posted November 17 Posted November 17 1 hour ago, TeemoR said: all lives matter teas Your math is f****d.
awesomepossum Posted November 17 Posted November 17 On 11/16/2024 at 1:37 PM, LegaMyth said: Not all Jewish people support the war. There is more devastation in Sudan, which is being funded by Middle Eastern Muslims. Where is the outrage? well you just answered your own question. the us isn't funding the belligerents in the sudanese civil war. the biden administration has authorized sanctions against countries that support belligerents in the sudanese civil war, and has provided aid to sudanese civilians. that's why no one in america is protesting about it. do you think that americans go protest against israel just to express their opinion? no, it's to try and get the biden administration to stop funding israel's genocide. stop trying to deflect away from israel's genocide with hasbara talking points.
Luckitty Posted November 18 Posted November 18 like i said before, they're emboldened because all the western governments and mainstream media protects them they have faced 0 consequences after attacking 8 countries, committing genocides, ethnic cleansings, apartheid etc, in fact the opposite happened and they were supported by all the powerful governments in the world & the mainstream media in the west portrayed them as the victims instead of the perpetrators they're doing whatever they want because the world has allowed them to do so for the last 76 years 1 1
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