base talk Will Taylor ever flop like Gaga and Katy?

[Klein]

47 minutes ago, kimberly said:

sure, but I meant more from a timing perspective. if she went the Rihanna route, say, and took a few years off, then extended it to have a kid, then extended it even more to grow her family more, etc. and somehow went 7-8 years without any album released. if her values or priorities changed somehow. I could see the no-promo album drops, but it's also entirely possible that she decides to process and cherish things herself before announcing to the entire world. as you said, motherhood can really change people and I'm sure it would also change how Taylor, as a business, operates.

 

I don't really see this working for Taylor, but we're not her, so we'll never truly know. she might not even be interested in motherhood. so we have to make up a lot of conditional statements to even fabricate a scenario where she might have a commercial collapse.

 

OT: no.

Oh ok got it. I agree that there's really no way to know how it would turn out for her career. I'd place my bet on she wouldn't be affected much by a long break, because I think the hype to see what all this inspired musically would be through the roof, especially if she left on a high note. 

[Arrows]

Yes, in the year 2156

[Mariano]

Nobody will ever flop like Katy Perry. OP and other kats need to accept it and stop throwing their fav under the bus  

 

Using y'all own fav to drag other artists by comparing them to her is so ridiculous and such a self own. I can see why Katy hates y'all maybe she really made 143 as payback for all the short hair bullying she had to endure from her own insecure stans. 

[longjohn9898]

Taylor never takes enough risk to flop. Her brand is built on monotony, and she's built a loyal fanbase that will purchase 1839747274732 variations of the same song, alongside other songs on the same album that sound exactly the same, compiled on an album that very likely sounds very similar to the last. Her fans will buy what she puts out regardless because the ones that idolize her value consistency, even if that consistency is rooted in safe mediocrity and giving her fans exactly what they want. 

[Klein]

10 minutes ago, longjohn9898 said:

Taylor never takes enough risk to flop. Her brand is built on monotony, and she's built a loyal fanbase that will purchase 1839747274732 variations of the same song, alongside other songs on the same album that sound exactly the same, compiled on an album that very likely sounds very similar to the last. Her fans will buy what she puts out regardless because the ones that idolize her value consistency, even if that consistency is rooted in safe mediocrity and giving her fans exactly what they want. 

This level of pressed-ness would be remotely funny if the Katy and Gaga songs we're talking about weren't a cosplay of their former successful selves. 

[Badgalbriel]

It might happen 40 years from now. Single-wise, I can see her flopping hard 3 or 4 albums from now. But album-wise, she'll be doing just fine for a very long time. 

[Imagine Dragon]

At this point, she is probably bound for a Mylène Farmer career trajectory - her releases will always have a big interest.

[Princess Aurora]

Not for the moment.

[єѕℓαм]

I could see her debuting #28 it's not really considered a flop 

but like Katy that's not gonna happen lmao

[theREALslimSHADY]

In the next era.. no. After that, depends on the next era. But seems highly unlikely until 2030s

[Scandalous]

2 hours ago, Badgalbriel said:

It might happen 40 years from now. Single-wise, I can see her flopping hard 3 or 4 albums from now. But album-wise, she'll be doing just fine for a very long time. 

yeah especially if she keeps the trend of not releasing lead singles before the album

 

Taylor is such a unique case though, it's hard to truly predict how she'll be doing over the next few decades. the only other huge popstars in our lifetime that we can really compare her to are Madonna and Beyonce but she's in a whole different league above them in terms of album sales. she has a uniquely dedicated fanbase who care about her full albums rather than just the GP singles like most popstars, and she's done a great job of not only growing with her fans but appealing to newer audiences too.

the thing that separates her is that her appeal is more about her writing than the music itself which keeps her fans engaged and interested. she will obviously underperform eventually (i mean Lover was considered an underperformance and Evermore numbers were kinda weak) and she'll reach legacy act status with big first week sales but i can't see her truly tanking anytime soon

[By the Water]

I'm dying at people implying Gaga and Katy flopped because they took risks 

[Blue.]

It would be logical to eventually happen, but seeing all those little swifties in their parents TikToks she is probably safe until TS20 at the very least.

[no_better]

I don't think so, because when she does at least she's got the masterful pen that conceived the likes of folklore and evermore to rely on bringing her back

[Kill Me]

9 minutes ago, By the Water said:

I'm dying at people implying Gaga and Katy flopped because they took risks 

I'm sure Gaga took a very big risk by releasing a solo single that is not propped up by anyone else.

Nothing Taylor has ever done comes close to being as risky as that, I fear.

[KillingYourCareer]

8 hours ago, SLUTTVFTV said:

maybe around TS29

So in 5 years max

[Calvin]

8 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said:

So in 5 years max

11 studio albums in 18 years. 
Rest 18 in 5 years, what kind of maths is this?

[YellowRibbon]

It's her choice atp, she can choose to take a (long and deserved) break or keep releasing music every two/three years. I think the later is more likely, and in that scenario, Swifties are just not dropping her. Catering towards young women is a winning formula because most of them will eventually become mothers and form families, effectively raising their kids listening to Taylor's music. The amount of little Swifties that you can find in TikTok and other social media is insane, so she's most likely secured a younger demographic for another decade or so.

[SoundsandSongs]

Honestly no, because she already has 10+ successful eras and is a certified legend with a huge and loyal fanbase. Even if her numbers start dropping significantly, flopping after 10+ albums is very different to flopping after 2-3 albums in the case of Katy and Gaga.

 

Taylor pretty much wont leave the top 10 of spotify artists chart this decade.

[longjohn9898]

5 hours ago, Klein said:

This level of pressed-ness would be remotely funny if the Katy and Gaga songs we're talking about weren't a cosplay of their former successful selves. 

trying to sound educated using the word cosplay but not addressing my actual point that Taylor sounds virtually the same in every song, every version, and every album for the last 5 albums is hilarious and NOT cosplay but just recycled mediocrity

[Klein]

6 minutes ago, longjohn9898 said:

trying to sound educated using the word cosplay but not addressing my actual point that Taylor sounds virtually the same in every song, every version, and every album for the last 5 albums is hilarious and NOT cosplay but just recycled mediocrity

The word cosplay is supposed to make you sound educated (which I am btw, my PhD says thank you)? English is not my language but that seemed like a common word. 

 

I don't see the point of arguing with that "actual point" because if you want to say that songs like False God, cardigan, ivy, Would've Could've Should've and I Can Do It With a Broken Heart all sound the same, maybe the "actual point" would be that you have an hearing deficit. But you do not actually care or listen to the albums and just went with whatever you came up with to troll a little because you're bored and triggered by an artist you don't like being successful. Have fun with that.  

[Outlaws]

14 hours ago, Roberto said:

No success is eternal. It's not happening soon tho.

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[Lorenzo22]

no tbh

[Shimenawa]

I don't think so. Taylor's fanbase is just too big

[terrorblade]

to BOMB like katy she'd have to have 3 back to back disastrous releases (witness>smile>143) i don't think she's stupid enough to let that happen