news Democrat strategists: Celebrity political endorsements are damaging (per The Hill)

[Dancehall Queen]

Girl, what year is it 

[gab00]

Notice they did mention Beyonce's, Pinks and Gaga's endorsement. But not Katy's.

 

It's only a problem if the endorsement comes from an A-lister.

[Arthoe]

2 hours ago, Saintlor said:

But people will relate to millionaire podcasters telling them to vote trump

NOBODY seems to take this into the equation:

 

Swing voters are NOT a thing in the USA. People do not change poltical affiliation, despite the concept of "swing states". Despite being bombareded online and in the media of people saying "I've been a livelong XXX but now I'm voting XXX", this is an absolutely insignificant minority of voters that in the end do not make a difference. People are infinitely more likely to become a non-voter than they are to vote for an opposing party (which is also why the boohoo crying of "America has become so divided" is laughable, it always has been incredibly divided by design). 

 

What IS making a difference is how each candidate is activating their voter base. The movement between voter and non-voter is way more important to win an election in America, especially the swing states. So we are talking about two completely different audiences that want to be catered to.

 

The Republican-centric audience WANTS millionaire endorsements, the WANT shady business people, shills, crooks. They are willing to swallow ANY turd that the establishment serves them, because the baseline of their ideology is to fall in line and be submissive to a strongman. 

 

A Democrat-centric audience does NOT want millionaire endorsements, they seem to respond to actual good policy and politicians that are faithful to their principles and not swayed by big money. They want plans, feasible ideas and to not have to struggle to survive or be constantly screamed at. And this is something that the Democratic party has continuously failed to do since the Obama administration, they have continuously deactivated their own voter base by either making incredibly unpopular policy choices the focal point of their campaigns (Clinton, Harris) OR by making progressive promises and eventually breaking them (Biden). Especially the Harris campaign made the critical flaw to exclude civil rights from their entire campaign, and internally advised staffers and campaigners to belittle citizens that voiced fear about being at the receiving end of being hate-crimed. 

 

The things that are working for Republicans do not automatically translate to the Democrats and time and time has shown again, that when the Democrats are trying to parrot what the Republicans are doing, all they do is alienate their current voter base while winning nobody at the same time (because even the most moderate Republican would still prefer to vote for a Republican, no matter how much of an imbecile they are). 

Edited November 10 by Arthoe

[Bloo]

This has been obvious for a long time. If celebrity endorsements were that helpful then Republicans would never win elections because the Democrats have a monopoly on A-list celebrities. 

[RoyalT]

I don't think that it has much to do with the wealth of the celebraties, but with their connection to reality.

People often tend to make celebrities some "bigger than life" figures, and while respecting them (well some of them) in the specific fields they are engaged with, they just feel separate from reality.

People like Elon and Trump, though billionaires, somehow feel more accessible 

[Rep2000]

2 hours ago, byzantium said:

But ATRL should continue to request that A list celebrities endorse their candidates to confirm that they are on the good side.  Virtue singling is more important than winning. 

What ATRL loves more is hating on celebs with any reason at all. Virtue signaling is just the cherry on top so ATRL could justify the hates, or the obsession with demanding celebs to practically *perform* their political supports.

Edited November 10 by Rep2000

[Trent W]

God I really don't know ig someone is that stupid to decide their vote based in  a celebrity endorsement

 

It probably has never worked.

 

You have to be really dumb uf a celeb influences your vote.

 

Seeing Cardi B on stage was peak embarrassment tho, I can see how republicans used that to point out how bad of an idea it was

[Trent W]

Also the main problem of Dems is they fight and cancel each other all the time

 

Republicans are more united

 

Dems are consumed by left vs center arguments 

[shyboi]

2 hours ago, Taylena said:

And yet, every election year, liberals will be online calling certain celebrities n*zis if they don't endorse the Democrat candidate. 

 

the way you were right all along sis, ATRL owes you an apology tbh 

[harwee]

But endorsements from billionaires and incels is perfectly fine it seems.

 

 

Obama and Biden had the biggest celebrity endorsements too. Its not that cut and dry.

[Doctor Dick]

3 hours ago, Achilles. said:

Of course. Half of the reason they have so much resentment of celebrities is because they desperately that kind of cultural relevance for themselves, which is why they jump on any D list loser who gives them the time of day. It's certainly hypocritical and yet the fact remains…

But now it seems that they shouldn't be desperate about it anymore since it doesn't help.

 

Ironically, I think Joe Rogan would've been the only help for Kamala out of all her endorsements because she needed the male vote and it seems like he has that demo in a chokehold. But elections have been going on without celebrities for decades so it clearly isn't all that important. What matters are the policies of a candidate.  

[BionicWooHoo]

I don't think celebrity endorsements are the main problem per se. It's the messaging. Love Lady Gaga and like Beyonce but they were both born upper middle class. What do they know about working class struggles? Like all they can talk about when they get on stage is "I'm a mom too!!!" or "I'm a woman too!!."

 

Give me a celebrity that actually was working class and have them talk about how Democratic policies helped their families, THATS how you effectively use a celebrity endorsement 

[Matthew]

11 hours ago, Onyxmage said:

Yet Trump was endorsed by the richest man in the world who isnt even American.  I swear some people are so damn stupid. 

 

 

Even though Elon is a celebrity, he is a businessman first. In their naive eyes, he has more credibility. Same with Trump. 

[GraceRandolph]

The DNC blaming everyone but themselves and the candidates they run 

[Onyxmage]

1 hour ago, Matthew said:

Even though Elon is a celebrity, he is a businessman first. In their naive eyes, he has more credibility. Same with Trump. 

Elon Musk is the richest man in the world and hes not even American. The fact that you keep giving these idiots a pass doesn't make you anymore correct. The only reason Trump wasnt parading around celebrities on stage is because NOBODY likes him besides creepy billionaires. Well except Nicky Jam, Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan.  

[Onyxmage]

8 hours ago, BionicWooHoo said:

I don't think celebrity endorsements are the main problem per se. It's the messaging. Love Lady Gaga and like Beyonce but they were both born upper middle class. What do they know about working class struggles? Like all they can talk about when they get on stage is "I'm a mom too!!!" or "I'm a woman too!!."

 

Give me a celebrity that actually was working class and have them talk about how Democratic policies helped their families, THATS how you effectively use a celebrity endorsement 

Trump was born rich.  He was given an inheritance of millions by his father and bragged about sitting on a solid gold toilet. What the hell does he know about working class struggles?

Edited November 11 by Onyxmage

[BionicWooHoo]

30 minutes ago, Onyxmage said:

Trump was born rich.  He was given an inheritance of millions by his father and bragged about sitting on a solid gold toilet. What the hell does he know about working class struggles?

Oh I agree but I'm still saying that Democrats need to they need to use their celeb endorsements differently 

[KKKIMO92]

The economy has worsened a lot over the years. And the a list celebrities enjoyed a very different life styles compared to normal people, so the issues they concerns and raised aren't really cut it. Try to fix the real issues than just yelling equality and stuff.