celeb news Current Sugababes "We are the best line-up"

[popmusicisdead]

yes 2.0 were their popularity peak but let's not act like Ms. Home on a Range wasn't the weakest link. her shaky, Vietnamese rice paper-thin vocals could never deliver Beat Is Gone-type vocal gymnastics 

 

Edited November 1, 2024 by popmusicisdead

[AxelFox]

They're not but that's okay, they need to prop themselves up one way or another. 

[Joyride]

1 hour ago, ithinkheknowsoutsold said:

I believe that for the longest while Keisha used to say 3.0 was her favourite line up because of the memories they made and how much fun they used to have. It's a shame how things went down between the girls.

Amelle added so much to the brand as well it's crazy she never gets her flowers

[Flanders]

11 hours ago, Kanye West said:

I'm sorry but this halloween wig

[babycomeround]

Vocally, I don't see how anyone can say this isn't the best line-up.

 

2.0 is the one most people know but Heidi was not a great vocalist. She may have been your favourite but the truth is she was blonde and pretty. She didn't bring much else to the table. Amelle was no vocal match for Mutya. The artistry and identity became less with each lineup change. For instance, could you imagine Heidi performing in the Boiler Room?

Edited November 1, 2024 by babycomeround

[Chemist]

poor Heidi, to me she was the face of the Sugababes

[Truth Teller]

They are a different group to be honest. And I wish they focused on that and dodged all comparisons. 2.0 were the commercial Sugababes and excelled at that in a way 1.0 could never (and will never) and 1.0 are the artistic Sugababes in a cohesive, musically skilled way that Heidi wasn't really cut out for. And that's fine for everyone involved. The people who loved the commercial pop iteration are probably not feeling the new music anyway so it's easy to draw a line and start fresh. No need for catfights and spotlights

 

All that these constant comparisons do is highlight the awkward fact that this "original" line-up is mostly covering songs that other line-ups recorded, their most remembered single being one that 2/3 current members weren't a part of. Just let bygones be bygones and give us another Flatline

[Zerby]

1 hour ago, babycomeround said:

Vocally, I don't see how anyone can say this isn't the best line-up.

 

2.0 is the one most people know but Heidi was not a great vocalist. She may have been your favourite but the truth is she was blonde and pretty. She didn't bring much else to the table. Amelle was no vocal match for Mutya. The artistry and identity became less with each lineup change. For instance, could you imagine Heidi performing in the Boiler Room?

this. all aroung they're the best imo. (jade & amelle were a lil bit of better at dancing during sweet 7 but that was never a babe requierment.) 1.0 can keep on touring just and be very succesfull on their legacy alone. heidi was always so shaky vocally but she could join them on special occasions if they're up to it cause she was a huge part of the babes. or siobhan can wear a blonde wig and no one will know the difference. 

27 minutes ago, Truth Teller said:

They are a different group to be honest. And I wish they focused on that and dodged all comparisons. 2.0 were the commercial Sugababes and excelled at that in a way 1.0 could never (and will never) and 1.0 are the artistic Sugababes in a cohesive, musically skilled way that Heidi wasn't really cut out for. And that's fine for everyone involved. The people who loved the commercial pop iteration are probably not feeling the new music anyway so it's easy to draw a line and start fresh. No need for catfights and spotlights

 

All that these constant comparisons do is highlight the awkward fact that this "original" line-up is mostly covering songs that other line-ups recorded, their most remembered single being one that 2/3 current members weren't a part of. Just let bygones be bygones and give us another Flatline

agree but comparing the line-ups is inevitable cause there were catfights that followed all these changes. they could move away from the comparisons themselves though during interviews and stuff and let their work speak for itself. 

about you now is remembered but is it their most remembered? plus everyone going to these festivals/shows knows keisha and mutya they probably have no clue mutya wasn't singing on the song or even siobhan tbh. it's not like 

 

 

[Kanye West]

2 hours ago, Truth Teller said:

They are a different group to be honest. And I wish they focused on that and dodged all comparisons. 2.0 were the commercial Sugababes and excelled at that in a way 1.0 could never (and will never) and 1.0 are the artistic Sugababes in a cohesive, musically skilled way that Heidi wasn't really cut out for. And that's fine for everyone involved. The people who loved the commercial pop iteration are probably not feeling the new music anyway so it's easy to draw a line and start fresh. No need for catfights and spotlights

 

All that these constant comparisons do is highlight the awkward fact that this "original" line-up is mostly covering songs that other line-ups recorded, their most remembered single being one that 2/3 current members weren't a part of. Just let bygones be bygones and give us another Flatline

In all fairness, 2.0 were with a much better label. If they had made the move to Island Records with Siobhan I 100% believe she would've pulled off all of those songs. Freak Like Me would've still happened regardless at least. I imagine they would've still worked with Xenomania too as management were responsible for connecting them

[tbhmatt]

What a stupid question to ask them, sorry 

[NoAngelus]

Oh god I am so tired of them being so nasty. They totally burned my 22 years old stan card. 

[NoAngelus]

20 hours ago, Joyride said:

rumour is that Heidi and the other girls could potentially perform under the Sugababes name, Heidi and Amelle are down. Heidi is also all over their writing credits.

There are no rumors. This is literally made up lie by 1.0 stans trying to put even more hate on Heidi and Amelle. 

[NoAngelus]

8 hours ago, babycomeround said:

Vocally, I don't see how anyone can say this isn't the best line-up.

 

2.0 is the one most people know but Heidi was not a great vocalist. She may have been your favourite but the truth is she was blonde and pretty. She didn't bring much else to the table. Amelle was no vocal match for Mutya. The artistry and identity became less with each lineup change. For instance, could you imagine Heidi performing in the Boiler Room?

Yes. I could imagine Heidi perform at the Boiler Room. 

 

Artistry and identity declined with each album because they also became all worn out and had no time to grow as artists and were constantly thrown into next era.

 

Let me remind you that Keisha herself exposed Mutya's lack on input in artistry and them having to give her writing credits to keep the 'prestige' of all 3 being songwriters.

Edited November 1, 2024 by NoAngelus

[DonnaSpring]

2.0 best comerically

4.0 is my favourite and the most vocally 

[FantasyRide]

All of the line-ups/new members added over the years have made sense from an image/styling/branding perspective imo. The label knew this which is why each line-up found success. 
 

Heidi was a great addition to the line-up looking at the early 2000s UK pop landscape, same with Amelle in the late 2000s UK pop landscape, even Jade made sense, but the brand was kind of tired  by the time Sweet 7 came out. 
 

I think the current line-up makes sense in today's pop culture landscape because they're going for an indie-pop vibe. 

[M-P-B]

#Justice4Heidi

[Attitude]

Heidi stans miss this

 

 

[Abracadabra]

On 11/1/2024 at 12:17 AM, lillavend3r said:

I lowkey agree but why are they so keen so shading other members it's giving mad over nothing

They're not shading tho? They just got asked a question and they answered

[Maroonx]

Sugababes 1.0 is raw talent x

[NoAngelus]

On 11/2/2024 at 12:44 PM, J-esper said:

They are right. Like ofcourse we all know they commercially blew up when they resigned to a major label and Heidi joined for 2.0. But you can hear how little Heidi contributed to the sound or lyrics if you listen their discography. 

This is literally a lie made up by delusional 1.0 stans and their obsession to discredit Heidi.

 

At this point I am happy 1.0 are commercial bomb that no one knows are even back, you deserve this karma. 

 

On 11/2/2024 at 12:44 PM, J-esper said:

After Mutya left their sound fell apart slowly but steadily and the moment they tried to keep Keisha away from a pen for Sweet 7, there was nothing left that made them interesting. 

It's a well known FACT that Heidi contributed equally along with Keisha during 2.0 days, while Mutya was only getting her name written in credits KESIHA HERSELF SAID IT back in the day.

 

And funny how you blame Heidi for decline in quality since 2005 when that's exactly when Keisha took over control of the brand and the band and Heidi took a step back.

[Mr.X]

Love the girl, but Siobhán's wig is... puzzling

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5, 2024 by Mr.X

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

On 11/2/2024 at 11:44 AM, J-esper said:

They are right. Like ofcourse we all know they commercially blew up when they resigned to a major label and Heidi joined for 2.0. But you can hear how little Heidi contributed to the sound or lyrics if you listen their discography. 

 

After Mutya left their sound fell apart slowly but steadily and the moment they tried to keep Keisha away from a pen for Sweet 7, there was nothing left that made them interesting. 

 

And no shade,  Heidi did the job she had perfectly.  But when I listen to the Lost Tapes, I hear that magic that more or less faded since Change. Songs like I'm Alright and No Regrets sonically and lyrically feel like where the girls left off with Taller In More Ways. Songs like Flatline, Metal Heart and I Lay Down feel like songs that feel like grown up approaches to sounds they tipped in on their debut album. 

 

MKS still sound so good together,  like an oiled machine and Siobhan picks up these songs she never was part of in a great way.

 

 

 

This is literally not true? Mutya contributed nothing to Change, and barely anything to Taller In More Ways besides Follow Me Home. Keisha herself said that she and Heidi wrote all of the songs on the album (Heidi typically wrote middle eights, which is where you'll find her most often on most Sugababes tracks). You can listen here at the 4:00 minute mark, where she specifically talks about Push The Button was written entirely without Mutya present despite her being credited:

 

 

Mutya wasn't much of a writer, her debut album features on half the tracks and even on The Lost Tapes she has the least amount of credits. On the contrary, Heidi is mentioned to have contributed to a lot of songs, such as Stronger and Hole In The Head, and her being credited on most of Change along with Keisha when the album had a lot of TIMW scraps confirms her involvement was greater than Mutya's despite what songwriting credits may suggest. Keisha and Siobhan share credits on most of TLT and Siobhan wasn't there for Change, so unless you want to imply only Keisha contributed to the group's sound,  this revisionism and forced painting of Heidi as some non-contributing puppet really needs to stop. 

Edited November 5, 2024 by ithinkheknowsoutsold