byzantium Posted October 31 Posted October 31 3 minutes ago, Thin White Duke said: Ain't nobody "complaining" girl, just people enjoying a trainwreck. Great glad we are all becoming more globally aware. 4 minutes ago, Thin White Duke said: Mericans seem to become aware there are other countries in the world only when they are mentioned in the same sentence as them. Sweeping generalizations like this though just make you seem kind of small minded. 7 minutes ago, Thin White Duke said: Anyway, back to OP: yeah, that's weird. How those boxes survive is a miracle. The box itself is like a $6,000 piece of metal and is under surveillance. But it's not that much different than putting it in a mail box.
Illuminati Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Someone geolocate the exact mail box and change her vote to Kamala Harris
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted October 31 ATRL Moderator Posted October 31 The same people that claim Americans live in a bubble are now shocked that things happen differently in a country they don't live in the irony. 1 4
Cloudy Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 minute ago, Azulito said: The same people that claim Americans live in a bubble are now shocked that things happen differently in a country they don't live in the irony. People are just shocked at the method they use...The lack of security and measures to ensure a fair voting is unbelievable for a country like the USA 12
Galaxy Posted October 31 Posted October 31 30 minutes ago, Jotham said: Oh I bet David Henrie was seething to see that He's a Republican?
Katamari Posted October 31 Posted October 31 4 minutes ago, Cloudy said: People are just shocked at the method they use...The lack of security and measures to ensure a fair voting is unbelievable for a country like the USA I will say it should be inside the actual election office but i guess it's a matter of convenience
Nightingale Posted October 31 Posted October 31 I'm just confused why international people are so confused by this. 1
Letters From Adi Posted October 31 Posted October 31 If some MAGA stans break into the box and hide those votes, what are you going to do about it? This whole system seems so susceptible to voter fraud, **** like this won't fly in most countries 4
LittleStarmen Posted October 31 Posted October 31 The american voting system is such a scam... Right or Left but voting without an ID is nonsense 1
byzantium Posted October 31 Posted October 31 9 minutes ago, Cloudy said: People are just shocked at the method they use...The lack of security and measures to ensure a fair voting is unbelievable for a country like the USA What about this makes you question its security? I guarantee you, if republicans could substantiate a claim that these are not fair, they would. 1
Velvet Night Posted October 31 Posted October 31 When I first heard about it I was genuinely surprised this was even a thing tbh. In my country they will have their ballot drop off box inside the city hall, where security has their eyes on it the whole time. A ballot drop off box in the middle of a public location is just asking for someone to vandalise it to get at the ballots within. 3
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted October 31 ATRL Moderator Posted October 31 5 minutes ago, Cloudy said: People are just shocked at the method they use...The lack of security and measures to ensure a fair voting is unbelievable for a country like the USA I could understand it would be unbelievable if voter fraud was common, but it isn't. It's extremely rare.
Eóghan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, Ryusei said: Wearing a red dress but posting a blue heart she's keeping us in suspense and the blue heart could just be aesthetics in harmony with the blue on the box we love a feng shui queen 1
kimberly Posted October 31 Posted October 31 13 minutes ago, Cloudy said: People are just shocked at the method they use...The lack of security and measures to ensure a fair voting is unbelievable for a country like the USA https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5163635/ballot-drop-boxes-explainer I'd suggest reading this for people who are curious. The tamper-proof boxes are generally installed outside places like election offices, libraries and other government buildings, with rules about chain of custody and how ballots are collected. Many drop boxes are kept under surveillance. Some experts note they provide for safer and faster return of ballots than the postal service. 2
The7thStranger Posted October 31 Posted October 31 I've voted in Italian elections by mail and US elections electronically because I'm an ex-pat of both. I don't think it's weird at all.
Zaynsus Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, itshyolee said: Non-Americans finding something about America to complain/talk shite about part 2093388383. We're not complaining but it's just the lack of security, especially for such an important election as a presidential one. I just hope these boxes are kept under high surveillance because anyone can destroy them or set them on fire. 1
ImpressMeMuch Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, Jon Snow said: Those ballots can easily disappear do you not see the threatening all caps sticker on it?!?! pls do not look at the below photo. 2
Princess Aurora Posted October 31 Posted October 31 I mean, voting by mail is common in my country too. Why are people so surprised by that?
Cain Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Wait??? Y'all don't have to show your passports and voting ballot when voting in a secured space?? Sorry but that sounds dodgy as hell 2
Arthoe Posted October 31 Posted October 31 40 minutes ago, kimberly said: https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5163635/ballot-drop-boxes-explainer I'd suggest reading this for people who are curious. The tamper-proof boxes are generally installed outside places like election offices, libraries and other government buildings, with rules about chain of custody and how ballots are collected. Many drop boxes are kept under surveillance. Some experts note they provide for safer and faster return of ballots than the postal service. Hmm. The keyword that should be highlighted though is that only "many", not ALL of these boxes are under surveillance. Nobody really knows what "many" means in this context. It could be like 70% of them. Or it could be only 10%, since 10% of these boxes could still be "many" in numbers. The idea is good imo, but the fact that not all of them actually experience the same degree of safety is what is making people abroad raise their eyebrows. Especially after today, with the pictures of MAGAts managing to actually set one of these boxes on fire and destroy all ballots inside going viral all around the world.
kimberly Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, Arthoe said: Hmm. The keyword that should be highlighted though is that only "many", not ALL of these boxes are under surveillance. Nobody really knows what "many" means in this context. It could be like 70% of them. Or it could be only 10%, since 10% of these boxes could still be "many" in numbers. The idea is good imo, but the fact that not all of them actually experience the same degree of safety is what is making people abroad raise their eyebrows. Especially after today, with the pictures of MAGAts managing to actually set one of these boxes on fire and destroy all ballots inside going viral all around the world. yes, in theory, someone COULD destroy the ballot box. in the same way, in theory, someone could go to their polling location with explosives strapped to their body and suicide bomb the place as they're voting, not only destroying ballots but potentially killing other voters and election officials. they're both HYPOTHETICAL scenarios that do not happen much, because there are consequences for our actions. very stupid argument all around. mail in ballots work and actually increase voter turnout. they also make it pretty easy to track voter fraud (because everything has a paper trail).
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Arthoe Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) 12 minutes ago, kimberly said: because there are consequences for our actions. I think this is where the problem in the perception lies. Everybody knows that the USA is corrupt as hell and that criminal investigations get started or stopped at the whim of the executive branch, which is generally controlled by staunch right-wingers. Again, I agree that this is a good idea. And it's a good thing that there are SUPPOSED to be consequences to tampering with this. It's just that I honestly don't expect there to be actual consequences to let's say, a white supremacist, blowing up one of these things. Because America has shown time and time again that they're willing to let these people of the hook. And that not all of these having the same protections would invite targeted attacks. Edited October 31 by Arthoe
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