Disconnect Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) So, when Disease first came out I expressed my utter disappointment at the song, nonetheless, the video is AMAZING and it just proves to me that she's still got it and, if she could deliver something of that quality (the video), I'm pretty sure there WILL be great songs on the album. With that said, as the Little Monster that I am, I just remembered that this is not the first time in which I have actually despised a Lady Gaga Lead single at first and, IMO, this is not the first time she has chosen a bad lead single (quality wise when compared to the rest of the album). For instance, we got BTW which was great because it was a big hit but it's far from being the best song on the album, then we got Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa Perfect Illusion when she could've chosen Diamond Heart or Dancing in Circles, and then we got Stupid Flop when Rain on Me could've been the lead. My question is WHY? Does she think this is a good strategy in the long run or what? DISCUSS Edited October 30 by Disconnect
MP3 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 I think she goes with her heart first and then the success potential
nostalgic Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 minute ago, Brooklyn Baby said: Bad Romance is the best song on TFM Not when Alejandro, Monster, Dance in the Dark & So Happy I Could Die exist 2 1 2
LesFleur Posted October 30 Posted October 30 4 minutes ago, Brooklyn Baby said: Bad Romance is the best song on TFM The lies when this clearly surpasses
Bonicap Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Because it's one song out of, let's say, 15. So the chances of that song being the best are more or less 6.6% 1
Illuminati Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) It's the same for most artists. You would be setting your album/era up if you release the best song first and then follow it up with progressively more disappointing songs It didn't hurt Rain On Me's success to use it as a second single. Quite the opposite, releasing it along with the album gave the era the perfect debut week Edited October 30 by Illuminati 3
Mikeymoonshine Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Disease is great. I think the reason why she lead with Perfect Illusion and Stupid Love is because Joanne and Chromatica both had exactly 1 obvious big hit each MR and ROM. The plan was always to push those songs the most but why use all the lead hype on them when you can try and get another hit off the album. For Disease I think her label was trying to get another Bloody Mary style Halloween moment. They probably have a more commercial single planned to come out around January.
GagaChina Posted October 30 Posted October 30 applause is indeed the best(or most suitable) in artpop as the first single 1
Hair Posted October 30 Posted October 30 I'd be quite underwhelmed if I listened to a whole new album and found that the song I'd already been listening to for the past few months was the best of them all. It's a wise decision to keep the best until the album drops imo.
aotwbys Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Tbh Lady Gaga never picks my favorite tracks off her albums as singles and it drives me bananas
Doctor Dick Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Poker Face was also both better and bigger than the lead from TF. I think the only time she got it right was with BR and Applause even though that song was not IT to many in 2013. So yeah, it's safe to say that her and Interscope aren't the best at choosing leads. Even Shallow wasn't a lead at the beginning (INLA was) until they switched to it. They aren't good at it. I think we could have a MR situation where the second single is the better single or the best song will surface once the album drops. I don't know if it's Interscope themselves because recently even BOAF wasn't the lead for Billie or the buzz song and something tells me they had no idea of its potential. So maybe it's an Interscope thing or maybe Gaga isn't the best at choosing the leads. The snippet in the video sounds like a more radio-friendly tune tho so maybe they are intentionally bad at picking the lead singles.
Mr. Mendes Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Idk but if anything on the album is even half as good as Disease it's gonna he her best. It's one of her best songs ever, easily her best in a decade, and easily the second best lead in her catalogue. 1 3 1
Saint James Posted October 31 Posted October 31 40 minutes ago, Disconnect said: and then we got Stupid Flop when Rain on Me could've been the lead. actually no. Stupid Love was able to get impressive peaks on many charts including top 10 US and certs, still getting streams today. If ROM was the lead her second single would have flopped and she would lose a top ten + a decent chunk of units. it was better to abuse the hype and get a second chance with Ariana than use both opportunities at once.
NickARTPOP Posted October 31 Posted October 31 42 minutes ago, Disconnect said: For instance, we got BTW which was great because it was a big hit but it's far from being the best song on the album, then we got Ma Ma Pa Pa Pa Perfect Illusion when she could've chosen Diamond Heart or Dancing in Circles, and then we got Stupid Flop when Rain on Me could've been the lead. For these specifically I think 1. Born This Way is both the title track and represents the core theme/thesis of the album and really her career. She said this about the song: Quote I want to write my this-is-who-the-****-I-am anthem, but I don't want it to be hidden in poetic wizardry and metaphors. I want it to be an attack, an assault on the issue because I think, especially in today's music, everything gets kind of washy sometimes and the message gets hidden in the lyrical play. Harkening back to the early '90s, when Madonna, En Vogue, Whitney Houston and TLC were making very empowering music for women and the gay communityand all kind of disenfranchised communities, the lyrics and the melodies were very poignant and very gospel and very spiritual and I said, 'That's the kind of record I need to make. That's the record that's going to shake up the industry.' It's not about the track. It's not about the production. It's about the song. Anyone could sing 'Born This Way'. It could've been anyone. Even though there are better songs on the album it represents what she's about and where she's going in the next phase of her career. 2. I think they/her were afraid to reintroduce herself in a sound as different from the rest of her discography as Diamond Heart, but also afraid to release something as unrepresentative of the album as Dancin In Circles. Imagine her releasing her jerk-off anthem and then announcing the album was a poignant meditation on her dead aunt . Mostly I think Joanne was a hard album to introduce and they just tried to check all of those boxes at once. 3. I think she just really genuinely loves Stupid Love. She was performing it at her Jazz show this year lol. I do also think it was a deliberate choice to save the splashier single to carry the album release + secure a second hit I think Disease is meant to represent her return to form but they will also try and follow the Chromatica format of keeping the splashy single for second to carry on, or which has kinda been the case the last few times lol, revive the albums momentum
ATRL Moderator Legend E Posted October 31 ATRL Moderator Posted October 31 I mean, this should be the norm. Also, the best song is not necessarily the most radio friendly/catchiest one.
UrMom Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Cause she's an album artist and has too many good songs to choose from
Roberto Posted October 31 Posted October 31 Just Dance, BTW and Applause are all top 5 in their respective albums and I'm pretty sure Disease is also this case (if it's not, then Gaga is about to release the masterpiece of her life, because this is one of her best leads). Sadly, I kinda see the point because Perfect Illusion and Stupid Love were not even single material Like, wtf was she thinking when she decided to release those songs as singles? (PI while it's a good song, it doesn't represent the spirit of the album at all. Dancing In Circles, John Wayne, A-Yo and maybe Million Reasons should have been the singles from this era. SL is also decent but 3/4 of the album is better than that song).
VioletsandRoses Posted October 31 Posted October 31 She's kinda like Taylor in that sense. Half of their lead singles are trash (BTW, SL, PI) while half are good/great (Applause, BR, JD, shallow)
rebeltwat Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) it's a pretty common thing to release a riskier lead single as a statement/introduction to the new era and release the more commercially friendly song as the 2nd single. It gives the album more legs. Edited October 31 by rebeltwat 2
JoeAg Posted October 31 Posted October 31 4 hours ago, Brooklyn Baby said: Bad Romance is the best song on TFM it's excellent but Speechless is the best tbh 1
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