SharGaga Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: And that was her personal life choices and journey, in 2021. She specified that is WHERE SHE IS AT, not where she thinks everyone with substance abuse should be at. Quite the contrary, she is saying it's something she is exploring and that it may not work (which it ended up not working). And you also know very well that she relapsed after her overdose because she had complicated rape trauma involved with that incident. And she is allowed to relapse, again substance abuse is a disease and her journey being non-linear with her recovery is none of your business. She relapsed around the time she was being mass spammed and harassed by social media with needle and spoon emojis. The point is, her sobriety is for her. It is not for your approval or your excessive judgment and commentary. If you are a decent person, you'd just have some empathy and respect her journey from afar. Her DWTD doc was extremely triggering for me for personal reasons. I'm not getting into it but I'm entitled to feel how I feel. Promoting drug use after overdosing and making money off of it is just plain wrong. Edited October 19 by SharGaga
hypnodemiluv Posted October 19 Author Posted October 19 25 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: I wish her the best but it's hard to root for her when her whole persona is based on being problematic and rude and then play victim i won't even mention what celebrity you stan so HARD. Demi takes blame for her actions. Your "star" never... the AUDACITY... 1
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 28 minutes ago, burninredhot said: Ya that's sad but she also brought that onto herself with that loose mouth of hers.. like I remember her beefing with Mariah once to apparently defend Jlo that was 8 years ago... 2016 was her only true problematic year lol 1
burninredhot Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hypnodemiluv said: So she deserves DEATH? Damn what a stupid comment. No but she brought the hate onto herself. Stop putting words I never said in my mouth Edited October 19 by burninredhot 1 5
chosensparkles Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, Freakshowvato said: Demi, unlike half the people in your sig, is one of the people who never plays victim. She literally owns her life story, takes accountability for her errors, without shame, and remains empowered to live her life with complete health and happiness. Learn from her the only reason she is brought up for the past decade is : her long list of documentaries about her being sober again, how she's a victim, how nothing is her fault, and how people mistreated her... like... and then she plays the Regina George with acts like Taylor and Selena despite them showing her love and empowerment 5 1 3
hypnodemiluv Posted October 19 Author Posted October 19 Just now, burninredhot said: No but she brought the hate onto herself. Stop putting words I never said in my mouth You implied that by commenting my topic honey. At least OWN what you saying. 1
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, SharGaga said: Her DWTS was extremely triggering for me for personal reasons. I'm not getting into it but I'm entitled to feel how I feel. Promoting drug use after overdosing and making money off of it is just plain wrong. She never promoted drug use for anyone, quite the contrary. How can you watch that documentary, about a near death experience with lifelong health side effects, and actually think the message was to promote drug abuse???? Also you know what the subject matter is about, do not watch it if you have triggers. 1
KBax Posted October 19 Posted October 19 It's gross to see the users on this site still coming in here to say something negative about her on a dark topic. Regardless of your views on her, she's still a person at the end of the day. And giving a half as*s answer like "Yeah it's sad but she asks for it" is ignorant as f*ck. It's not about Froyo or singing to aliens. Majority of her career people have been making fun of the way she looks, weight gain, hate trains, mocking/making fun of her struggles on top of already dealing with depression and the pressure of being a certain way in the industry. We also can't pin point on what time she's referring too. She could be talking about earlier on in her career. Toxic gays on this site will never change though and that's a problem. 3 2
hypnodemiluv Posted October 19 Author Posted October 19 6 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: And that was her personal life choices and journey, in 2021. She specified that is WHERE SHE IS AT, not where she thinks everyone with substance abuse should be at. Quite the contrary, she is saying it's something she is exploring and that it may not work (which it ended up not working). And you also know very well that she relapsed after her overdose because she had complicated rape trauma involved with that incident. And she is allowed to relapse, again substance abuse is a disease and her journey being non-linear with her recovery is none of your business. She relapsed around the time she was being mass spammed and harassed by social media with needle and spoon emojis. The point is, her sobriety is for her. It is not for your approval or your excessive judgment and commentary. If you are a decent person, you'd just have some empathy and respect her journey from afar. i'm just gonna quote this because @Freakshowvatomaking incredible work by ending ODH's <3
burninredhot Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Just now, hypnodemiluv said: You implied that by commenting my topic honey. At least OWN what you saying. No I just mentioned the fact that she could've easily avoided this if she just minded her business 1
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, chosensparkles said: and then she plays the Regina George with acts like Taylor and Selena despite them showing her love and empowerment And there you go self exposing the actual source of your beef with Demi lmao, also Demi and Taylor are friends now so it's just Demi and Selena who aren't 2
hypnodemiluv Posted October 19 Author Posted October 19 4 minutes ago, SharGaga said: Her DWTD doc was extremely triggering for me for personal reasons. I'm not getting into it but I'm entitled to feel how I feel. Promoting drug use after overdosing and making money off of it is just plain wrong. I don't recall her promoting drugs, she was California sober but specified that it was about HER. But i can understand some of you feel that way. <3
SharGaga Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: She never promoted drug use for anyone, quite the contrary. How can you watch that documentary, about a near death experience with lifelong health side effects, and actually think the message was to promote drug abuse???? Also you know what the subject matter is about, do not watch it if you have triggers. You need to watch that doc again. She openly talks about enjoying weed and wine and just shrugs it off when Elton tells her it's not going to work. Guess what it didn't work and she has changed her stance since. So how am I wrong when she herself said she was wrong and going fully sober is the only way to go? Anyway stop quoting me love. Edited October 19 by SharGaga 2 3
chosensparkles Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, Freakshowvato said: And there you go self exposing the actual source of your beef with Demi lmao, also Demi and Taylor are friends now so it's just Demi and Selena who aren't I was literally a Lovatic up until 2014-2015 when I saw her becoming everything I hated do I wish her the best on her journey? yes for sure but I can't feel sympathy for her when she has been acting rude her whole life and her fans defending her she always came out as a jealous person who envied others... inb4 you come for her, yes Selena is extremely problematic and I was the first one to call her out on her behavior so don't hide behind her 2
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, SharGaga said: You need to watch that doc again. She openly talks about enjoying weed and wine and just shrugs it off when Elton tells her it's not going to work. Guess what it didn't work and she has changed her stance since. So how am I wrong when she herself said she was wrong and going fully sober is the only way to go? Anyway stop quoting me love. So you dislike Demi because she attempted an unconventional approach to recovering from using hard drugs and it failed? Thats really weird. And clearly the documentary showed MANY people and professionals had disagreed with her approach, but they also said it was her life and she is entitled to try something out and learn from it, like any human being 4
KBax Posted October 19 Posted October 19 2 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: the only reason she is brought up for the past decade is : her long list of documentaries about her being sober again, how she's a victim, how nothing is her fault, and how people mistreated her... like... and then she plays the Regina George with acts like Taylor and Selena despite them showing her love and empowerment Right because you know everything that's gone on between those 3 woman. We don't know their history or what's happened behind the scenes that's caused riffs between them. Neither Taylor or Selena have anything to do with this thread so why even bring them up. Not to mention there's no beef between any of them currently, so bringing that up is irrelevant. 2 1
chosensparkles Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, KBax said: Right because you know everything that's gone on between those 3 woman. We don't know their history or what's happened behind the scenes that's caused riffs between them. Neither Taylor or Selena have anything to do with this thread so why even bring them up. Not to mention there's no beef between any of them currently, so bringing that up is irrelevant. ask the Lovatics who all brought up my stan list when I just said I wished her the best but found her rude and mean 1 1
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 6 minutes ago, KBax said: It's gross to see the users on this site still coming in here to say something negative about her on a dark topic. Regardless of your views on her, she's still a person at the end of the day. And giving a half as*s answer like "Yeah it's sad but she asks for it" is ignorant as f*ck. It's not about Froyo or singing to aliens. Majority of her career people have been making fun of the way she looks, weight gain, hate trains, mocking/making fun of her struggles on top of already dealing with depression and the pressure of being a certain way in the industry. We also can't pin point on what time she's referring too. She could be talking about earlier on in her career. Toxic gays on this site will never change though and that's a problem. THANK YOU How can anyone see someone openly speak about their mental illness and how close they were to ending their life, and think "let me use this as an opportunity to justify all the reasons i dislike this clearly harmless unproblematic person" it is wild and insane. people lack basic human decency and empathy. 1
brazil Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) People complaining about Demi having a loose mouth while feeling they have to write down every thought they have. Sometimes if you don't have something nice to say. Edited October 19 by brazil 2 2
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Also most of Demi's controversies are people lacking empathy for someone with good intentions clearly battling serious mental health issues, whether it's her substance abuse history, eating disorders, or bipolar episodes. 2
Mocha Posted October 19 Posted October 19 i feel like demi finally got her act together and has become more self aware, good for her. Let me stream holy **** 2 1
hypnodemiluv Posted October 19 Author Posted October 19 2 minutes ago, Mocha said: i feel like demi finally got her act together and has become more self aware, good for her. Let me stream holy **** her best album tbh, title track and heaven are my most streamed songs ever 2
Freakshowvato Posted October 19 Posted October 19 3 minutes ago, Assassin said: she really wants everyone to feel bad for her. Or she is just being honest to promote mental health advocacy. The message of her statement is, do NOT commit suicide, because it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. She has an entire song for suicide prevention (which BTW it's been exactly 1 month since suicide prevention day). 2 1
SharGaga Posted October 19 Posted October 19 7 minutes ago, Freakshowvato said: So you dislike Demi because she attempted an unconventional approach to recovering from using hard drugs and it failed? Thats really weird. And clearly the documentary showed MANY people and professionals had disagreed with her approach, but they also said it was her life and she is entitled to try something out and learn from it, like any human being No baby. I'm only saying that that doc could have waited. She was very much still recovering. She could have made a doc when she was fully sober like she is now. Think of all the recovering addicts that saw her doc and thought California Sober was the way to go and relapsed to hard drugs just like her? Her messaging was very damaging even if she was just talking about her own approach at the time. Her words still hold meaning and have influence. Full stop. I'm leaving it at that. 5 2
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