New Edition Posted October 19 Posted October 19 I heard Hollywood and entertainment in general is flopping so bad lots of production companies are leaving the city for places like Vegas. Is that true? Is Hollywood about the become irrelevant?
LittleStarmen Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) I Live in Los Angeles and work on business and law side of entertainment and multiple things are happening With Covid + Strike + Election A LOT of projects were cancelled and so many people were fired, there are no new jobs being created, writers rooms are dissapearing and for a new comer hollywood is not making nothing. there are NO entry level jobs. its SO EXPENSIVE to film in LA compared to anywhere. locatin prices are insane and so are permits and etc. Shooting now its 2x3x more expensive than pre covid. Everyone is afraid of AI. Celebrities and rich people dont need to live in LA or go to meetings or auditions anymore and its all digital (which makes things more difficult for newcomers) And with Taxes and the homeless and security problems Living in LA became not ideal if you have the intention of having a family so everyone that doesnt need to be here and is stabilished has moved out. Streamers and hollywood itself made so much bad content last 5-10 years that they made industry a joke and relied on franchises and those havent been good anymore. Studios used to be run by producers and executiver who were artist themselves, with Big tech everyone was replaced by tech executives and extremetely long corporate and more complicate structure (A movie now has to please all departments includding DEI) and corporation decisions took over artistry and entertaiment.... Influencers and internet clowns get way too much attention and were pushed into movies and the quality of a talent is all time low. New ideas are too risky Old ideas are too boring The very bad and WOKE films and Trumpst etc made hollywoood an enemy for half of america. They damaged the entire industry. Tik Tok rotted young peoples and other adults brain and now they cant watch a movie or series or anything that requires sitting down. + Bars and clubs are empty, restaurants, everything has less people. even premieres. No one is physically in LA. Its actually quite sad and boring Hollywood will continue to exist but it needs to rebirth Long post and nothing is black and white but a combinatioon of so many factors Edited October 19 by LittleStarmen 11 3 6
itshyolee Posted October 19 Posted October 19 37 minutes ago, New Edition said: I heard Hollywood and entertainment in general is flopping so bad lots of production companies are leaving the city for places like Vegas. Is that true? I hope not because Vegas is already being ruined thanks to all these corporations infiltrating downtown and taking away the fun vibes of the city.
enchanted0 Posted October 19 Posted October 19 31 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said: Studios used to be run by producers and executiver who were artist themselves, with Big tech everyone was replaced by tech executives and extremetely long corporate and more complicate structure (A movie now has to please all departments includding DEI) and corporation decisions took over artistry and entertaiment.... this is the worst
Smarticle Posted October 19 Posted October 19 46 minutes ago, LittleStarmen said: I Live in Los Angeles and work on business and law side of entertainment and multiple things are happening With Covid + Strike + Election A LOT of projects were cancelled and so many people were fired, there are no new jobs being created, writers rooms are dissapearing and for a new comer hollywood is not making nothing. there are NO entry level jobs. its SO EXPENSIVE to film in LA compared to anywhere. locatin prices are insane and so are permits and etc. Shooting now its 2x3x more expensive than pre covid. Everyone is afraid of AI. Celebrities and rich people dont need to live in LA or go to meetings or auditions anymore and its all digital (which makes things more difficult for newcomers) And with Taxes and the homeless and security problems Living in LA became not ideal if you have the intention of having a family so everyone that doesnt need to be here and is stabilished has moved out. Streamers and hollywood itself made so much bad content last 5-10 years that they made industry a joke and relied on franchises and those havent been good anymore. Studios used to be run by producers and executiver who were artist themselves, with Big tech everyone was replaced by tech executives and extremetely long corporate and more complicate structure (A movie now has to please all departments includding DEI) and corporation decisions took over artistry and entertaiment.... Influencers and internet clowns get way too much attention and were pushed into movies and the quality of a talent is all time low. New ideas are too risky Old ideas are too boring The very bad and WOKE films and Trumpst etc made hollywoood an enemy for half of america. They damaged the entire industry. Tik Tok rotted young peoples and other adults brain and now they cant watch a movie or series or anything that requires sitting down. + Bars and clubs are empty, restaurants, everything has less people. even premieres. No one is physically in LA. Its actually quite sad and boring Hollywood will continue to exist but it needs to rebirth Long post and nothing is black and white but a combinatioon of so many factors lost me a bit at the DEI and woke films part but i see your other points 2 1 11
Archetype Posted October 19 Posted October 19 I think a lot of entertainment business is moving away from the west coast in general and to places like NYC, Atlanta, Chicago, and Austin. Also, LA (the city, not surrounding cities that are commonly grouped with it) is a piece of **** and has been a piece of **** for longer than I've been alive. It's a shame because the food is so good.
Contessa Posted October 19 Posted October 19 11 minutes ago, Smarticle said: lost me a bit at the DEI and woke films part but i see your other points Well, he works in business so of course he's not going to blame the capitalistic structure as [clearly] a reason for all the faults he has listed (price gouging, homelessness, etc), and instead pin it on the minorities and human rights that are easy targets and deep-rooted in racism, like the true American "businessman" that he is. 1 3 10
Princess Aurora Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 hour ago, LittleStarmen said: I Live in Los Angeles and work on business and law side of entertainment and multiple things are happening With Covid + Strike + Election A LOT of projects were cancelled and so many people were fired, there are no new jobs being created, writers rooms are dissapearing and for a new comer hollywood is not making nothing. there are NO entry level jobs. its SO EXPENSIVE to film in LA compared to anywhere. locatin prices are insane and so are permits and etc. Shooting now its 2x3x more expensive than pre covid. Everyone is afraid of AI. Celebrities and rich people dont need to live in LA or go to meetings or auditions anymore and its all digital (which makes things more difficult for newcomers) And with Taxes and the homeless and security problems Living in LA became not ideal if you have the intention of having a family so everyone that doesnt need to be here and is stabilished has moved out. Streamers and hollywood itself made so much bad content last 5-10 years that they made industry a joke and relied on franchises and those havent been good anymore. Studios used to be run by producers and executiver who were artist themselves, with Big tech everyone was replaced by tech executives and extremetely long corporate and more complicate structure (A movie now has to please all departments includding DEI) and corporation decisions took over artistry and entertaiment.... Influencers and internet clowns get way too much attention and were pushed into movies and the quality of a talent is all time low. New ideas are too risky Old ideas are too boring The very bad and WOKE films and Trumpst etc made hollywoood an enemy for half of america. They damaged the entire industry. Tik Tok rotted young peoples and other adults brain and now they cant watch a movie or series or anything that requires sitting down. + Bars and clubs are empty, restaurants, everything has less people. even premieres. No one is physically in LA. Its actually quite sad and boring Hollywood will continue to exist but it needs to rebirth Long post and nothing is black and white but a combinatioon of so many factors That is almost correct but I cringed when woke was mentioned 1
eyeroll Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Just my observations, but I left Vegas for LA in 2016. At that point, Hollywood was already deeply embedded in Vegas. So much is filmed in Vegas that it just makes sense to set up shop there and I know they have so much support from Caesars and MGM for locations, hospitality, access to celebs who are staying in town for residencies, etc. But more than that, I think it's the porn industry that's really taking over Vegas, that's been happening for a long time now but it's kind of wild how much of that industry has moved there at this point. LA is a mess and needs some major overhauls but at the same time I've seen so many of my friends land auditions & roles that they were never getting called for pre-covid. So I don't really understand it. I've also seen a much bigger live theatre push here in the past couple of years. One of my mentors has been a manager here since the 80s and she went from managing solely actors to opening a whole theatre arm and that's been super successful for her, for both shows in LA and having LA talent get booked for touring shows as well. 3
Onyxmage Posted October 19 Posted October 19 When all else fails blame the woke people. Anyway, like many other big cities its constantly changing depending on the demographics. Gen z doesnt like going out to the clubs and bars as much as older generations. They also consume much of their content through social media instead of traditional mediums which has left tv and film reeling (no pun intended) for the past few years. Its going to take the entertainment industry a while to catch up but I do believe that LA will still have a large presence in film, pop culture and television for a long time just based on the logistical, structural, historical and geographical factors of the city. 1
50thStateofMind Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Most of Hollywood and every big corporation deserves to flop. Good riddance.
LittleStarmen Posted October 19 Posted October 19 2 hours ago, Smarticle said: lost me a bit at the DEI and woke films part but i see your other points I respect ur point but films like this Set our culture backward
LittleStarmen Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, Contessa said: Well, he works in business so of course he's not going to blame the capitalistic structure as [clearly] a reason for all the faults he has listed (price gouging, homelessness, etc), and instead pin it on the minorities and human rights that are easy targets and deep-rooted in racism, like the true American "businessman" that he is. Im a POC working a difficult carreer, and I agree with your point. But im telling that business wise Hollywood suddenly started making only movies for the very liberal part of the country and that lost everyone money. Edited October 19 by LittleStarmen 1 1 3
Europe Posted October 19 Posted October 19 4 hours ago, LittleStarmen said: I Live in Los Angeles and work on business and law side of entertainment and multiple things are happening With Covid + Strike + Election A LOT of projects were cancelled and so many people were fired, there are no new jobs being created, writers rooms are dissapearing and for a new comer hollywood is not making nothing. there are NO entry level jobs. its SO EXPENSIVE to film in LA compared to anywhere. locatin prices are insane and so are permits and etc. Shooting now its 2x3x more expensive than pre covid. Everyone is afraid of AI. Celebrities and rich people dont need to live in LA or go to meetings or auditions anymore and its all digital (which makes things more difficult for newcomers) And with Taxes and the homeless and security problems Living in LA became not ideal if you have the intention of having a family so everyone that doesnt need to be here and is stabilished has moved out. Do you think in 5-10 years AI will majorly decrease the amount of writers / actors needed because so much of our entertainment content will be personally created by so far yet undiscovered technological advances?
ontherocks Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Lana moved to Louisiana. That's it for LA. It's dust now. 2
LittleStarmen Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Europe said: Do you think in 5-10 years AI will majorly decrease the amount of writers / actors needed because so much of our entertainment content will be personally created by so far yet undiscovered technological advances? No because people wont care about watching that kind of stuff besides the novelty act and like AI horror film paranormal activity. AI will be used for marvel and disney stuff but that has always been a corporate machine anyway. Hopefully effects and other costs will go down. The problem lies more in the consumer side that people are consuming yt, tiktok and video games. If people were flocking theatres AI would produce more movies and all would be fine. The big ai movies would have balanced out othe films. The amount of people working being reduced has to do with the market not AI Edited October 19 by LittleStarmen
LittleStarmen Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 hour ago, 50thStateofMind said: Most of Hollywood and every big corporation deserves to flop. Good riddance. No one in the top flops my dear, Its the people at the bttm that suffers in the end. Look at the banks in 2008, everyone on the board was saved but millions lost their homes.
Smarticle Posted October 19 Posted October 19 10 hours ago, LittleStarmen said: I respect ur point but films like this Set our culture backward by having a female cast? if anything it's the problem with the rebooting of a franchise for no reason more than having a female cast
Onyxmage Posted October 19 Posted October 19 11 hours ago, LittleStarmen said: Im a POC working a difficult carreer, and I agree with your point. But im telling that business wise Hollywood suddenly started making only movies for the very liberal part of the country and that lost everyone money. Thats an absolute lie. In fact its the exact opposite. Many studios refuse to greenlight projects because they specifically do NOT relate to middle America. There are so many great projects that could probably be made if it wasnt for studios wanting to water everything down to appeal to the widest (and unfortunately) blandest audience. The problem isnt "liberals" its lack of innovation and creative ideas. 1
Onyxmage Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 10 hours ago, ontherocks said: Lana moved to Louisiana. That's it for LA. It's dust now. Shes originally from New York. She made a cute career romanticizing LA even though she knew nothing about it. Hopefully shes enjoying her gator soup in Louisiana though. Edited October 19 by Onyxmage
Mezter Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Places like Atlanta and Louisiana have been snatching the film industry from LA for a while now. LA is too expensive
Cheers Posted October 20 Posted October 20 18 hours ago, LittleStarmen said: And with Taxes and the homeless and security problems Living in LA became not ideal if you have the intention of having a family so everyone that doesnt need to be here and is stabilished has moved out. + Bars and clubs are empty, restaurants, everything has less people. No one is physically in LA. Its actually quite sad and boring This is true for so many big cities. No one is going out anymore. There's a lack of new job opportunities, I have plenty of friends having difficulty finding a job throughout different careers. Some people will clown you about your DEI comment but I want to add something. A few years ago, SO much money was put into DEI work and funding jobs for this. Between the high turnover rates for DEI positions & DEI budgets being cut, people are losing their jobs. And yes the homeless situation in this country is definitely getting messy. Between incoming refugees & the already homeless it's getting insane. The government needs to come up with a solution FAST. 1
LittleStarmen Posted October 20 Posted October 20 1 hour ago, Cheers said: This is true for so many big cities. No one is going out anymore. There's a lack of new job opportunities, I have plenty of friends having difficulty finding a job throughout different careers. Some people will clown you about your DEI comment but I want to add something. A few years ago, SO much money was put into DEI work and funding jobs for this. Between the high turnover rates for DEI positions & DEI budgets being cut, people are losing their jobs. And yes the homeless situation in this country is definitely getting messy. Between incoming refugees & the already homeless it's getting insane. The government needs to come up with a solution FAST. Yes, Its an extremetely difficult conversation but most of the DEI initiatives failed. Simple. No or very little increase on Latinx films, Women or POC minorities. Also all those positions and initiatives were the firsr to be cut when money started to run out and made it even more difficult for minorities now. Changing the race or gender if IP characters failed all accross the board, not one sucess case.
bad guy Posted October 20 Posted October 20 (edited) 20 hours ago, LittleStarmen said: I Live in Los Angeles and work on business and law side of entertainment and multiple things are happening With Covid + Strike + Election A LOT of projects were cancelled and so many people were fired, there are no new jobs being created, writers rooms are dissapearing and for a new comer hollywood is not making nothing. there are NO entry level jobs. its SO EXPENSIVE to film in LA compared to anywhere. locatin prices are insane and so are permits and etc. Shooting now its 2x3x more expensive than pre covid. Everyone is afraid of AI. Celebrities and rich people dont need to live in LA or go to meetings or auditions anymore and its all digital (which makes things more difficult for newcomers) And with Taxes and the homeless and security problems Living in LA became not ideal if you have the intention of having a family so everyone that doesnt need to be here and is stabilished has moved out. Streamers and hollywood itself made so much bad content last 5-10 years that they made industry a joke and relied on franchises and those havent been good anymore. Studios used to be run by producers and executiver who were artist themselves, with Big tech everyone was replaced by tech executives and extremetely long corporate and more complicate structure (A movie now has to please all departments includding DEI) and corporation decisions took over artistry and entertaiment.... Influencers and internet clowns get way too much attention and were pushed into movies and the quality of a talent is all time low. New ideas are too risky Old ideas are too boring The very bad and WOKE films and Trumpst etc made hollywoood an enemy for half of america. They damaged the entire industry. Tik Tok rotted young peoples and other adults brain and now they cant watch a movie or series or anything that requires sitting down. + Bars and clubs are empty, restaurants, everything has less people. even premieres. No one is physically in LA. Its actually quite sad and boring Hollywood will continue to exist but it needs to rebirth Long post and nothing is black and white but a combinatioon of so many factors LA native and yeah I feel like it was getting bad around 2017-2018 but Covid completely destroyed the city. So many iconic bars, theaters, restaurants, clubs were gone and the remaining places left got overrun by influencers which then made theses places more expensive and shut out normal people. As a kid I used to dream about being an adult and being able to walk Sunset Boulevard and now it's a total joke, only a few places even worth going to. Santa Monica, ruined. Half of Melrose is just empty real estate. It all feels so has-been'd now What really hurts is seeing AMC purchase or shut down any theater that isn't them. They totally ruined The Grove. $25+ for a ticket = empty theater One of the worst things to happen to movies is the AMC monopoly. Their pricing basically made going to the movies a luxury instead of how it used to be an every weekend thing. It's cheaper to film on location in another country than it is to film in Los Angeles so what is the incentive to shoot there? Anytime I visit I know that there's millions of people there but it still feels completely empty. I don't think LA will ever be cool again in my lifetime, which sucks because I never got to experience its glory as an adult. Edited October 20 by bad guy 1
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