Apolonio ₃₄ Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 hour ago, Maybe said: Abusers dont deserve empathy. His loved ones do but he does not. I hope the woman he abused is able have some kind of closure/relief. Shut the **** up 2 11 2
Mariah4life Posted October 17 Posted October 17 "I want you to know that if Bear ever needs me I will be the Uncle he needs in his life and tell him stories of how amazing his dad was." Louis 10
lillavend3r Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Didn't cry at all yesterday but seeing the guys post on their ig broke me these men were an essential part of my childhood can't believe one of them is gone, i'm sobbing 2
SimSim Posted October 17 Posted October 17 (edited) Well those Louis & Zayn's messages sounds so authentic and touching, makes me realize how media can manipolate everything surrounding these people and their relationships Edited October 17 by SimSim 7
Doctor Dick Posted October 17 Posted October 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Maybe said: Abusers dont deserve empathy. His loved ones do but he does not. I hope the woman he abused is able have some kind of closure/relief. Absolutely disgusting comment that deserves to have you banned. Abusers are abusers because they are victims of something themselves. To write them off like they took someone's life is pure ignorance. Not to mention that we've seen time and time again that men will always be blamed for such things but how do we know his girlfriend isn't guilty here as well? Not to mention people suffering meltdowns can stalk and abuse and that meltdown is usually caused by some sort of abuse as well. What a horrible opinion to have. Edited October 17 by Doctor Dick 5 4
LaFlaca Posted October 17 Posted October 17 11 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Absolutely disgusting comment that deserves to have you banned. Abusers are abusers because they are victims of something themselves. To write them off like they took someone's life is pure ignorance. Not to mention that we've seen time and time again that men will always be blamed for such things but how do we know his girlfriend isn't guilty here as well? Not to mention people suffering meltdowns can stalk and abuse and that meltdown is usually caused by some sort of abuse as well. What a horrible opinion to have. ?????? 1
Vespertine Posted October 17 Posted October 17 22 minutes ago, lillavend3r said: Didn't cry at all yesterday but seeing the guys post on their ig broke me these men were an essential part of my childhood can't believe one of them is gone, i'm sobbing Hit me the exact same way. Somehow it didn't even seem real until Louis and Zayn's posts. 1
Venice B Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Louis' post broke me. Today I saw a video on tumblr of him talking about how he wanted to get back in the studio with Liam and write some solo stuff for him. The fact they will never be able to do this is heartbreaking
Mezik Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Saw too many posts paying tribute to him, found myself crying on the subway home reading Louis & Zayn's posts. Generally celebrity deaths don't bother me but this one I think is different because of how instrumental 1D was to my teenage years. They weren't a band I was obsessed with but still felt like the soundtrack of my high school and formative years. I recognize he wasn't a perfect human, but it just makes me so heart broken the bullying he faced for years. Poor guy didn't have any internal peace. 3
Misguided Ghost Posted October 17 Posted October 17 14 hours ago, Cbreezy said: As someone who lives on the Urban side of the forum and never stanned in any way (for 1D or Liam), I still find myself floored by this. Outside of the tragedy of it all, the next thing that has me most shocked is the lack of empathy by some on here and Twitter. I actually understand indifference, but to be so ACTIVE and decidedly VOCAL in their disdain at this time is WILD to me and shows a total lack of human empathy. It is the equivalent of going out of one's way to be both hateful and spiteful. I am in NO WAY condoning any of what he has been accused of and there IS a chance it was all 100% true, but this practice of hearing an "accusation", effectively auto-believing it all (without seeing concrete evidence), and then immediately whipping out the pitchforks is SO bizarre to me. Ever heard of letting the case play out and giving all due process? I could never speak so confidently or passionately with my chest about something I wasn't privy to seeing without...concrete, irrefutable, facts. Which is what a court case helps uncover. Nothing is new under the sun, so the public sphere has always been its own kind of judge and jury. But I legit think it's getting worse in this current era of social media. So much performative "support" when it's merely stan war drags dressed up as activism. IMO, the level of faux outrage tends to vary depending on how "liked" or "cool" a person is at the time. For example, Justin Bieber. Granted he rightfully clapped back hard at his accuser with receipts, in the time before his response, I don't remember this avalanche of hate. There was a lot of defending and let's "wait and see". Similarly, I'm a POC and I don't see this enduring outrage over his "n-word" remarks...it feels like it's selectively brought up when it's "ok" to drag him, but generally, it's happily parked in history never to be spoken of. I point this out for no other reason than to highlight the sheer hypocrisy of some folk. THEN...and I really don't care if I get downvoted for this, there is factually levels to what we class as wrongoing. AGAIN, I must stress that if Liam did what he is accused of (the harrassment, stalking etc), then he should be held accountable. However, is it that hard for people to use their deductive reasoning to clock that there are monsters / monstrous actions (like a Weinstein and a Diddy and a Hitler if we are going there) and then there are problematic actions like what Liam was accused of. The two tiers are not the same. To create a false equivalency and actively celebrate someone's death as some kind of activism is so disingenuous and WACK. It's like do some of y'all have BIRD BRAINS? This all supports my long-held belief that a lot of people simply consume "celebrity" as escapism from their real lives. They "cheer' for the "good guys" and "jeer" the "bad guys". They do away with the deductive reasoning they have to use in their "real life" and simply see a lot of these celebs as characters in a movie that they can project on in ways both good and bad. I am the furthest thing from a celebrity apologist and, as mentioned, I literally only know 3-4 1D/Liam songs COMBINED but to sit back and read such sickening remarks actually f'd with me in regards of how trash some humans can be. Specifically when I know for a fact that had this been a person they knew in their REAL LIFE or they ever find themselves accused of something, their reaction would be markedly...different. This will likely fly over most of the hateful hater's heads, but (not to sound faux-righteous) I legit hope it registers with...someone. Cus actively projecting bad energy has a pretty consistent way of coming back on the person doing it. very well written and my exact thoughts 2
State of Grace. Posted October 17 Posted October 17 The boys statements made me tear up a little. Especially the part about Bear in Louis' post. That man has been through hell already losing his mother, sister, and now his friend/bandmate. This has been on my mind all day. 1D were kinda one of my first faves. I thought I've outgrown them, but they were such an integral part of my early teens. He's one of the celebrities that I've grown up with in a way and I never thought I'd see him pass away this soon. Night Changes was already an emotional song for me, but I'll never listen to it the same way again. The whole situation is just sad and awful all round. 9
TomTom Posted October 17 Posted October 17 7 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Night Changes was already an emotional song for me Love that song 1
Popular Post itsmee Posted October 17 Popular Post Posted October 17 I don't like that Maya girl and before you jump on my throat she wasnt just telling her story as a victim of abuse she was commenting on insta sharing "tea" with fans like saying Liam talked crap about all the one direction members while attending their tours she already knew the amount of hate he was getting with these type of comments she put more fuel in the fire and this small action shows me how she didnt have good intentions and wanted to see Liam suffering and just expose him to humiliate him and have some clout for herself i know at this day or age we LOVE the expose culture but its toxic af everyone wants to throe everyone under the bus for some attention and clickd and its disgusting 9 10 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 17 Posted October 17 (edited) Wow what amazing statements by Zayn and Louis. That was true brotherhood through both the good and bad. I can't imagine how they must feel. To have someone you grew up with in the industry go by so soon and in such a tragic way. I'm happy they shared these posts. And I think Liam would've been happy too. To have his old bandmates acknowledge how much they loved him. Edited October 17 by KatyPrismSpirit
imabadkid Posted October 17 Posted October 17 omg their statements It makes me nostalgic of the 1D days... back when the internet was a bit lighter... and fun. Hell, the world was a bit lighter and fun. RIP Liam :(
itsmee Posted October 17 Posted October 17 13 hours ago, ChooseyLover said: 13 hours ago, ChooseyLover said: He was messed up and the Internet discourse was never empathetic towards him, it was more like a witchhunt. I have no clue how real those allegations were but the timing of it all with that absolutely attention seeker of a ex fiancée... It rub me the wrong way from the beginning. I'm not saying she's responsible but she knew exactly she was doing and had more knowledge about the emotional state of Liam than we did, that's for sure. He was really talented, I never imagined this is how things would end for him. Finally someone who sees what I'm seeing The way she went about stuuff really rub me the wrong way but when Insaw her comment on insta exposing Liam for talking crap about his former bandmates while attending their tours I was done with her it felt so petty gossipy attention seeking and a very low blow specially considering Liam even at that time was getting a lot of hate we as a society need to rethink our priorities not everything needs to be shared and exposed 6
Pikachoo Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, itsmee said: Finally someone who sees what I'm seeing The way she went about stuuff really rub me the wrong way but when Insaw her comment on insta exposing Liam for talking crap about his former bandmates while attending their tours I was done with her it felt so petty gossipy attention seeking and a very low blow specially considering Liam even at that time was getting a lot of hate we as a society need to rethink our priorities not everything needs to be shared and exposed wtf? if she's talking about abuse that's one thing. why was she discussing what Liam thought of his bandmates?
MusicLoverDude Posted October 17 Posted October 17 38 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: The boys statements made me tear up a little. Especially the part about Bear in Louis' post. That man has been through hell already losing his mother, sister, and now his friend/bandmate. This has been on my mind all day. 1D were kinda one of my first faves. I thought I've outgrown them, but they were such an integral part of my early teens. He's one of the celebrities that I've grown up with in a way and I never thought I'd see him pass away this soon. Night Changes was already an emotional song for me, but I'll never listen to it the same way again. The whole situation is just sad and awful all round. Don't Forget Where You Belong also hits different now </3 1
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