More Than A Melody Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, nsst said: are you sure? you've probably missed a lot of gross behavior around here if this is what you consider gross A man, father, son, brother, passed away tragically and unexpectedly at the age of 31 and you think me highlighting his victims and his family and thinking about them in this horrible time for them is... about being jealous? Or bitter? For some f*cking fan war? And you think it's... what? Funny? To post my avi like y'all normally do as a gotcha in kiing posts? Do some soul searching, dude. I'm being respectful even though I didn't respect him because I understand how delicate and horrible this is. You're being awful. 3 7
Afterglow Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Just now, Tinashebanks said: Everyone dog piles on a celebrity and then wonders why they took their own life…. 1D fans mourning but that toxic fanbase gotta take accountability. He definitely didn't do this to himself. 1 2
Mariah4life Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, Afterglow said: He definitely didn't do this to himself. you are so sure of it. were you there?
State of Grace. Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: ?? Where is this projection coming from sis? Did I say anyone should feel any way? Or did I say how I feel? Am I not allowed? Y'all can feel whatever way you may feel. I'm not the feelings police. It was literally not even on my radar to intend to criticize how others are reacting. Most people haven't read his ex's book, or kept up with him more than what's on headlines, so how would y'all know anyway? Like, this is such a strange and personal reply to something that really wasn't even ATTEMPTED to be worded that way. Girl you knew what you were doing with your post. Granted, I have not been keeping up with him in ages, but I have only seen some TikToks about Maya's book and they were pretty ****** up. I just think you coming into this thread saying that you only feel bad for his son/family/girlfriend/ex and listing all the horrible things he's done was a bit insensitive. You do you though. 3 1
Fruity Posted October 17 Posted October 17 7 minutes ago, imabadkid said: Honestly, the typical Liam "jokes" people have been making the last few years. It's just never been funny to me because it was clear he was struggling and not in a good space. This is true for sure. It's worth noting though that the jokes had ramped up a lot in the past 2-3 weeks for a number of reasons. 1. His ex fiance Maya talking about his abusive behaviour in more detail on TikTok and her restraining order against him progressing 2. His new girlfriend including him in lots of her content (he often seems kind of out of it) 3. Him attending Niall's concert made lots of waves too Lots of UK influencers have been mocking him and making skits about him the last 10 days or so 1
Vespertine Posted October 17 Posted October 17 6 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: I know you don't like him (or any of the other boys) but I think.....multiple things can be true at once, sis? We can be shocked, heartbroken, gutted, distraught and deeply saddened over the tragic passing of Liam - who was a defining part of the teenage years of many people - while also acknowledging that he was a problematic person with issues and Maya had every right to speak her truth and address all of the abuse she experienced while she was with him. You and some others are acting like we're mourning Diddy or R Kelly. Again, his ex girlfriend's feelings are totally valid and she is not responsible for his death like some losers are claiming....but time and place, maybe? Completely agree with this. We'll also never know now if Liam could've changed, or could've atoned, or could've at least addressed allegations that just came out. He'll never have the chance to do that now. Some people are acting like the judge, jury, and executioner in here with their blasé reactions to a tragic death. 2 2
Zaynsus Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Gosh, this is so sad... My condolences to his family, girlfriend and friends.
Delirious Posted October 17 Posted October 17 This is horrible omg. RIP Liam. One of the best male singers ever imo 1
Tinashebanks Posted October 17 Posted October 17 3 minutes ago, réveuse said: Why do people act like he's Diddy or Johnny Depp? It's an excuse for his ex-fiancé to keep promoting a book using his name. The most damning thing I've seen is he pressured her into an abortion… which I wouldn't even consider abuse 1D fans dog pilling on him the last few years for any & everything are the reason why he jumped/took those drugs. Those women who posted on TikTok that he would message for consensual nudes & them claimed it was them being groomed are just one example of their weird behaviour. 1 3
Bacardo Royale Posted October 17 Posted October 17 so weird I was listening to strip that down earlier, I was cringeing hard but it was kind of a bop back in the day rest in peace king
thinking Posted October 17 Posted October 17 7 minutes ago, PoisonPill said: Let's please engage only on what each other actually said. Liam is not my "fave" and I've never listened to a 1D song in my life. I also don't know anything about his ex-girlfriend so I couldn't make a determination of whether she's credible or not. It's possible that everything she claimed is true and Liam abused her. It's also possible that it's not accurate or truthful. Either way, I'm not going to celebrate the gruesome death of anyone if they've ever been accused of doing something awful. Good for you sis, but people who inflict lifelong trauma on other individuals, imo, deserve it
xfreshkidxx Posted October 17 Posted October 17 I've had a cousin pass away the same way and its so tragic and sad. I hope hes resting in peace now. This is so shocking
Afterglow Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Just now, Mariah4life said: you are so sure of it. were you there? None of us were but why would he have? Liam wasn't poor and despite what people saw as a breakdown I just saw as a pretty normal white straight guy who enjoys his fame. Idk In the videos he just posted right beforehand he didn't demonstrate any of the signature disconnectedness of someone contemplating immediate suicidal thoughts. I was just thinking it seems like a drug hit which with the rise in gang and drug crime in Argentina, and (may he rest in peace) Liams alleged heavy drug use... Idk it just seems fishy. 1
Popular Post Fruity Posted October 17 Popular Post Posted October 17 1 minute ago, State of Grace. said: Girl you knew what you were doing with your post. Granted, I have not been keeping up with him in ages, but I have only seen some TikToks about Maya's book and they were pretty ****** up. I just think you coming into this thread saying that you only feel bad for his son/family/girlfriend/ex and listing all the horrible things he's done was a bit insensitive. You do you though. Sorry but just because someone has died that doesn't erase their negative history, and it's worth discussing (respectfully) that his behaviour was regularly erratic, fuelled by drugs, and abusive according to numerous accounts - which is likely a large part of what lead to this untimely death. It can be sad he died but that doesn't mean we should wipe the slate clean and pretend he was a good person. Having said that Liam himself was a victim of childhood fame and probably could/should have been shielded from the effects of it much better! 16 1
brazil Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, Afterglow said: None of us were but why would he have? Liam wasn't poor and despite what people saw as a breakdown I just saw as a pretty normal white straight guy who enjoys his fame. Idk In the videos he just posted right beforehand he didn't demonstrate any of the signature disconnectedness of someone contemplating immediate suicidal thoughts. I was just thinking it seems like a drug hit which with the rise in gang and drug crime in Argentina, and (may he rest in peace) Liams alleged heavy drug use... Idk it just seems fishy. Not saying it was his case, but not being poor doesn't exclude people from committing suicide, there is literally a long list of wealthy celebrities that have committed suicide. 1
Dior Posted October 17 Posted October 17 *me crying singing on my $12 tik tok ordered karaoke set* Baby you light up my world like nobody else the way your lips are shaped get me overwhelmed
State of Grace. Posted October 17 Posted October 17 1 minute ago, Fruity said: Sorry but just because someone has died that doesn't erase their negative history, and it's worth discussing (respectfully) that his behaviour was regularly erratic, fuelled by drugs, and abusive according to numerous accounts - which is likely a large part of what lead to this untimely death. It can be sad he died but that doesn't mean we should wipe the slate clean and pretend he was a good person. Having said that Liam himself was a victim of childhood fame and probably could/should have been shielded from the effects of it much better! I don't disagree though! You can see in my previous post that I said both things can be true (his tragic death and his negative actions). I just don't think this thread is the right place for such discussions.
jadeabove Posted October 17 Posted October 17 3 minutes ago, Afterglow said: None of us were but why would he have? Liam wasn't poor and despite what people saw as a breakdown I just saw as a pretty normal white straight guy who enjoys his fame. Idk In the videos he just posted right beforehand he didn't demonstrate any of the signature disconnectedness of someone contemplating immediate suicidal thoughts. I was just thinking it seems like a drug hit which with the rise in gang and drug crime in Argentina, and (may he rest in peace) Liams alleged heavy drug use... Idk it just seems fishy. A lot of people do not show signs before ending their lives. The pictures of the patio in the back of the hotel seems to indicate that he threw himself forward, at least 5 meters away from the balcony in order to land on the bar terrasse. Otherwise, he would have landed on the terrasse that was approximately 5-6 meters higher. So it seems like he jumped forward.
ChandlerBing Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Rest in peace. This is such a tragedy. I am in shock...
Album Leak Posted October 17 Posted October 17 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fruity said: Sorry but just because someone has died that doesn't erase their negative history, and it's worth discussing (respectfully) that his behaviour was regularly erratic, fuelled by drugs, and abusive according to numerous accounts - which is likely a large part of what lead to this untimely death. It can be sad he died but that doesn't mean we should wipe the slate clean and pretend he was a good person. Having said that Liam himself was a victim of childhood fame and probably could/should have been shielded from the effects of it much better! This, especially when his ex-girlfriend, who has recently shared her painful past being abused by Liam, is now being treated as a perpetrator in his death, and is becoming as big of a talking point as the actual tragedy. Edited October 17 by Album Leak 1 1
Joey307 Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Updated opinion: no one has to mourn abusers. I didn't know anything about Liam's alleged abuse before today, but after reading about it, his ex GF had every right to speak on her experience before he died, AND AFTER. Liam might've been young and he might've had mental health issues, but that doesn't excuse the abuse he committed and it begs the question of whether we should mourn or whether we should just say, **** it. I think it's up to your own interpretation. Women's abuse at the hands of beloved men, especially the famous ones, is often too overlooked. Liam didn't deserve to die and he could've improved yes, I believe everyone can be restored, but we don't have the foresight to see if he would've and he's not granted it just because he died. Untimely deaths may suck but that's life, so don't take it for granted and do bad things with the thinking that you can fix it later. Best wishes of peace to Maya. 26 32
Afterglow Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Just now, brazil said: Not saying it was his case, but not being poor doesn't exclude people from committing suicide, there is literally a long list of wealthy celebrities that have committed suicide. Well I'm just saying admisdt the insults of people saying he was desperate, poor and unsuccessful during his "breakdown"... It was quite the opposite so Im just saying I felt those wouldn't have been any contributing factors to his alleged mental deterioration
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