celeb news Simu Liu accuses white boba business on live TV of cultural appropriation

[Bosque]

The way people are just promoting the product with this discourse  also, isn't he Chinese-Canadian? Boba is Taiwanese originally

[Kiel D-01]

Well he made some points. I was ready to drag. 

[Kiel D-01]

40 minutes ago, Bosque said:

The way people are just promoting the product with this discourse  also, isn't he Chinese-Canadian? Boba is Taiwanese originally

If you watched the video, Simu actually mentioned exactly that, that Boba was invented in Taiwan.

 

Anyway, he's right on this occasion, those people pitching their products as if it's the superior version (also popping bobas have been in existence for years now.  Hardly new/groundbreaking )  whilst spewing microaggressions such as "you are never quite sure about its [bobba] content."

[aesthetic bih]

6 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Are they erasing it though? It's no different than Taco Bell making "Mexican food" that appeals to Americans, or products like hummus being sold internationally.

Did you even watch the video? The presenters are suggesting that it's not an important thing to acknowledge that Boba comes from Asia. And their "improved version" of boba is basically just a "Westernized Version" in terms of packaging. Also people were already selling fruit tea with popping pearls for years before them, it's not a new take on boba at all.

 

Also two wrongs doesn't make a right. Idk if Taco Ball promotes Americanized Mexican food as American food, but if they do, they are exactly the problem Simu was describing in that video.

[Rhyme]

2 hours ago, Tropical said:

The irony of Simu claiming boba as an "Asian" drink over and over again when it's specificaly a Taiwanese drink that has been coopted and popularised throughout Asia. Taiwan is already cut off and estranged by most nations thanks to China's endless threats, so other parts of Asia claiming its products as their own has a certain thoughtless and dismissive nuance.

 

It would be like Thailand claiming sushi as an Asian food or Australia claiming schnitzel as a "western" food. It's nonsense. (That's not to say Simu didn't make points about the dumb things those people with the product were saying like "you don't know what's in bubble tea" like uhh it's tea, milk and bubbles made from tapioca. )

Are you even Asian? Taiwan is in ASIA....The issue is two white people claiming fruit tea with popping boba is inventing something new when every boba place has fruit teas now on top of them making it sound like boba is some junk with "unknown content" 

[Stunnah]

People talking about heritage. lol It was invented in Taiwan in 80s. Also this parents came from the People's Republic, not Taiwan. Not his place. He should stick to his Reddit incel forums. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

2 hours ago, Tropical said:

The irony of Simu claiming boba as an "Asian" drink over and over again when it's specificaly a Taiwanese drink that has been coopted and popularised throughout Asia. Taiwan is already cut off and estranged by most nations thanks to China's endless threats, so other parts of Asia claiming its products as their own has a certain thoughtless and dismissive nuance.

 

It would be like Thailand claiming sushi as an Asian food or Australia claiming schnitzel as a "western" food. It's nonsense. (That's not to say Simu didn't make points about the dumb things those people with the product were saying like "you don't know what's in bubble tea" like uhh it's tea, milk and bubbles made from tapioca. )

He literally says in the Clip that it should mention thats its from Taiwan

[Rhyme]

1 minute ago, Stunnah said:

People talking about heritage. lol It was invented in Taiwan in 80s. Also this parents came from the People's Republic, not Taiwan. Not his place. He should stick to his Reddit incel forums. 

Use your brain and watch the video. He said it was invented in Taiwan. Every Asian person knows Taiwan invented boba just like they know pho is Vietnam's, kimchi is Korea's, pad thai is Thailand's etc. They mostly all follow the original country's recipe. They don't put it in a can, make it worse, and say the original isn't as good.

[Kristie Kuwa]

3 minutes ago, Stunnah said:

People talking about heritage. lol It was invented in Taiwan in 80s. Also this parents came from the People's Republic, not Taiwan. Not his place. He should stick to his Reddit incel forums. 

Obviously you are white cause any Chinese and Taiwanese will tell u that their cultural heritage are highly intertwined. He literally gives credit to it being an invention from Taiwanese

[Pendulum]

Boba is quite literally 50 years old so to claim that it's something traditional, it is not. The points he made are valid though. Gentrifying food is not good. 

 

However, I almost never see any discourse on cultural appropriation when we are talking about food coming from Europe. Interesting. 

Edited October 12 by Pendulum

[Kristie Kuwa]

2 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

Boba is quite literally 50 years old so to claim that it's something traditional, it is not. The points he made are valid though.

 

However, I almost never see any discourse on cultural appropriation when we are talking about food coming from Europe. Interesting. 

Oh ask Italians how they feel about "pizza" and "pasta" made in the US lol

 

They would rather starve than touch that 

 

Edited October 12 by Kristie Kuwa

[Rhyme]

Just now, Pendulum said:

Boba is quite literally 50 years old so to claim that it's something traditional, it is not. The points he made are valid though.

 

However, I almost never see any discourse on cultural appropriation when we are talking about food coming from Europe. Interesting. 

Probably cause Europeans were colonists who forced their culture on many many countries? Stay out of this.

[Pendulum]

Just now, Kristie Kuwa said:

Oh ask Italiens how they feel about "pizzas" and "pasta" made in the US lol

 

I'm not talking about pizza or pasta since every country has adapted the core idea to suit their local tastes. I actually prefer American pizza than the "original" Italian pizza.

 

I had the Balkan breakfast trend that's currently making waves on TikTok. A case of blatant misrepresentation of a cuisine and a region that has little to none representation in the Western world.

 

[Stunnah]

3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Obviously you are white cause any Chinese and Taiwanese will tell u that their cultural heritage are highly intertwined. He literally gives credit to it being an invention from Taiwanese

Why don't you email the cultural section of the Embassy (if you have one) of the Republic of China and ask them if they consider it cultural appropriation instead of listening to Reddit incel Simu, who has NOTHING to do with that country?

[Pendulum]

Just now, Rhyme said:

Probably cause Europeans were colonists who forced their culture on many many countries? Stay out of this.

Can we open a history and geography book and learn that Europe is not only France, UK and Spain, and in fact certain part of Europe were colonised? Coincidentally the region of Europe that is often erased or conflated with Western Europe. 

[Stunnah]

1 minute ago, Rhyme said:

Probably cause Europeans were colonists who forced their culture on many many countries? Stay out of this.

Why is East Turkestan part of China? What about Tibet? What about when Mongolian was? I guess that wasn't colonialism! 

[Liafen]

2 hours ago, Tropical said:

The irony of Simu claiming boba as an "Asian" drink over and over again when it's specificaly a Taiwanese drink that has been coopted and popularised throughout Asia. Taiwan is already cut off and estranged by most nations thanks to China's endless threats, so other parts of Asia claiming its products as their own has a certain thoughtless and dismissive nuance.

That's cute but you could've spared all this if you watched the actual video first - which I'm guessing you didn't, as Simu's first words are literally: "I am studying your can, and I am looking for anything that tells me where boba came from, and where boba came from is Taiwan."

[Rhyme]

1 minute ago, Stunnah said:

Why is East Turkestan part of China? What about Tibet? What about when Mongolian was? I guess that wasn't colonialism! 

 

2 minutes ago, Pendulum said:

Can we open a history and geography book and learn that Europe is not only France, UK and Spain, and in fact certain part of Europe were colonised? Coincidentally the region of Europe that is often erased or conflated with Western Europe. 

You guys not understanding that no one cares about European food being co-opted because it was spread to Southeast Asia, The Americas, and multiple other countries because of force/colonialism. Nothing from Eastern Europe is even as known as boba  

[Solaria]

Yeah unfortunately this will continue to happen in the stage of capitalism we are at right now. Money makes the world go round, and money has only become more important and sought after since economies worldwide took a massive hit due to Covid. Being in line with trends, having people use your product because it's trendy and hip is something that most companies and business people will always value more. They don't care about 'heritage' or 'culture' it's not of value to them. 
 

It disturbs me but it's the reality of the world we are in today. Also most white people do not and will never understand the concept of 'cultural appropriation'.

[Liafen]

6 hours ago, GraceRandolph said:

Are they erasing it though? It's no different than Taco Bell making "Mexican food" that appeals to Americans, or products like hummus being sold internationally.

It is different as literally nothing points to Taiwan or Asia as he said. Even if their offering is largely americanized, Taco Bell literally has a spanish slogan, celebrates hispanic & latin heritage month and is widely known as a mexican-inspired fast food chain. 

[Bosque]

23 minutes ago, Rhyme said:

Probably cause Europeans were colonists who forced their culture on many many countries? Stay out of this.

Open the schools urgently 

[Rhyme]

1 minute ago, Bosque said:

Open the schools urgently 

The only food anyone cares to "appropriate" is the one from the colonizers. No one wants to "copy" stuffed cabbage or whatever

[BILLIONAIRE✘BOY]

[Polgg48]

cheese fruit tea >>> this outdated discourse old head drink

 

[ImpressMeMuch]

3 hours ago, Tropical said:

The irony of Simu claiming boba as an "Asian" drink over and over again when it's specificaly a Taiwanese drink that has been coopted and popularised throughout Asia. Taiwan is already cut off and estranged by most nations thanks to China's endless threats, so other parts of Asia claiming its products as their own has a certain thoughtless and dismissive nuance.

 

It would be like Thailand claiming sushi as an Asian food or Australia claiming schnitzel as a "western" food. It's nonsense. (That's not to say Simu didn't make points about the dumb things those people with the product were saying like "you don't know what's in bubble tea" like uhh it's tea, milk and bubbles made from tapioca. )

He mentioned Taiwan lol