IsidoraMarí Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Communion said: A proper understanding of syntax would mean their post would be read as: My example references their first point. Just saying things doesn't make it true though. Again please point out the proof of black men being unjustly imprisoned in the US by Kamala Harris OR of thousands of black men in or even hundreds in Palestine. Edited October 12 by IsidoraMarí 4 1
Armani? Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Edison's Exit Poll Black Male share for Hilary Clinton in 2016, in a much friendlier electorate was 82 - 13 btw These exit polls in November are going to be interesting, the standards always have to be high for Black men to cover up for the other electorate's bullshit.
KatyPrismSpirit Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, IsidoraMarí said: Just saying things doesn't make it true though. Again please point out the proof of black men being unjustly imprisoned in the US by Kamala Harris OR of thousands of black men in or even hundreds in Palestine. there is so much. literally do your research before you want to discuss this. As San Francisco's DA, her support for California's Three Strikes Law and her truancy program disproportionately impacted black low-income families. As Attorney General, her office resisted key reforms, not allowing early releases for overcrowded prisons, which held MANY black men, and opposed overturning wrongful convictions. her earlier actions in the positions she held contributed to mass incarceration among black community and this is a fact that can be easily checked. Kamala also advocates for support of U.S. military aid to Israel, which directly contributes to the killings of Palestinians by funding Israeli military actions in Gaza and the West Bank. She also opposes BDS (look it up) which aims to pressure Israel to change its policies toward Palestinians. Lol. There is your proof. Also did you not realize under the biden administration a lot of economic assistence intended for sudan following their military coup was halted? Do you realize how many people suffer/die as a result of this? suspension of humanitarian aid is a form of opression that kills people. while its not a specific kamala standpoint she still contributed to all of this. Edited October 12 by KatyPrismSpirit 2 1
IsidoraMarí Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 3 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: there is so much. literally do your research before you want to discuss this. As San Francisco's DA, her support for California's Three Strikes Law and her truancy program disproportionately impacted black low-income families. As Attorney General, her office resisted key reforms, not allowing early releases for overcrowded prisons, which held MANY black men, and opposed overturning wrongful convictions. her earlier actions in the positions she held contributed to mass incarceration among black community and this is a fact that can be easily checked. Kamala also advocates for support of U.S. military aid to Israel, which directly contributes to the killings of Palestinians by funding Israeli military actions in Gaza and the West Bank. She also opposes BDS (look it up) which aims to pressure Israel to change its policies toward Palestinians. Lol. There is your proof. Also did you not realize under the biden administration a lot of economic assistence intended for sudan following their military coup was halted? Do you realize how many people suffer/die as a result of this? suspension of humanitarian aid is a form of opression that kills people. while its not a specific kamala standpoint she still contributed to all of this. I have done my research, you're saying things I'm unaware of and would like to see proof of your claims which you still have yet to produce. You've shown zero proof and asked me to look into it and I've seen nothing about black men in being unjustly locked up by Kamala Harris, the USA being the reason for Sudan, nor black men residing in Palestine. So stop trying to masquerade as some intellectual when you're just making things up. Also Disproportionate does not mean unjust Oh you're different people saying the same things. But BDS against an American ally is hilarious though. The Israeli people don't deserve to be attacked just as much as they don't deserve to have a religious ethnostate. Violence is never the answer Edited October 12 by IsidoraMarí 1
karron0624 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Too many not black people are taking offense to this comment when this is how we communicate to one another. Please stop getting offended for black people. There are a lot of other things that oppress us that most of us would take no issue with this. 1 1 1
TiaTamera Posted October 14 Posted October 14 lol not people being dense saying it's because of her policies as of Trump's are much better and has been a wide supporter of Black men (see Central Park 5 and redlining). They aren't voting for her because she's a Black woman. Black men haven't been loyal to Black women in decades. It's the same song and dance when Shirley Chilsom ran for office and she was not a prosecutor being hard on marijuana charged. The men said verbatim that they aren't voting for her because she's a woman. Black women are loyal to their Blackness while Black men are loyal to their manhood. I don't want to rag on Black men but the education level isn't there to discuss policies and interpretation of them. Too many of them were arguing why she didn't do things as a VP and the things they were complaining about either will get checked and balance through Congress or it's implemented by the state 2 1 2
Armani? Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, TiaTamera said: lol not people being dense saying it's because of her policies as of Trump's are much better and has been a wide supporter of Black men (see Central Park 5 and redlining). They aren't voting for her because she's a Black woman. Black men haven't been loyal to Black women in decades. It's the same song and dance when Shirley Chilsom ran for office and she was not a prosecutor being hard on marijuana charged. The men said verbatim that they aren't voting for her because she's a woman. Black women are loyal to their Blackness while Black men are loyal to their manhood. I don't want to rag on Black men but the education level isn't there to discuss policies and interpretation of them. Too many of them were arguing why she didn't do things as a VP and the things they were complaining about either will get checked and balance through Congress or it's implemented by the state Firstly, 80% of Black men voting for Kamala was already secured by August in polling But for the remaining it's because of a multitude of reasons. I would say the majority of the minority are uneducated and think a Trump presidency would be better for them because they associate the inflation with Biden's administration than to the pandemic. They also don't know what Biden has done the past 4 years because their admin suck at messaging their accomplishments. And the war funding doesn't help either. Some are misogynist, sure. But Hilary got a higher percentage of Black men vote in 2016 than Biden in 2020 so this is mainly just online people you're complaining about What are the margins even supposed to be for Black men? Black women were not giving Kamala Obama level support either in the predebate polls so... 1
dumbsparce Posted October 15 Posted October 15 It's kinda racist af to not be allowed to think for yourself just bc one of the candidates is black. Find better arguments if you want ppl to vote for her instead of race-coating everytning.
TiaTamera Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, dumbsparce said: It's kinda racist af to not be allowed to think for yourself just bc one of the candidates is black. Find better arguments if you want ppl to vote for her instead of race-coating everytning. There are people who aren't voting for her just because she is Black but the people who are voting for her because she is Black are always the ones under more scrutiny 1
TiaTamera Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, Armani? said: Firstly, 80% of Black men voting for Kamala was already secured by August in polling But for the remaining it's because of a multitude of reasons. I would say the majority of the minority are uneducated and think a Trump presidency would be better for them because they associate the inflation with Biden's administration than to the pandemic. They also don't know what Biden has done the past 4 years because their admin suck at messaging their accomplishments. And the war funding doesn't help either. Some are misogynist, sure. But Hilary got a higher percentage of Black men vote in 2016 than Biden in 2020 so this is mainly just online people you're complaining about What are the margins even supposed to be for Black men? Black women were not giving Kamala Obama level support either in the predebate polls so... 80% of Black men are not going to vote. 80% of the Black men that actually are going to vote is a much smaller percentage of the overall Black male population. The loud majority of Black men who don't even vote or rarely vote are the ones who are broadcasting the most disdain for her and those men need to respectfully stfu.
Armani? Posted October 18 Posted October 18 3 hours ago, AlanRickman1946 said: Not Elon sharing this The stimulus thing was definitely a issue like 2 months ago, but it doesn't appear it's effecting things anymore. It would be embarrassing if the Siena poll was accurate(it's not) because of that. On 10/14/2024 at 10:43 PM, TiaTamera said: 80% of Black men are not going to vote. 80% of the Black men that actually are going to vote is a much smaller percentage of the overall Black male population. The loud majority of Black men who don't even vote or rarely vote are the ones who are broadcasting the most disdain for her and those men need to respectfully stfu. Black men will probably have slightly higher turnout this election, there's a lot of mobilization pacs But I did say you're just complaining about people online lol
DiabeticGrandpa Posted October 20 Posted October 20 On 10/12/2024 at 1:49 PM, Armani? said: Edison's Exit Poll Black Male share for Hilary Clinton in 2016, in a much friendlier electorate was 82 - 13 btw These exit polls in November are going to be interesting, the standards always have to be high for Black men to cover up for the other electorate's bullshit. I cant believe USA has polls based on the race
GraceRandolph Posted November 11 Posted November 11 On 10/11/2024 at 8:37 AM, LegaMyth said: So many Black men are making excuses. Finally, someone says something. First, she's not "Black." Then, it's she's with a White man. Some are upset that she had Black men arrested. Every Black man that I know, who is serving time in prison, COMMITTED THE DAMN CRIME THAT THEY WERE ACCUSED OF. Now, a bunch of them are crying about child support. Obama told the f*****g truth. Maybe you should also talk to white, Latino, Arab, and Asian men because they also shifted away from Harris.
Armani? Posted November 11 Posted November 11 1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said: Maybe you should also talk to white, Latino, Arab, and Asian men because they also shifted away from Harris. And in the end, Black men barely shifted from 2020 While Latino men gave 55% of their vote to Trump, and Asian Men & other POC men barely gave a majority to Kamala We're on our deathbed
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