Peak Now Posted Monday at 08:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:38 AM Cher v Madonna threads in 2024? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 09:27 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:27 AM 2 hours ago, Cain said: Unlike Cher, Madonna had smash hits in all those years in between Not just hits, but a long string of number one albums and singles. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted Monday at 10:20 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:20 AM 34 years into her career, she did have Sorry which was a success internationally. Let's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 11:04 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:04 AM 4 hours ago, Monsieurgedeon said: Because Cher did what she wanted to do and it worked (a bit like Kylie and Padam). Madonna is a trend chaser that has nothing to bring music wise. Cool artist for some times tho (but not since Hard Candy let's be honest). she cater to no one and no one is really interested in her but the old white gays. Considering Popular like an even slightly comparable to Believe is really a reach your honor. As much as I like them, Cher and Kylie have done nothing but constantly churn out dance music in an effort to recapture what they made 25+ years ago. Madonna was never pigeonholed in the same way because she never allowed her fans to dictate what she should/shouldn't do. If she did she would've been stuck in a rut re-making True Blue and Like a Prayer over and over again. and please explain to us when Nutcracker samples and Batuque music were trendy. Meanwhile, grammy award winning producers, Pat Leonard and William Orbit would have a thing to say about you claiming Madonna doesn't bring anything of value to the table during the recording process. They (like lots of producers) have all said the same thing, so why should we listen to someone on a music forum that doesn't have a fraction of their knowledge and experience, especially someone with an axe to grind? If no one cares about Madonna, they don't care about Cher or Kylie either considering Madonna is far bigger than the pair of them. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 11:29 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:29 AM Madonna is a JOKE nowadays.. for the past decade btw 1 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted Monday at 11:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:36 AM Believe and the whole album had a modern feel, love madge but Medellín was a big no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorjesspazze9 Posted Monday at 11:52 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:52 AM She did, also Like a Virgin wasn't even Madonna's first smash hit. It was Holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted Monday at 12:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:06 PM (edited) "Why couldn't Cher have hits with every single album for over 3 decades like Madonna and had a fluke at 54" would be a better title...but okay. Also, pretending Madonna didn't have an album before Like a Virgin with 2 top 10 hits and pretending Popular from 2023 didn't exist is...a choice. edit: Just realized that not only Madonna has songs above 100M every decade since she started out, she's also about to have her first 1b song on Spotify Edited Monday at 12:08 PM by tiagol88 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 12:10 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:10 PM 40 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: Madonna is a JOKE nowadays.. for the past decade btw Laughable coming from a fan of someone whose music career died 5 years in and literally just starred in a panned movie titled JOKER FAD 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted Monday at 12:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:13 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Monsieurgedeon said: Because Cher did what she wanted to do and it worked (a bit like Kylie and Padam). Madonna is a trend chaser that has nothing to bring music wise. Cool artist for some times tho (but not since Hard Candy let's be honest). she cater to no one and no one is really interested in her but the old white gays. Considering Popular like an even slightly comparable to Believe is really a reach your honor. See now i know you're trolling: Quote After Cher's poorly received previous record It's a Man's World (1995), head of Warner Music UK Rob Dickins suggested that Cher record a dance album that could appeal to her gay audience. Cher expressed that she was not interested in dance music anymore because she thought it was not a genre with "real songs", leaving Dickins with the option of convincing her otherwise. At Warner's London office, Dickins bumped into songwriter Brian Higgins, who was asked to pitch songs for a Cher album. Three days later, a tape with sixteen of Higgins's songs arrived. "I lay on my bed and put the tape on and listened to every song. The ninth song was 'Believe'. I thought: 'Cher could do this chorus, especially the lyrics, with her private life the way it is. She's gone through all these things," Dickins said. When Dickins asked the songwriter to complete "Believe", the result was a "terrible" song that still needed extensive work.[4] Not only Cher had to be convinced to make dance music...she has been trying to reproduce this success for all her albums afterwards. Plus, Believe was literally the sound of that moment. It wasn't a Ray of Light moment where no mainstream act was making that type of music. About your second paragraph regarding Madonna, "she cater to no one" well...yeah? She's an artist. She does what she feels like doing. That's literally why Madonna is Madonna At least know your history before acting like a fool. You failed to understand both Madonna AND Cher lmao. Edited Monday at 12:14 PM by tiagol88 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted Monday at 12:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:15 PM 45 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: Madonna is a JOKE nowadays.. for the past decade btw Shouldn't you be booking some extra Joker viewing parties at local theaters? Your fave is needing those. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 12:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:19 PM 8 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: Laughable coming from a fan of someone whose music career died 5 years in and literally just starred in a panned movie titled JOKER FAD Laughable coming from you with fave as the WORST ACTRESS OF THE CENTURY It's also 2024, 16th year of Gaga's career and she's no.1 in both Music & Film Globally 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 12:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:20 PM 4 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Shouldn't you be booking some extra Joker viewing parties at local theaters? Your fave is needing those. NOPE, we're moving on to LG7 after hitting No.1 Globally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venice B Posted Monday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:22 PM 3 hours ago, Peak Now said: Cher v Madonna threads in 2024? It's a slow day at the nursing home... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 12:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:34 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, FrederickGa said: Laughable coming from you with fave as the WORST ACTRESS OF THE CENTURY It's also 2024, 16th year of Gaga's career and she's no.1 in both Music & Film Globally What's laughable are pop dolly's who have no option but to turn to acting after becoming creatively bankrupt 5 years in. At Madonna's 14th year, she had the #1 album and film with Evita and neither of them were PANNED. At Madonna's 16th, she made the critically acclaimed Ray of Light album - that went on to win 4 Grammys. I strongly doubt Joker FAD and Harlequin will win any awards. In 2024, it's the Queen of Pop's 42nd anniversary. Not everyone has that, especially ones whose career went south in both music and film. Edited Monday at 01:21 PM by Charmed Life 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charmed Life Posted Monday at 12:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:36 PM (edited) 22 minutes ago, FrederickGa said: NOPE, we're moving on to LG7 after hitting No.1 Globally You would think Liddos would have learned to stop counting their chickens before they hatch, but here we are. Let's just hope the next album turns out to be the HIT you think it will be and wont flop or be panned like her latest projects. Edited Monday at 12:42 PM by Charmed Life 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagol88 Posted Monday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:30 PM 1 hour ago, FrederickGa said: Laughable coming from you with fave as the WORST ACTRESS OF THE CENTURY It's also 2024, 16th year of Gaga's career and she's no.1 in both Music & Film Globally I know you're not even trying to compare these 2 careers after 14 years. Madonna wasn't even on her Ray of Light era like... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted Monday at 01:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:30 PM i was actually very happy for Cher to gain such a huge hit at her age since we kno how ageist pop music can be for women over 40 but it sucks dat this was it for Cher and hasn't had a top 40 hit since u guys like to put Cher in this pedestal when she wasn't even da top b!tch of her decade like Madonna was for hers legends like Diana Ross, Donna Summer, and ONJ eclipsed her it was great after her success in movies she came back and had hits from late 80's to early 90's but after dat she was done 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahlo Posted Monday at 01:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:46 PM Why do people act as if Cher has ever been a significant influence in pop music/culture? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted Monday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:47 PM 1 minute ago, Kahlo said: Why do people act as if Cher has ever been a significant influence in pop music/culture? only Monsters do to use it as an attack to Madonna been like dat since 2012 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted Monday at 02:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:34 PM 8 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said: Exactly while Cher has like 40 albums with only like 3 of them being successes. This. I LOVE Cher but I always find it so surprising how many albums she has released, and how many of them are actually successful. Some didn't even chart at all. She's a legend for sticking around and continuing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:36 PM 1 hour ago, Charmed Life said: What's laughable are pop dolly's who have no option but to turn to acting after becoming creatively bankrupt 5 years in. At Madonna's 14th year, she had the #1 album and film with Evita and neither of them were PANNED. At Madonna's 16th, she made the critically acclaimed Ray of Light album - that went on to win 4 Grammys. I strongly doubt Joker FAD and Harlequin will win any awards. In 2024, it's the Queen of Pop's 42nd anniversary. Not everyone has that, especially ones whose career went south in both music and film. 1 hour ago, tiagol88 said: I know you're not even trying to compare these 2 careers after 14 years. Madonna wasn't even on her Ray of Light era like... That user said, Gaga's career is over after 5years so I was just laying the facts after Gaga's 16years in the industry.. And yeah MADONNA is known as the WORST ACTRESS of the last CENTURY.. Madonna stans cannot come for anybody's PANNED Films especially if their acting are not even PANNED 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickGa Posted Monday at 02:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:37 PM 50 minutes ago, Kahlo said: Why do people act as if Cher has ever been a significant influence in pop music/culture? Because CHER is more RESPECTED Legend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabunique Posted Monday at 02:38 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:38 PM Just now, FrederickGa said: Because CHER is more RESPECTED Legend she has not been and in this case u see what i typed was correct LOL if u actually knew her career u would kno da $h!t she had to go through when she started acting and when she came back to music 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted Monday at 02:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:39 PM Believe brought something completely new to the game when it came out. It happens very rarely. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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