base talk Most humbled fanbase in 2024

[Great808]

The Hive thought that Bey was destined for her first AOTY win just for the whole era to deflate within mere weeks of being out and completely out of ppl's mouth's once Billie, Taylor, and Sabrina released. Not to mention the current controversy her name is being thrown around in. 
 

Kats have been humbled for years but it was for them another rebound because as far as they could see she was going to be able to rival Gaga again and even more of a win for their own fave they would want to see their nemesis fall.

[Hurem]

People saying Monsters as if our fave doesn't have a #1 song on Spotify for more than a month now  

 

OT: Obviously KatyKats. They really thought she was coming to smash this time around, only for her image to go down in the gutter.

Edited October 5 by Hurem

[burninredhot]

The liddos coping hard in this thread says it all 

[Cloudy]

I was going to say LMs but yet you still see them being arrogant and bold in the face of bombage so I don't know if they were humbled after all

Edited October 5 by Cloudy

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Katy Cats were disappointed but not surprised. We predicted Woman's World would flop once Dr. Luke news came about. It wasn't a shock because we didnt set unrealistic expectations or standards on her.

 

A lot of monsters have been piling on the Katy hate bandwagon for the last months, probably the most of any other fanbase on here. Seeing Joker FAD becoming a box-office bomb and massively panned is just COMEDY. Because now, every LM went into hiding and spins their wheel of excuses. Most people would have never went hard on Gaga if monsters were at least a little more humble. 

[Alldeezy]

Honestly the The Ready Set ones it's only a small amount out there but we became like a family and honestly nicest people ive ever met  from all over the world

It's why I kinda stopped stanning Allday at least online because the fandom is SOO toxic. (yet his the most humble person on the planet so idgi)

[OrgVisual]

The coping from a certain fanbase is the perfect answer for this topic

[Dula Peep]

18 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Meanwhile Gaga has a huge hit song, an acclaimed jazz album (double 143 mc score, lmao) another acclaimed role and a highly anticipated album that will at the very least not be accused of being so bad it's AI and KatyCats have the nerve to call her a loser? Lmao you can't make this **** up. I know the Cats are desperate to deflect from the second worst reviewed female album of all time but we were all still here 2 weeks ago.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

22 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

NOT the KatyCats pretending the unprecedented disaster of 143, the second lowest reviewed female album of ALL TIME was expected and no big deal when they expected Katy to get back to her early 10s glory days because she had black hair and Luke (who they were asking for) back. Instead she got relentlessly humiliated, mocked and cancelled to the point where she consistently had to come out, slam the "haters" and pretend she was unbothered when we all know she was fuming her last chance at a comeback was laughed off the face of the earth because of how unbelievably bad the music and visuals were. I have honestly never seen a major pop album flop that bad critically or commercially and I challenge anyone to tell me otherwise. 

 

Meanwhile Gaga has a huge hit song, an acclaimed jazz album (double 143 mc score, lmao) another acclaimed role and a highly anticipated album that will at the very least not be accused of being so bad it's AI and KatyCats have the nerve to call her a loser? Lmao you can't make this **** up. I know the Cats are desperate to deflect from the second worst reviewed female album of all time but we were all still here 2 weeks ago.

Comparing a music album to a multi-million dollar movie flop is like comparing apples to oranges sis. 💀 A movie with a $200M budget that TANKED has far more at stake financially and reputation-wise than an album someone released with a 16 year career behind their back. Katy's presence in pop has been consistent over the years, and one more flop album isn't going to erase her legacy. She's been panned by critics since literally her first song. Just look at the amount of arenas she's selling out in support of a 143. Katy will forever be a household name and no amount of low review scores can take away her achievements. As with Gaga obviously.

 

But you can't compare it to a movie because they operate on COMPLETELY different scales. A $200M movie flopping means massive losses for an entire production team, studios, actors, and more damages. Meanwhile, an album underperforming that barely got any push or playlisting, especially a 6th one after a 16 year long career, doesn't carry the same weight. That should be common sense to you sweetheart. On top of that, music is far more subjective as film criticism is a bit more objective. 

[reymiu]

1 hour ago, LadyDiana said:

I have a feeling that the rollecoaster ride is not done for monsters

Wait until the Razzies  

[Junipero]

I know that everyone is talking about Katy and Gaga, but we are forgetting Camila + Shawn with Sabrina Carpenter leapfrogging the both of them with her music. Sabrina is signed to Island Records and so is Shawn, yet she now has seem to become the priority artist while Shawn may see a decline in his career. Camila was also at one point seen as a MPG and now Sabrina sings about how she "tastes".

 

It is two fanbases that have been humbled, and maybe 3 if we include Olivia's fans. 4 if we include Travis Scott's album rerelease. 5 if Taylor fans feel threatened by Sabrina.

[Orsay]

no one is even gassing on Gaga outside of this forum and the stan world

 

Katy was getting dragged by the whole internet  and Bey's reputations also never been worse

[KatyPrismSpirit]

2 minutes ago, Orsay said:

no one is even gassing on Gaga outside of this forum and the stan world

 

Katy was getting dragged by the whole internet  and Bey's reputations also never been worse

Its literally the other way around  

[Orsay]

1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Its literally the other way around  

So then can you find me multiple viral hate tweets about Gaga specifically (NOT just the movie, since yall are the ones insisting it's Gaga's Joker now that it's panned)? Cause there were several for Katy's 143!

[Kern]

Dua Lipsters and Beyonce stans

[Smarticle]

37 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Comparing a music album to a multi-million dollar movie flop is like comparing apples to oranges sis. 💀 A movie with a $200M budget that TANKED has far more at stake financially and reputation-wise than an album someone released with a 16 year career behind their back. Katy's presence in pop has been consistent over the years, and one more flop album isn't going to erase her legacy. She's been panned by critics since literally her first song. Just look at the amount of arenas she's selling out in support of a 143. Katy will forever be a household name and no amount of low review scores can take away her achievements. As with Gaga obviously.

 

But you can't compare it to a movie because they operate on COMPLETELY different scales. A $200M movie flopping means massive losses for an entire production team, studios, actors, and more damages. Meanwhile, an album underperforming that barely got any push or playlisting, especially a 6th one after a 16 year long career, doesn't carry the same weight. That should be common sense to you sweetheart. On top of that, music is far more subjective as film criticism is a bit more objective. 

Whew let those fumes out 

[Jay07]

42 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Comparing a music album to a multi-million dollar movie flop is like comparing apples to oranges sis. 💀 A movie with a $200M budget that TANKED has far more at stake financially and reputation-wise than an album someone released with a 16 year career behind their back. Katy's presence in pop has been consistent over the years, and one more flop album isn't going to erase her legacy. She's been panned by critics since literally her first song. Just look at the amount of arenas she's selling out in support of a 143. Katy will forever be a household name and no amount of low review scores can take away her achievements. As with Gaga obviously.

 

But you can't compare it to a movie because they operate on COMPLETELY different scales. A $200M movie flopping means massive losses for an entire production team, studios, actors, and more damages. Meanwhile, an album underperforming that barely got any push or playlisting, especially a 6th one after a 16 year long career, doesn't carry the same weight. That should be common sense to you sweetheart. On top of that, music is far more subjective as film criticism is a bit more objective. 

Exactly sweetie. Gaga has no control or responsibility over a massive 200 million Hollywood movie so she isn't blamed for it (actually she's about the only person being praised in this mess) so her career will be unaffected. If there's anyone to be blamed, it's the producers for approving the budget and Todd Phillips for being a talentless hack and they will bear the burden.

 

Meanwhile, Katy had everything to do with the disastrous flop that was 143, from writing every song to choosing the collaborators and all the baggage they carry. So she was rightfully mercilessly ridiculed for everything surrounding it, including the juvenile lyrics, limp melodies and dated production hence the second lowest score for a female album in metacritic history. Her last hope for a comeback ("I dare you to call me a flop", the irony) were dashed in phenomenal fashion after her third massive bomb in a row (so I'm not sure where the 16 year career claim is coming from, she was last succesful a decade ago and been flopping for more time than she was succesful) and she will have to scurry back to Vegas and reality tv while her peers are touring stadiums and forever be known as the person who sold out her morals to put out OUT-OUT dreck like Woman's World.

 

So tell me, who is the loser in this situation again?

Edited October 5 by Jay07

[Solaria]

27 minutes ago, Junipero said:

I know that everyone is talking about Katy and Gaga, but we are forgetting Camila + Shawn with Sabrina Carpenter leapfrogging the both of them with her music. Sabrina is signed to Island Records and so is Shawn, yet she now has seem to become the priority artist while Shawn may see a decline in his career. Camila was also at one point seen as a MPG and now Sabrina sings about how she "tastes".

 

It is two fanbases that have been humbled, and maybe 3 if we include Olivia's fans. 4 if we include Travis Scott's album rerelease. 5 if Taylor fans feel threatened by Sabrina.

Mind you not a single song on SNS is about Olivia  I'm pretty sure they've talked in private and are fine now

[Truth Teller]

The Camila Cabello mini-fandom?

 

Gaga stans have the Bruno song and an actual legacy and Katy stans have a catalogue of remembered and well-streamed hits, so neither fanbase will ever completely bow out. The few Camila fans I used to see here and on Twitter, on the other hand, just went QUIET

[KatyPrismSpirit]

14 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Exactly sweetie. Gaga has no control or responsibility over a massive 200 million Hollywood movie so she isn't blamed for it (actually she's about the only person being praised in this mess) so her career will be unaffected. If there's anyone to be blamed, it's the producers for approving the budget and Todd Phillips for being a talentless hack and they will bear the burden.

 

Meanwhile, Katy had everything to do with the disastrous flop that was 143, from writing every song to choosing the collaborators and all the baggage they carry. So she was rightfully mercilessly ridiculed for everything surrounding it, including the juvenile lyrics, limp melodies and dated production hence the second lowest score for a female album in metacritic history. Her last hope for a comeback ("I dare you to call me a flop", the irony) were dashed in phenomenal fashion after her third massive bomb in a row (so I'm not sure where the 16 year career claim is coming from, she was last succesful a decade ago and been flopping for more time than she was succesful) and she will have to scurry back to Vegas and reality tv while her peers are touring stadiums and forever be known as the person who sold out her morals to put out OUT-OUT dreck like Woman's World

Let's not pretend that Gaga's $200M movie is somehow less significant than Katy's album underperforming. A $200M budget for a movie is a massive investment with high expectations, and the fact that it bombed DESPITE all the hype from superstar legend Gaga being the leading role? That's a colossal failure boo, and trying to excuse Gaga from the fallout because "she's not responsible" is such a weak argument you LEARNED in the Liddo school of excuses.

 

The good sis signed on, promoted it, and is the MAIN part of the project, so when the movie tanks, she's part of that failure. Comparing a billion dollar franchise movie to flopass 143 is laughable. Katy's album might have been a disastrous flop, but it didn't come with a multi-million-dollar budget. So If we're talking about flops, let's be clear and repeat after me:

 

A high-profile movie with that kind of budget crumbling is far worse than an artist's 6th album getting panned reviews.

 

And while we're here, Katy's album didn't have the benefit of a massive Hollywood machine behind it, had horrendous A&R, several missteps, and still Gaga's movie and Harlequin companion album were able to underperform harder. So let's not act like one low-scoring album is somehow more embarrassing than a box office disaster.

[Jay07]

1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Let's not pretend that Gaga's $200M movie is somehow less significant than Katy's album underperforming. A $200M budget for a movie is a massive investment with high expectations, and the fact that it bombed DESPITE all the hype from superstar legend Gaga being the leading role? That's a colossal failure boo, and trying to excuse Gaga from the fallout because "she's not responsible" is such a weak argument you LEARNED in the Liddo school of excuses.

 

The good sis signed on, promoted it, and is the MAIN part of the project, so when the movie tanks, she's part of that failure. Comparing a billion dollar franchise movie to flopass 143 is laughable. Katy's album might have been a disastrous flop, but it didn't come with a multi-million-dollar budget. So If we're talking about flops, let's be clear and repeat after me:

 

A high-profile movie with that kind of budget crumbling is far worse than an artist's 6th album getting panned reviews.

 

And while we're here, Katy's album didn't have the benefit of a massive Hollywood machine behind it, had horrendous A&R, several missteps, and still Gaga's movie and Harlequin companion album were able to underperform harder. So let's not act like one low-scoring album is somehow more embarrassing than a box office disaster.

A 200 million dollar comic book movie bombing has nothing to do with Gaga, who has a supporting role at best and is, according to every reviewer, one of the only bright spots in the whole thing, and everything to do with the director and studio trying to sell fans a musical with no plot that undermines everything they liked about the first movie. I understand you having no clue about movie making but this is just common sense.

 

On the other hand, Katy flopping spectacularly for the third time in the span of six albums has everything to do with her terrible writing, nonexistent taste level and morally bankrupt choice in collaborators. That's why some people can use their talents to be reborn and thrive and others are stuck in a decade long downward spiral culminating in the second worst reviewed female album in history.

[Infernal Paradise]

All the essays when Gaga will continue to score hit songs and albums, tour stadiums, act in more films despite JFAD/Harlequin bombing while Katy will forever remain a morally depraved, artistically bankrupt, laughing stock of the music industry. 

 

[ROARyals]

3 hours ago, RussianRoulette said:

Monsters. Bruno made them feel so cocky and confident and then the reality hit them yet again. 

 

Kats were used their fave flopping (and being clowned) so they weren't as loud as liddos were one month ago.

 

But I'm quite shocked at how quiet they have been this past week. They are so many on this site and are usually so vocal but I guess the only thing left for them to do is spam the downvote button.

 

3 hours ago, enchanted0 said:

Monsters for sure. They were actually expecting Gaga's Oscar nomination + and laughing at Selena's Oscar hype when Selena actually has more chance + ******* won Cannes  

 

3 hours ago, playboi said:

Katycats just wanted a normal era, katy had already been panned even at her peak and it wasn't gonna change with one album

 

Monsters were convinced Gaga was gonna win an oscar and have the biggest movie of the year

Damn right we thought Gaga would get an Oscar nom as she already has one, bc she's a talented actress. Gaga did her job and crushed it.

 

Imagine reading a crumb of Joker criticism online and thinking all the negativity isn't directed at Toad but at Gaga… get a grip.

 

Yall are too loud to be publicly failing Hollywood 101 like this - directors fail actors constantly. This is nothing on Gaga acting career. This is nothing on her music career either.

 

Keep wishcasting ig

[beautiful player]

Little monsters, for sure  It's actually jaw-dropping the extent to which this latest era of hers has bombed. And it's only just begun! The next few months will be catastrophic and apocalyptic for them, I fear 

[Princess Aurora]

Katycats