celeb news David Gilmour: The rich and powerful have siphoned off the majority of music industry

[Mr.X]

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"I think the music industry is a tough one these days, and for people who are recording in it, the rewards are not justifiable. The rich and the powerful have siphoned off the majority of this money. I was lucky to be part of the golden years when there was a much better share going to the musicians, so I support anything that could be done to make that easier. The working musician today has to go out and play live – they can't survive any other way. They won't do it by the recording process and that's a tragedy because that is not encouraging new music to be created. It's not the greatest era that the world has been through, as gradually all the work moves to robots and AI, and the amount of people creaming off the money gets smaller and smaller and they get richer and richer. "Sod everyone else" seems to be the attitude."

Source: The Guardian interview

 

Definitely feels like a right analysis that David is doing here. It really sucks that artists don't make money from their own music right now. It is because of this that we get inundated with variants and side make up and underwear brands where they can still make some money from, but even then only the already rich & mainstream artists can afford to start such business ventures.

 

The hoarding of the money from record labels and CEOs really needs to end, or we must collectively take them to the guillotines!

 

Thoughts?

[Truth Teller]

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The working musician today has to go out and play live – they can't survive any other way. They won't do it by the recording process and that's a tragedy because that is not encouraging new music to be created.

He hit the nail right on the head there and that's the worst part of it

[Johnny Jacobs]

 

[sunbathinganimal]

wbk

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

Rich people ruined our planet

[piotrert]

there aren't many options, either streamers will pay more money to artists, which is doubtful, or artists will incentivize to buy physicals albums by including extra content that is not available on streaming, which makes fans furious. there's no winning really.

[Princess Aurora]

Where's the lie? 

[Mr.X]

1 minute ago, piotrert said:

there aren't many options, either streamers will pay more money to artists, which is doubtful, or artists will incentivize to buy physicals albums by including extra content that is not available on streaming, which makes fans furious. there's no winning really.

There's also another option: rich people stop hoarding the money and distribute it better amongst EVERYONE in the industry, which is what used to happen. Now it doesn't, the rich elites keep it all

[SoldierofLove]

The industry needs a TLC vs Clive Davis moment. 
 

 

[AvadaKedavra]

Lets to back to buy physical and say goodbye to spotify,tidal,apple music

[Trent W]

The problem is basically that most of the money goes to people who don't even do music

 

We need to stop supporting big labels and decentralize the whole market

 

Stans are a huge part of the problem since most only support exploited artists in big labels

 

Everything that comes from a huge label is already rotten behind the scenes

Edited October 3 by Trent W

[MatiRod]

You don't make money from live either unless you're really big or getting a lot of big festival slots. Basically music is turning into something only trust fund kids or sugar babies can really do at a professional level unless you really break out. The middle class of musicians is disappearing fast.

[Mr.X]

1 hour ago, AvadaKedavra said:

Lets to back to buy physical and say goodbye to spotify,tidal,apple music

that is just *one* small part of the problem as per the article says: the main issue is the elites who steal all the money from artists

Edited October 3 by Mr.X

[Mr.X]

29 minutes ago, Trent W said:

The problem is basically that most of the money goes to people who don't even do music

 

We need to stop supporting big labels and decentralize the whole market

 

Stans are a huge part of the problem since most only support exploited artists in big labels

 

Everything that comes from a huge label is already rotten behind the scenes

Totally agree with this

[Dolce Vita]

girl we know, that's why the majority of the people that break out either come from money or well connected backgrounds 

[AMIT]

the rich have always siphoned all the money to themselves, this isn't a new phenomenon.  and it will continue to happen as long as we live under capitalism. if you're against this (and everyone should be), you should also be against capitalism. no ifs or buts. 

[Mr.X]

14 hours ago, AMIT said:

the rich have always siphoned all the money to themselves, this isn't a new phenomenon.  and it will continue to happen as long as we live under capitalism. if you're against this (and everyone should be), you should also be against capitalism. no ifs or buts. 

oh I agree and I am a straight up communist at heart (and in practice!).

[Alaska.]

This is why we need to support small labels like Kesha Records. Don't forget to stream Joyride today

[JoeAg]

it's so depressing as an indie musician lol

 

and by indie I mean i'm unsigned and likely to stay that way for a long time  like yes, I was privileged as a child and I'm thankful I grew up in the environment I was lucky enough to grow up in but I wasn't lucky enough to have parents who'd actually fund the kind of music I WANT to make. my mom didn't believe in my songwriting! or my singing! she just believed in my double bass playing, and my classical training in that. I knew i wasn't gonna find work in orchestral bass playing, that's part of the reason I switched majors ffs. but like… being an indie musician is so stressful cause there's so much music out there on streaming and it's damn near impossible to make myself stand out in a way that'd be fruitful to my dream career. Dave spilled of course. I wish I could've had him discover me the way he discovered Kate back in the day  I've been writing music since I was 8 and i'm exhausted! but obviously i'm never giving up 

[XDNA]

Streaming needs to be restructured somehow and more needs to go to artists 

[Jay07]

21 hours ago, MatiRod said:

You don't make money from live either unless you're really big or getting a lot of big festival slots. Basically music is turning into something only trust fund kids or sugar babies can really do at a professional level unless you really break out. The middle class of musicians is disappearing fast.

Exactly. The big popstars we talk about here will be fine but we are losing the young bands and the artists who can't afford to support themselves while they exist in a medium level of success. So of course everything is becoming more boring and homogenized.

[Shinning]

But y'all keep praising Spotify streams that pay artists peanuts instead of purchasing their stuff though

[Polgg48]

it's about networking and studied from elite art school these days that got noticed and having their music out even they are talentless as cited as industry plants. the death of group bands in chart other than kpop bg/gg also stale various music to only certain portion of artists we've stuck for decade or two now. imo i rather blame public for consume same safe  music/artists while labels also desperate for all success to their rosters. 

[Mr.X]

2 hours ago, Polgg48 said:

it's about networking and studied from elite art school these days that got noticed and having their music out even they are talentless as cited as industry plants. the death of group bands in chart other than kpop bg/gg also stale various music to only certain portion of artists we've stuck for decade or two now. imo i rather blame public for consume same safe  music/artists while labels also desperate for all success to their rosters. 

This is an interesting point, as the public - specially the mainstream public - is only going to consume what they are fed by the big corporations. It's not like the GP has the mind to go hunt for smaller artists, most of them have no clue other than what they hear on the radio or on tik toks nowadays...

 

The issue here has always been the record lables and the bosses, im afraid...

[AMIT]

11 hours ago, Mr.X said:

oh I agree and I am a straight up communist at heart (and in practice!).

I know you from your posts in here, my comment was made more so in general but that wasn't exactly clear so my bad