AcidPrince Posted September 28 Posted September 28 1 hour ago, BrokenMachine said: What I said was mostly in Katy's favor. There's no point in comparing two albums from too different genres. But if we did, Gaga's jazz album outstreamed Katy's dance-pop album And? U told me Katy is Over. So, Gaga is over too? 2 1
BrokenMachine Posted September 28 Posted September 28 7 minutes ago, AcidPrince said: And? U told me Katy is Over. So, Gaga is over too? Quote me where I said 'Katy is over', quick
Yes, AND Posted September 28 Posted September 28 1 hour ago, BrokenMachine said: Yet you are the same ones who say ASIB Soundtrack doesn't count Well if ASIB counts this certainly should. Pick a side. 1
Yes, AND Posted September 28 Posted September 28 1 hour ago, BrokenMachine said: It's not a jazz album? Which genre it is? Enlighten us with your wisdom According to Gaga - "vintage pop"
UnusualBoy Posted September 28 Posted September 28 Y'all been claiming Katheryn to be over for 10 years and wonder why Stefani outstreamed her? Make it make sense
shimind Posted September 29 Posted September 29 7 hours ago, FolkLover1989 said: Doesn't gaga have #1 song in the world?? Why comparing to Katy??? Compare to her other successful peers Oh wait Bruno bagged that hit ,we will see soon with actual lead that song is posted on gaga's vevo channel not bruno so its her song actually.. With your logic Fornight is a post malone song with taylor swift as feature bum aa bihtches
Doctor Dick Posted September 29 Posted September 29 16 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: Well if ASIB counts this certainly should. Pick a side. Harlequin is a covers album with show tunes and jazz music. ASIB is an original album with pop songs. 47 minutes ago, AcidPrince said: And? U told me Katy is Over. So, Gaga is over too? If Gaga did 7 million with a cover album then she will do more with her next studio album, not less. Love For Sale did almost 4 million in total streams first week, Chromatica did 174 million. Even if Ariana was resonsible for half of those streams, it would still mean Gaga did over 2000 percent more than LFS. Cheek to Cheek sold 131,000 copies in its first week while Joanne did 201,000 copies, which is an over 53 percent increase. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that on average her regular studio projects do way more than her jazz ones. Now you're telling me she's going back to doing dark pop and she won't generate at least a 50 percent increase over the sales and streams of Harlequin? She's above Katy in either case.
spree Posted September 29 Posted September 29 1 minute ago, Doctor Dick said: ASIB is an original album with pop songs. are the pop songs in the room with us? 2
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 2 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Harlequin is a covers album with show tunes and jazz music. ASIB is an original album with pop songs. If Gaga did 7 million with a cover album then she will do more with her next studio album, not less. Love For Sale did almost 4 million in total streams first week, Chromatica did 174 million. Even if Ariana was resonsible for half of those streams, it would still mean Gaga did over 2000 percent more than LFS. Cheek to Cheek sold 131,000 copies in its first week while Joanne did 201,000 copies, which is an over 53 percent increase. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that on average her regular studio projects do way more than her jazz ones. Now you're telling me she's going back to doing dark pop and she won't generate at least a 50 percent increase over the sales and streams of Harlequin? She's above Katy in either case. IT has 2 new songs one of which is being pushed as a single.
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 Just now, spree said: are the pop songs in the room with us? It is the usual narrative. Play it down in case it underperforms. When it smashes its a Gaga album 1 1
Doctor Dick Posted September 29 Posted September 29 1 minute ago, Yes, AND said: IT has 2 new songs one of which is being pushed as a single. Well of course they'd push something but it's not being pushed to radio nor are they giving it a music video. It's just a song they want to push on streaming to further increase the potential but they would not be pushing it hard when the lead is supposed to come out, that would be stupid. 2 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: It is the usual narrative. Play it down in case it underperforms. When it smashes its a Gaga album Well, ASIB was just a soundtrack album but it smashed so of course why wouldn't her fanbase flaunt it? I could reverse it and say that had the album bombed OGH would be saying it's because of Gaga and that she's a flop? But when it smashes suddenly it's NOT because of Gaga? In either case, Harlequin is mostly just cover songs and jazz music. It's not what her fans want. It's like giving a Skittles to someone who's hungry for a steak. If you do not know how marketing works just own up to it. Lady Gaga's fanbase was made on pop music, dance pop at that. They are not going to support her jazz music in droves, especially not when it's covers.
Doctor Dick Posted September 29 Posted September 29 9 minutes ago, spree said: are the pop songs in the room with us? Shallow and Always Remember Us This Way are pop which is why they could be served to pop radio. None of the jazz songs can be. Then we have I'll Never Love Again which is a Whitney-esque pop ballad and Heal Me. The horrendous Why Did You Do That is supposed to be what? death metal? It was a pop album in its core, while Harlequin is not.
Jack! Posted September 29 Posted September 29 15 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: IT has 2 new songs one of which is being pushed as a single. None of the songs from Harlequin are being pushed as a single.
brazil Posted September 29 Posted September 29 (edited) Considering people were calling 143 the biggest flop ever by a MPG this is not a kii for gag and liddos Edited September 29 by brazil
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 1 minute ago, Jack! said: None of the songs from Harlequin are being pushed as a single. Happy mistake currently has a reach north of 75 million, which is 25 million more than Womans world peaked with. 2
Acidus Posted September 29 Posted September 29 7 hours ago, brutal said: When are Little Monsters going to stop picking on Katy so that they can make their fav look better? Katy has been over for over a decade now yet Little Monsters act like it's still 2011 and her and Gaga are neck and neck. Why you ask? Because they know that if they let the Katy comparison go they would have to compare Gaga to the actual heavy-hitter pop girls and suddenly all their "wins" against Katy turn into PATHETIC loses… Kitty Kats will continue to get brave and Liddos will continue to put them in their place as usual. Nothing new nothing changed
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 7 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Shallow and Always Remember Us This Way are pop which is why they could be served to pop radio. None of the jazz songs can be. Then we have I'll Never Love Again which is a Whitney-esque pop ballad and Heal Me. The horrendous Why Did You Do That is supposed to be what? death metal? It was a pop album in its core, while Harlequin is not. Happy mistake could easily go to pop.
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 10 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Shallow and Always Remember Us This Way are pop which is why they could be served to pop radio. None of the jazz songs can be. Then we have I'll Never Love Again which is a Whitney-esque pop ballad and Heal Me. The horrendous Why Did You Do That is supposed to be what? death metal? It was a pop album in its core, while Harlequin is not. Why you keep on texting me like that ?
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 17 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Well of course they'd push something but it's not being pushed to radio nor are they giving it a music video. It's just a song they want to push on streaming to further increase the potential but they would not be pushing it hard when the lead is supposed to come out, that would be stupid. Well, ASIB was just a soundtrack album but it smashed so of course why wouldn't her fanbase flaunt it? I could reverse it and say that had the album bombed OGH would be saying it's because of Gaga and that she's a flop? But when it smashes suddenly it's NOT because of Gaga? In either case, Harlequin is mostly just cover songs and jazz music. It's not what her fans want. It's like giving a Skittles to someone who's hungry for a steak. If you do not know how marketing works just own up to it. Lady Gaga's fanbase was made on pop music, dance pop at that. They are not going to support her jazz music in droves, especially not when it's covers. Well they didn't support Chromatica either so what now.
Doctor Dick Posted September 29 Posted September 29 3 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: Happy mistake currently has a reach north of 75 million, which is 25 million more than Womans world peaked with. Yes and they invested more because of Gaga's status being bigger than Katy's. If it was just money I'm sure Katy's label would've paid. Spotify was willing to give Gaga a broader playlisting because she's a bigger name. But it's not getting pushed anywhere else. 4 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: Happy mistake could easily go to pop. It could. But why send that song when they have the lead to her studio album coming out in just weeks?
Yes, AND Posted September 29 Posted September 29 1 minute ago, Doctor Dick said: Yes and they invested more because of Gaga's status being bigger than Katy's. If it was just money I'm sure Katy's label would've paid. Spotify was willing to give Gaga a broader playlisting because she's a bigger name. But it's not getting pushed anywhere else. It could. But why send that song when they have the lead to her studio album coming out in just weeks? If she is as big as you claim she could have dual songs.
Doctor Dick Posted September 29 Posted September 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yes, AND said: Well they didn't support Chromatica either so what now. But it still did waaaay better than Harlequin. And it wasn't DarkGa which is what Liddos are craving nor did it do itself any favors with its lead. It was still fairly supported by her fanbase though. Edited September 29 by Doctor Dick
Doctor Dick Posted September 29 Posted September 29 Just now, Yes, AND said: If she is as big as you claim she could have dual songs. She will already with DWAS but three songs at the same time pushed to radio? That won't work.
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