nadiamendell Posted September 25 Posted September 25 5 minutes ago, Vegvisir said: There are PLENTY of TERFs on the left. There are PLENTY of people spreading misinformation about trans health care on the left. There are PLENTY of people that want to limit gender affirming care for trans youth on the left. Can you give some examples of national politicians on the left that are spreading this misinformation? 1 5
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Did she make yet another video? Jesus Christ. Why does she think her opinion is that important, why is this so messy. 4 1
Communion Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, yonsé said: you *completely* disreguarded the fact that drag is a political art form and her erasing that Chappel Roan - who refused to sing at the White House due to the current administration's participation in genocide - is not "erasing the political intent of drag" by refusing to endorse your favorite cop politician who has destroyed the lives of trans women of color by locking them up indiscriminately and acting as a Republican when it comes to sex work. In fact, Roan's refusal to endorse Harris' deep right anti-feminist, anti-queer politics is very much in the political spirit of drag. No cops at pride includes Kamala. Drag queens and queer people don't have to endorse your top cop candidate or their right wing policies. Edited September 25 by Communion 5
Popular Post Radical Pessimism Posted September 25 Popular Post Posted September 25 (edited) These essays.. you guys need to log out and find a hobby especially you @Communion Edited September 25 by Radical Pessimism 16 7 6
Communion Posted September 25 Posted September 25 3 minutes ago, Radical Pessimism said: These essays.. you guys need to log out and find a hobby especially you @Communion You're crying cause a pop singer isn't door knocking for a politician with hundreds of millions of dollars in fundraising. These insane hot takes some of you are posting reveal that the only people who need a hobby are Blue MAGA types. I would recommend picking up phone banking. I think your candidate of choice may need it. 5
yonsé Posted September 25 Posted September 25 10 minutes ago, Communion said: Chappel Roan - who refused to sing at the White House due to the current administration's participation in genocide - is not "erasing the political intent of drag" by refusing to endorse your favorite cop politician who has destroyed the lives of trans women of color by locking them up indiscriminately and acting as a Republican when it comes to sex work. In fact, Roan's refusal to endorse Harris' deep right anti-feminist, anti-queer politics is very much in the political spirit of drag. No cops at pride includes Kamala. Drag queens and queer people don't have to endorse your top cop candidate or their right wing policies. for the third time in this thread, i have never said kamala was my favorite politician. this hyperbole is counterproductive to having any kind of good-faith argument. all of a sudden im a bootlicker because i find it problematic to be wishy-washy about the FACT that the right is much worse than the left. but y'all don't care and won't listen to anyone that doesn't agree with you. i criticized her for NOT condmening the right. and she didn't do that until this morning. so my point was not incorrect. you just refuse to see past your bias. 3 8 2 2
Thesedays Posted September 25 Posted September 25 35 minutes ago, Afterglow said: That's all you could muster out of that? Whew! When I say you genocide peddlars will absolutely win the Olympic Gold for "TUNNEL VISION". Yes, how dare we have "tunnel vision" to the genocide that killed 300k people in less than 1 year and is financed by US taxpayers and enabled and entirely financed by the current US admin. Can you pinpoint which genocide we should be focusing right now instead? Which one is ENTIRELY financed by the US and thus is ENTIRELY related to US politics? Can you tell me? 1 1
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted September 25 ATRL Moderator Posted September 25 7 minutes ago, Communion said: You're crying cause a pop singer isn't door knocking for a politician with hundreds of millions of dollars in fundraising. These insane hot takes some of you are posting reveal that the only people who need a hobby are Blue MAGA types. I would recommend picking up phone banking. I think your candidate of choice may need it. Nobody is upset that Chappell isn’t knocking on doors for Kamala and you know that. 2 4
Afterglow Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Thesedays said: Yes, how dare we have "tunnel vision" to the genocide that killed 300k people in less than 1 year and is financed by US taxpayers and enabled and entirely financed by the current US admin. Can you pinpoint which genocide we should be focusing right now instead? Which one is ENTIRELY financed by the US and thus is ENTIRELY related to US politics? Can you tell me? I already did sis can you not read my comments. In fact you missed the entire point furthering your entry into the Olympic FINALS for Tunnel Vision! Foh and simply learn to care about more than one thing but your self and this weaker than weak virtue signaling. Tunnel Vision indeed. You have absolutely no idea what's going on in the world other than this, nor do you care. You have absolutely no meaningful rebuttal. Goodbye Edited September 25 by Afterglow 1
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Not people with tens of thousands of posts of unhinged essays telling others to get a hobby. 3 2
drip drop Posted September 25 Posted September 25 i hope trump gets elected and you all will suffer miserably and then blame Chappell for that lolz 2
Vegvisir Posted September 25 Posted September 25 34 minutes ago, khalyan said: Nobody is upset that Chappell isn't knocking on doors for Kamala and you know that. Then what are they upset about? Truly. - She said she isn't voting for Trump - She said trans rights is the single most important issue for her this election - She said that it's more important to focus on who you're electing locally - and that she is going to vote for Kamala even though she doesn't endorse her entire platform. Literally all that's left to be mad about is that she isn't fully endorsing Kamala and campaigning for her. 1
AvadaKedavra Posted September 25 Posted September 25 2 minutes ago, Afterglow said: Its not tough at all. Vote for the person who is for the American people and will help our countries minorities and groups that deal with discrimination on the SYSTEMIC level. Vote for the person who isn't going to bring American womens rights back into the 1940's. Vote for the person who was not able and would not orchestrate a racially fueled insurrection on their own land. Vote for someone who quite literally is not a federal criminal. If you can't decide if you want to be complicit in destroying the livelihoods and safety of the Black, Asian, Hispanic, Jewish populations, LGBT and women of all groups in the United States (and abroad) then I could see where youre in a tough spot/dead end street. If i were american i would vote for kamala Even if the vote is stained in blood I think Trump is too dangerous for the States-West Europe-The Whole World-Latinoamerica (Putin puppet) Kamala has the backup of Taylor Swift and Olivia and Billie Eilish. The biggest stars from the GenZ. I dont see why chappel is relevant here. She's not that famous and now everyone hates her. Her vote is not helpful at all. Lets see if the youngsters are able to change the future. They will decide the future of everything Gen Z is your time.
Kesha Posted September 25 Posted September 25 People thinking only one side has issues are part of the problem…
Jay07 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 32 minutes ago, Vegvisir said: Then what are they upset about? Truly. - She said she isn't voting for Trump - She said trans rights is the single most important issue for her this election - She said that it's more important to focus on who you're electing locally - and that she is going to vote for Kamala even though she doesn't endorse her entire platform. Literally all that's left to be mad about is that she isn't fully endorsing Kamala and campaigning for her. I don't think anyone is upset at her other than the ridiculousness of her being on her third statement and second "clarification" now. Just get a publicist, girl. 3
ImpressMeMuch Posted September 25 Posted September 25 31 minutes ago, Jay07 said: I don't think anyone is upset at her other than the ridiculousness of her being on her third statement and second "clarification" now. Just get a publicist, girl. careful, if you say anything slightly critical about her you'll get labeled bLuE MaGa!!! 5
Acuminatus Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) Good for her that she made her stance very explicit in her latest (and hopefully final) video. If she had PR training, she could have been this clear from the start. 2 hours ago, Afterglow said: That's all you could muster out of that? Whew! When I say you genocide peddlars will absolutely win the Olympic Gold for "TUNNEL VISION". Stream Tunnel Vision by Magdalena Bay Edited September 25 by Acuminatus 2
family.guy123 Posted September 25 Posted September 25 1 hour ago, Jay07 said: Not people with tens of thousands of posts of unhinged essays telling others to get a hobby. I think both of them could probably use a recess to work it out on the playground.
Totami Legend Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Isn't the Democratic Party supporting Israel? Of course some people prefers to deflect all of that. This girl has more guts than Taylor and Beyoncé combined. 3 2
YellowRibbon Posted September 25 Posted September 25 So now, Ms "I love my Republican family members" Roan claims that she doesn't endorse Kamala for allegedly supporting genocide or attacks on queer rights while loving her very Republican uncle that happens to be a Republican state representative in Missouri (which is a state where the very queer rights she claims to advocate for are under attack). Interesting. 3 2 2
MonsterJohn Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Her new tiktok is as expected a self righteous words salat She really said Democrat policies would affect people like her, a rich white woman. I have to laugh. 2
Communion Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, khalyan said: Nobody is upset that Chappell isn't knocking on doors for Kamala and you know that. I'm sorry but it's clear that no one upset in this thread is actually certain or articulate in what they're upset about. In part because there's genuinely no legitimate reason to be upset. That any upset about this has no actual genuine confusion behind it or a real belief she is defending Republicans. And that this is just the current vehicle and outlet for anxious liberals to lash out over their fears that even Harris can only make her race against Trump a coin toss. This idea that somehow a pop star upset over genocide will influence people to vote for Trump and she will have some influence on the election and thus causing some claimed harm of Trump winning instead of the cost of losing being on the shoulders of Harris. 95% of the outrage is either Zionist bots or anxious liberals projecting their anxieties and lashing out over Kamala's own weaknesses. People who are confident and sure their candidate is good enough to win don't lash out at figures for simply not endorsing their candidate. I can't force myself to respect any of these attacks as done in good faith explicitly because I remember supporting Sanders in 2016 + 2020 and - like most of his supporters - pushing him and holding him accountable when he was criticized as coming up short when the criticisms *came from the left*. These conversations emerge from liberals' frustrations that they know Harris doesn't respect them enough to earn people's vote by moving left. There's really nothing else to it. Kamala is rebuking the left and liberals are thus lashing at the left cause lashing out at her would get them nowhere (and prove the criticisms right). Harris' supporters should inherently desire she be a better candidate, not resent people for not accepting less. Edited September 25 by Communion 1
thesegayz Posted September 25 Posted September 25 10 minutes ago, Communion said: I'm sorry but it's clear that no one upset in this thread is actually certain or articulate in what they're upset about. In part because there's genuinely no legitimate reason to be upset. That any upset about this has no actual genuine confusion behind it or a real belief she is defending Republicans. And that this is just the current vehicle and outlet for anxious liberals to lash out over their fears that even Harris can only make her race against Trump a coin toss. This idea that somehow a pop star upset over genocide will influence people to vote for Trump and she will have some influence on the election and thus causing some claimed harm of Trump winning instead of the cost of losing being on the shoulders of Harris. 95% of the outrage is either Zionist bots or anxious liberals projecting their anxieties and lashing out over Kamala's own weaknesses. People who are confident and sure their candidate is good enough to win don't lash out at figures for simply not endorsing their candidate. I can't force myself to respect any of these attacks as done in good faith explicitly because I remember supporting Sanders in 2016 + 2020 and - like most of his supporters - pushing him and holding him accountable when he was criticized as coming up short when the criticisms *came from the left*. These conversations emerge from liberals' frustrations that they know Harris doesn't respect them enough to earn people's vote by moving left. There's really nothing else to it. Kamala is rebuking the left and liberals are thus lashing at the left cause lashing out at her would get them nowhere (and prove the criticisms right). Harris' supporters should inherently desire she be a better candidate, not resent people for not accepting less. 2 2
JoJo Posted September 25 Posted September 25 (edited) Why are people still complaining? She's clarified her stance by saying she's voting for Kamala but not endorsing her, which is a completely valid. Keep in mind that Kamala's team literally used Chappell's music and aesthetics to promote her campaign these past few months, but apparently Chappell is not allowed to say what she truly thinks of her. And now people are smearing her as a Republican sympathizer. At this point, I think she needs a long break from the public for her own mental health. Edited September 25 by JoJo 1
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