discussion Bigger at their peak: Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian?

[Feanor]

 

The OG and her Successor.

 

But while I think everyone would agree that Kim Kardashian has eclipsed Paris Hilton in terms of longevity and overall fame & success, who do you think was bigger at their peak?

At the height of their respective fame, who was the bigger celebrity, who got more headlines & attention, who did the GP check for more?

 

[Daddy]

Kims empire is just huge compared to Paris. 

 

They have the same career, Kim just lasted longer and continues to stomp on Paris in every metric but music. 

[fa77ot]

Paris, sweetie

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

I feel like Paris was absolutely everywhere at one point. Also remember she didn't have social media to rely on.

[Click Clack]

kim easily lol

[Saintlor]

2 minutes ago, OnlyManInTheWorld said:

I feel like Paris was absolutely everywhere at one point. Also remember she didn't have social media to rely on.

Never understood this argument.

 

MrBeast gets hundreds of millions of views per video and has made hundreds of millions of dollars. Is someone like TV host Mario Lopez bigger just because he doesn't rely on social media? 
 

Social media is a tool to make people bigger. Taylor Swift is the biggest singer in the world now, she wouldn't be without TikTok and social media, but it doesn't mean she isn't the biggest singer.
 

OT: Kim is much bigger. 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Kim is way bigger. Let's not be delusional now. Paris was the OG, but she wasn't as global and her peak wasn't even half as long as Kim's. Lol

[Human Fly]

Paris sweetie….

[xfreshkidxx]

Kim by far. 

[wigglytuffer]

Hard to answer because I was a kid when Paris was the IT girl of the world and a teenager when it was Kim so my recency bias would say Kim. Undeniable influence on beauty standards globally and leveraging the power of social media. I feel like everything Kim did was a meticulous calculation in order for her to be a household name (and that's no shade, she wanted to be the most famous woman in the world and she became it)

 

However, Paris is the blueprint of famous for being famous. She didn't need to be famous so it feels less forced with Paris, I think a lot of us won't really understand Paparazzi waiting for hours on end at the mere chance of seeing Paris in a night club because we're used to consuming celebrity-owned social media accounts now. The era of picking up a gossip magazine and getting all your info is long gone because of that, but Paris basically kept these magazines in business for years on end. She was being flown all over the world and paid before she was even 18 to attend the openings of new casinos, hotels, etc because people knew that Paris would draw headlines.

 

Kim's peak was bigger because the Kardashian family name and brand completely threw themselves into being famous at whatever means neccessaery whereas i think the Hilton name didn't necessarily want to be known for just being famous, but more for their business

[Cain]

Kim, by far

[okgo]

Kim, but one could argue Paris directly paved the way for her/Kim wouldn't be a thing without her

not necessarily a good thing though 

[Breathe On Moi]

Paris was already a brand then she released a sex video to spice things up.

 

Kim had to release a sex video to become anyone beyond just Paris's assistant.

 

Paris wins

[Harsh2256]

Kim was bigger worldwide and in the states.

[Saintlor]

15 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

Paris was already a brand then she released a sex video to spice things up.

 

Kim had to release a sex video to become anyone beyond just Paris's assistant.

 

Paris wins

But just because Kim released a tape to become more famous, it doesn't invalidate her level of fame. 

 

This is a topic for who's bigger, not why they're famous.

[Breathe On Moi]

9 minutes ago, Saintlor said:

But just because Kim released a tape to become more famous, it doesn't invalidate her level of fame. 

 

This is a topic for who's bigger, not why they're famous.

to be fair, Kim has always been a hungry hungry tiger, so. 

[Migs]

If it weren't for Paris, Kim would've never become somebody, so I guess that answers your question. 

Edited September 18 by Migs

[Dolce Vita]

the kardashian imperial phase is over but kim was like the definition of the student outshining the master. she was able to go further than paris ever did 

Edited September 18 by Dolce Vita

[jeffersonairplanes19]

Kim and the rest of the Kardashian/Jenners have a longevity that Paris didn't. Even tho the Kardashians imperial phase is over they are still relevant celebrities in way Paris isn't. Kim is still seen as a relevant current celebrity whereas Paris while she is seeing something of a rebirth now is generally seen as a product of the early to mid 2000s. 

[Abracadabra]

I would say Kim as she basically took Paris's business model but had the perspective on how to make it last longer and reach higher heights.

[laqqinq]

Well, who has 2 top-10 albums and a top-10 single? /j

 

It's Kim, according to me. I was extremely young when the Kardashians debuted in the TV world. So I obviously didn't "experience" or "live" in consciousness through the Paris Hilton mania days.

 

The Kim peak period would be 2013/2014 to 2018/2019? KUWTK was at its peak, she had that mobile game that was a big success, her beauty and fragrance brands were also big successes and were among the hyped or "it" products in the YouTube/social media beauty community/circles/content creators. She also had that Dash brand with her sisters and that photo book which made headlines. High-profile relationship with Kanye West and Skims was launched in 2019 - her biggest business venture/brand till date.

 

Kim (as the first-mover of the clan, and along with  Kris Jenner, I'd say) successfully parlayed her sex tape/Paris Hilton's friend hype and her family's reality TV fame into multiple brands/businesses, social media/TV fame, influence on "beauty standards" and the brand of the family and individually of the sisters that revolves around them as personas.

 

As we've seen so far, Kim has had longevity. 

 

Though we cannot deny that Paris Hilton is/was the original "influencer", the biggest fixture of the late-night LA club scene at a time, tabloids in the 2000s, and had a successful reality show with Nicole Richie. She had a successful song in "Stars are Blind" and her debut album went top 10. She eventually moved to DJing and tied her name to/delved into different products and areas like clothing, accessories, metaverse, documentaries, etc. Her perfumes have made over $2.5 billion in global sales.

 

Kim feels/seems like a more internationally known name then and now. Paris, to me, feels more US-centric, or maybe it is just now.

 

I would say Kim was bigger during her peak, but Paris's peak of her time was not something many had seen before her, nevertheless. Both icons are exploring new areas in their careers. Kim is moving ahead with acting projects and Paris has made a return to music.

 

 

[Minto]

kim was far more global, paris was very us centric.

[Saddy]

Paris

[MatiRod]

Honestly Paris circa 2005-2007. Aside from reality TV she was in major movies (House of Wax) and somehow managed to get a Top 10 album with a legit WW hit song ("Stars are Blind"). She was so famous she started to bleed into other more established areas of Hwood. Kim is equally famous but she never got to the point where anyone was seriously considering her as a potential pop star or actress, her fame has always felt restricted to being reality TV/social media/tabloid famous.

Edited September 22 by MatiRod

[Bencharmer]

Don't let 2000's nostalgia fools you, Kim's empire is insane.

 

They are like the flu and the covid19 of celebrities tho but well....