50thStateofMind Posted September 17 Posted September 17 (edited) why is everyone a hungry bottom for country fans?? bottom feeders. Please stop catering to this racist genre...and I mean everyone Edited September 17 by 50thStateofMind 2
Strawberry Bubble Posted September 17 Posted September 17 31 minutes ago, Into The Void said: Dolly is usually open minded so this confuses me This is actually a very open-minded answer, lol. I expected everyone to defend Beyoncé. 1
chaklux Posted September 17 Posted September 17 (edited) No one is saying she must win but she deserves at least one nomination, even is she doesn't win . Cowboy Carter might not have performed as well as expected but it's still one of the biggest country album this year , Texas Hold 'Em is one of the biggest country songs this year. So yes, from both commercial and critical point of view , she deserve at least one nomination even if she doesn't win. Edited September 17 by chaklux
Archetype Posted September 17 Posted September 17 (edited) She's right tho. It's like some of ya'll think her sudden experimentation in a new genre makes her worth being nominated. Edited September 17 by Archetype 6 1 1
UnusualBoy Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Her response is very diplomatic and at same time shocking considering she's featured in it.
BrattyBottom Posted September 17 Posted September 17 She's not entirely wrong You all do way too much on that lady, same way barbs do with...that lady. She explored a sound that had some elements of country, bluegrass and americana. It's very hard to put CC in a box and that's not really a bad thing Remember Kacey and star-crossed not getting noms in country categories? They all said NO to that album because it wasn't country enough lol, despite her being a country artist. Award shows are messes anyway and you all take them too seriously.
Joey307 Posted September 17 Posted September 17 11 minutes ago, mons†er said: With a Katy P avi you would understand what it means to flop. Especially when Katy hasn't had even a top 30 hit after 3 releases from a new album. Remember, Beyonce went number #1 this year with a song AND album. And yet both her #1 song and #1 album are flops in the long run. Katy Perry flopping worse isn't really a flex in this day and age
chaklux Posted September 17 Posted September 17 27 minutes ago, AmericanIdol said: Dolly is RIGHT The way Beyonce fans think she needs to get nominated for everything She's not a country artist, her album flopped after the second week and nobody listens to it anymore. There are far superior country artists than her that deserve their nominations. Her flop album still performed better commercially than some of the albums nominated. Texas Hold 'Em is bigger hit than some of the songs nominated. No one is saying she must win, but she deserves to be nominated please. 2
Pheromosa Posted September 17 Posted September 17 I think she means well, but I don't even think Beyonce submitted the album because in the first place. Especially considering how they're the reason she made the album was made. Unless this was the plan to get the awards dragged one last time as a parting shot. *tinfoil hat off*
mons†er Posted September 17 Posted September 17 1 minute ago, Joey307 said: And yet both her #1 song and #1 album are flops in the long run. Katy Perry flopping worse isn't really a flex in this day and age Both are platinum, when was Katy's last platinum plaque? Quickly. 1
Joey307 Posted September 17 Posted September 17 2 minutes ago, mons†er said: Both are platinum, when was Katy's last platinum plaque? Quickly. Did you miss the part where I said 4 minutes ago, Joey307 said: Katy Perry flopping worse isn't really a flex in this day and age Reading is critical luv
chaklux Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Regarding the part she said some artists have been doing this their whole life , hence deserve to be nominated. That's what life time achievement is for. Most awards categories are simply based on events within a particular year. Song of the year, so so of the year, etc. just because you've been doing it for 20 years doesn't make you more deserving if you are outperformed by a relatively new artist.
Braz Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Country legend Miranda Lambert was also snubbed by the CMAs and like Beyoncé, her lead single failed to reach top 30 on Country radio. Is there any pushback to her snubs? Obv not. 4
Joey307 Posted September 17 Posted September 17 4 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said: Stfu white old hag Dolly is a country legend but yeah pretend her opinion is worthless 1
Hexchromatica Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Time to strike a match and light up this juke joint 1
The Next Day Posted September 17 Posted September 17 Y'all can never make me hate Dolly, but I think her well-meaning comment shows how deep the gatekeeping of country runs in its history. Dolly even herself can't explain it properly. Bey opened her album stating that she is country enough to do country music. You don't have much of these discussions in other genres. Artists like Post Malone have recently explored genres from hip-hop to rap to pop to rock to country and he doesn't have to explain himself like Bey does. Cowboy Carter is a burden to the CMAs cause it really opens a wound that has been there since the genre's inception and it's not adressed properly. Dolly isn't shy to be political, but if even she doesn't know how to describe the inherent tension within the genre, you know it's serious. 5 1
shyboi Posted September 17 Posted September 17 she said a bunch of nothing but I sort of understand the message, can't say I agree tho
Braz Posted September 17 Posted September 17 11 minutes ago, The Next Day said: Y'all can never make me hate Dolly, but I think her well-meaning comment shows how deep the gatekeeping of country runs in its history. Dolly even herself can't explain it properly. Bey opened her album stating that she is country enough to do country music. You don't have much of these discussions in other genres. Artists like Post Malone have recently explored genres from hip-hop to rap to pop to rock to country and he doesn't have to explain himself like Bey does. Cowboy Carter is a burden to the CMAs cause it really opens a wound that has been there since the genre's inception and it's not adressed properly. Dolly isn't shy to be political, but if even she doesn't know how to describe the inherent tension within the genre, you know it's serious. When Post was snubbed from Rap or Pop categories at the Grammys, no one would complain like he's owed something, despite huge success.
ShouldersSideways Posted September 17 Posted September 17 This issue is a lot more complex than most of you are allowing for. There's undeniable racism in the industry but there's also a lot of gatekeeping toward white artists who try and dabble in it, too. Add Beyonce to the mix with the way she's already a lightning rod for conversations like this and there's not a clear, simple answer. That some of you want to reduce what Dolly said down to a simple rejection of Beyonce is telling of your intentions, though. 4 8
The Next Day Posted September 17 Posted September 17 4 minutes ago, Braz said: When Post was snubbed from Rap or Pop categories at the Grammys, no one would complain like he's owed something, despite huge success. This isn't just about nominations. Post can switch genres as he pleases without suffering backlash. Beyoncé received backlash for singing at the CMAs. No one questions whether Post (or other artists) are "hip-hop", "pop", "rock" or "country" enough to explore tjose genres, but Beyoncé or that Kacey Musgraves album that was mentioned somehow don't have that privilege, despite having the strong support of other artists. I think country is really unique in the way that the gatekeeping is very strong, much stronger than in other very popular genres. 1
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