surprisecentres Posted September 13 Posted September 13 Quote Early this summer, Amin Abed, a Palestinian activist who has spoken out publicly about Hamas, twice found bullets on his doorstep in northern Gaza. Then in July, he said he was attacked by Hamas security operatives, who covered his head and dragged him away before repeatedly striking him with hammers and metal bars. "At any moment, I can be killed by the Israeli occupation, but I can face the same fate at the hands of those who've been ruling us for 17 years," he said in a phone interview from his hospital bed, referring to Hamas. "They almost killed me, those killers and criminals." Mr. Abed, who remains hospitalized, was rescued by bystanders who witnessed the attack, but what happened to him has happened to others throughout Gaza. Sick sick barbaric animals! full story on NYT here 3 4 4 37
Tovitov Posted September 13 Posted September 13 (edited) You're going to get downvoted even though Hamas isn't some group of resistance fighters trying to protect their homes. Sinwar and the Hamas leadership don't want a ceasefire. Sinwar upped his demands after the six hostages were killed because he thinks that improved his hand in negotiations. But Netanyahu doesn't give a crap about the hostages. Why I've lost all hope for a ceasefire. Edit: You guys are free to downvote me all you want but I'm not defending Israel. Pointing out that Sinwar is also an evil piece of **** shouldn't be controversial. Edited September 13 by Tovitov 13 5 22
Popular Post Almighty Gaga Posted September 13 Popular Post Posted September 13 How terrorists US & Israel use brutality to murder tens of thousands of children 13 26
surprisecentres Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 1 minute ago, Tovitov said: You're going to get downvoted even though Hamas isn't some group of resistance fighters trying to protect their homes. Sinwar and the Hamas leadership don't want a ceasefire. Sinwar upped his demands after the six hostages were killed because he thinks that improved his hand in negotiations. But Netanyahu doesn't give a crap about the hostages. Why I've lost all hope for a ceasefire. You're so right. The people on this website don't care about Palestinians, they just care about virtue signalling 15 6 1 31
Popular Post gatito Posted September 13 Popular Post Posted September 13 netanyahoo is that you with an atrl account? 18 1
réveuse Posted September 13 Posted September 13 It's absolutely horrible what happened to him. I hope this man is okay. However, Israel and their war crimes are an unmatched evil. 7 3 3
surprisecentres Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 3 minutes ago, Almighty Gaga said: How terrorists US & Israel use brutality to murder tens of thousands of children You might wanna change your username https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-israel-comments-6266598/amp/ 21
bielneira Posted September 13 Posted September 13 Isn't that how any terrorist in the world maintain their power (U.S. and Israel included)? What's new? 1
Antisocialites Posted September 13 Posted September 13 (edited) 8 minutes ago, surprisecentres said: You might wanna change your username https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-israel-comments-6266598/amp/ thanks for proving you don't care about any of this. hopefully you get banned soon. Edited September 13 by Antisocialites 12 2
Popular Post 50thStateofMind Posted September 13 Popular Post Posted September 13 Hamas is EVIL and so is Netanyahu. 22 2
JO1s Posted September 13 Posted September 13 12 minutes ago, surprisecentres said: You're so right. The people on this website don't care about Palestinians, they just care about virtue signalling 8 minutes ago, surprisecentres said: You might wanna change your username https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-israel-comments-6266598/amp/ You can't make this **** up... 3
Tovitov Posted September 13 Posted September 13 8 minutes ago, surprisecentres said: You might wanna change your username https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/lady-gaga-israel-comments-6266598/amp/ You leave Gaga out of this 2
Bhabylon Posted September 13 Posted September 13 Okay??? And Israel is still evil. Do you want a scooby snack or what 1
Popular Post Edonis Posted September 13 Popular Post Posted September 13 No o9ffense, but Palestinians were getting carpet-bombed before Hamas was established, just as they are getting carpet-bombed years after. Allegiance to one group or another, with some being worse than others, isn't changing the reality that Israel uses indiscriminate force to murder innocent civilians. Israeli politicians and the IOF does not care or value Palestinian life on the basis of religious and ethnic superiority. That is flat out not up for debate. Furthermore, you're never going to find western governments supporting groups like Hamas en masse, so expecting pro-Palestinian to "condemn Hamas" is moot. Hamas is not getting the aid and defense support like you think it is. This thread is yet another pointless attempt at de-legitimizing criticism at Israel and support of Palestinians. 5 14 1
Communion Posted September 13 Posted September 13 37 minutes ago, Tovitov said: Sinwar and the Hamas leadership don't want a ceasefire. ? 4
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 13 ATRL Administrator Posted September 13 The day when Hamas is eradicated, the IDF members face war crime tribunal and Bibi is UNDER the jail will be a day when peace is achieved. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. 8 7
surprisecentres Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 6 minutes ago, Ryan said: The day when Hamas is eradicated, the IDF members face war crime tribunal and Bibi is UNDER the jail will be a day when peace is achieved. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. I was with you until the genocidal last sentence. 1 2 1 24
family.guy123 Posted September 13 Posted September 13 The "winner" of the "war" won't be determined by who makes the most threads in case y'all didn't know. If you're banned from the magathread it's for a reason otherwise shouldn't this be there. 1
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 14 ATRL Administrator Posted September 14 32 minutes ago, surprisecentres said: I was with you until the genocidal last sentence. It’s not genocidal. Palestinians have a right to be free and not forced to live in restricted areas. 11 1 1
Mezik Posted September 14 Posted September 14 Zionist Israelis and Israel are even more disgusting than Hamas. 3 2
byzantium Posted September 14 Posted September 14 This post is giving, "but…but… what about black on black crime!" energy,
Headlock Posted September 14 Posted September 14 6 minutes ago, 4th Time Around said: I got downvoted to hell and falsely labeled a zionist previously for pointing out the obvious fact that Hamas is a brutal terrorist organization that abuses the people it rules over, advocates genocide in it's charter, crushes womens rights, persecutes the lgbtq community and massacres innocent civilians in the name of liberation One can be a supporter of a ceasefire and despise the actions of the IDF and government of Israel while also recognizing that Hamas is a group of murderous thugs who don't actually want two states or a ceasefire. They have literally stated they will keep doing **** like October 7 on numerous occasions even if a ceasefire is negotiated. The existence of Israel suits Hamas because they justify their ironfisted rule over Gaza as a struggle of liberation and self determination You mean the comments where you said this: Quote I am no supporter of the government of Israel but there is a lot of self righteous moral grandstanding when it comes to this stuff and I am shocked that certain elements of the left have embraced a brutal and oppressive terrorist group that stands contrary to all leftists believe in and wants to use innocent Palestinian civilians as human shields Quote God forbid that I don't approve of terrorists persecuting the lgbtq community, restricting womens rights, slaughtering thousands of civilians attending a concert in the name of liberation and using the money sent to them by the west to build terror tunnels and enrich themselves rather than using it to help the people of Palestine. You try to have a reasonable and civil discussion about a topic on this site and you get downvoted and name called for no reason by radicals who fail to look at these situations in nuanced ways And then deleted them all like a coward? Stop with the ~civil discussion~ act, nobody is buying it. 4 2
Capris Groove Posted September 14 Posted September 14 (edited) This A vs B false dichotomy that ATRL has on this issue is the exact tribal mentality that ensures war continues to be as essential to the human condition as water. It floors me that we've advanced in so many ways but we have the exact primitive mindset to war as we did 4000 years ago. The IDF and Hamas are both terrible. A thread stating that one is terrible doesn't need to be down voted because it doesn't mean the other side isn't also terrible. Stop with the black and white thinking. Edited September 14 by Capris Groove 4 9 5
Headlock Posted September 14 Posted September 14 32 minutes ago, 4th Time Around said: I care about preventing more Palestinians from dying in a horrible conflict, Mhm, yes that was evidenced by the very original "human shields" and "underground tunnels" argument 1
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