celeb news 20% of hard drives used for music storage in the 90s have failed

[Moloko Plus]

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About a fifth of the hard drives it receives from the media industry for service are completely dead, said enterpriseinformation management company Iron Mountain, which specializes in records management, information destruction, data backup, and data recovery. This means information contained within those drives — including studio masters, live sessions, and everything in between — could be lost forever unless the recording label has backed up the missing data in another storage drive or medium.

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However, just like tape, hard drives also deteriorate — with most commercial drives rated to last for only three to five years. Even if you store them in the most optimum condition, you'll find that even drives designed for archival storage will eventually die. Unfortunately, most often, the only time that a studio will open its archives is if it needs to look for original masters for commercial use. If it has waited too long, then it might be too late to recover the drive that it needs, resulting in the loss of all the information contained within.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/twenty-percent-of-hard-drives-used-for-long-term-music-storage-in-the-90s-have-failed

 

Super SAD news! Thinking of all my favorite 90s album that this could possibly affect when it comes to reissues/rereleases…

[Saint James]

Madonna reissues cancelled

[KillingYourCareer]

What a bunch of flopped disks

[Sugar-Rush]

Floppy disks, indeed.

[piotrert]

is this surprising? dvds i burned 15 years ago are long time dead now

[Princess Aurora]

They should upload them all on YouTube 

[pisuke]

Between this and all the fires that destroyed millions of tapes in the vaults... 

[NoOneDiesFromLove]

Just use the cloud 

 

[Junipero]

This is called "digital decay" where items are lost forever. The internet is NOT forever. I was trying to see some pictures form a forum that were posted from like 2009, and the photos are all gone because photbucket changed their business model :(. Similar things happen where MySpace practically lost a lot of user data by accident or something, so alot of user photos are gone. Same stuff happens on twitter when someone deletes a tweet or an account is suspended.

 

Kind of funny but the original Moon landing tapes are gone and all we have are tv recordings of it; we could have had 8K remastered video of the moon landing

It makes me wonder what highly prized song will be "lost" due to carelessness and all we will have are just whatever is on the internet and not the actual master recordings.

 

Edited September 13 by Junipero

[Burn]

This is our Library of Alexandria

[Sawk]

Artists should go back to recording with analog and preserving in fire proof spaces 

[dumbsparce]

I'm not a tech person like that but is there a more efficient and safe way of storing your data?? Cause transfering them from hard drive to hard drive every 3 years sounds exhausting. No wonder Lana has had thousands of leaks over the years.

[Junipero]

3 minutes ago, Sawk said:

Artists should go back to recording with analog and preserving in fire proof spaces 

I think analog tapes decay, I remember Trevor Horn(who produced a lot of hit songs in the 80's) said that he likes digital because analog tapes get distorted over time.

[xokuba]

27 minutes ago, Saint James said:

Madonna reissues cancelled

If only they even started 

Edited September 13 by xokuba

[Junipero]

1 minute ago, dumbsparce said:

I'm not a tech person like that but is there a more efficient and safe way of storing your data?? Cause transfering them from hard drive to hard drive every 3 years sounds exhausting. No wonder Lana has had thousands of leaks over the years.

You are supposed to back up the data in two places. So like photos on your phone is considered 1 place, and maybe having it in iCloud is another place. However, even then, there was a recent incident where Google accidentally deleted a Google Cloud account of a pension fund worth $125 billion; luckily the company had other backups that were not on Google.

But yeah, i mean, solidstate drives on cell phones and modern laptops will break down too.

[Moloko Plus]

11 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

I'm not a tech person like that but is there a more efficient and safe way of storing your data?? Cause transfering them from hard drive to hard drive every 3 years sounds exhausting. No wonder Lana has had thousands of leaks over the years.

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Thankfully, researchers have continually been working on many different archival storage media that are more reliable than hard drives and even solid-state drives (which only have a limited number of reads and writes). We've even seen a startup working on archival glass storage that it claims could last 5,000 years. However, until the arrival of these media at affordable prices, the only thing that we can do to ensure the integrity of our data archives is to completely rewrite them to newer media with backups every three to five years.

 

[Buffy]

Do people not backup all their information on 20 hard drives? No? Just me? I learned the hard way 20 years ago when my hard drive died on me. I honestly should've kept the hard drive and used it as a paper weight because the tech geeks today can restore it when it wasn't possible 20 years ago. Technology is a blessing and a curse. It only gets better with time.

[Sawk]

36 minutes ago, Junipero said:

I think analog tapes decay, I remember Trevor Horn(who produced a lot of hit songs in the 80's) said that he likes digital because analog tapes get distorted over time.

Oh wow, all this time i thought analog tapes were better

[harwee]

If they want us to hear them they would have already released them.

 

The rest, they want to rot and pretend never happened.

 

 

 

[TipToe]

13 minutes ago, Buffy said:

Do people not backup all their information on 20 hard drives? No? Just me? I learned the hard way 20 years ago when my hard drive died on me. I honestly should've kept the hard drive and used it as a paper weight because the tech geeks today can restore it when it wasn't possible 20 years ago. Technology is a blessing and a curse. It only gets better with time.

I didn't because a hard drive was expensive here where i live, so generally people having more storage disks/pen drivers were mostly working with TI. It was unusual for the average home computer user. But that's an interesting topic since we take all those cloud options for granted as if servers are equally intangible and meant to last forever but every data depends on structure that may really well go awry and be lost just like *that*. 20% isn't even a surprising figure tho, i never had any physical data saved for a long time.

[Rush]

That's what Rihanna has been using to store R9

[MatiRod]

This is something I think about. Will Spotify be around in 50 years? Where will my masters be stored at that point? Technically Warner distributes them, but what if they're not around? Or bought up by a different company and they delete part of their data to save money on server storage fees. CDs and vinyls degrade over time. Let me etch the sheet music onto a cave wall bc at least that **** lasts thousands of years.

[SupremeGoddess]

Whatever Avex gay japanese intern ***** is withholding the flop disks with Namie Amuros music better hold onto them with dear life because I will go mental if i can never listen to her again now that she isn't on streaming 

[dumbsparce]

1 hour ago, MatiRod said:

This is something I think about. Will Spotify be around in 50 years? Where will my masters be stored at that point? Technically Warner distributes them, but what if they're not around? Or bought up by a different company and they delete part of their data to save money on server storage fees. CDs and vinyls degrade over time. Let me etch the sheet music onto a cave wall bc at least that **** lasts thousands of years.

Call up Halsey so she can contract you some synesthesia. That way you'll be able to take polaroids of your songs and store them forever.

[AvadaKedavra]

I have like 1 terabytes of files in laptop, a copy of that in another one. One in the desktop. One in a hard drive
and once i have money i have plans to buy tons of them   i also have a big collection of multitrack recordings from all my faves.