ATRL Administrator Popular Post Ryan Posted September 12 ATRL Administrator Popular Post Posted September 12 Whew, the tea was PIPING. I don’t think Russian plant Jill Stein was ready for that truth. 15 5 3
DAP Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Meh, these third party campaigns aren't designed to win but to agitate the political establishment. Low hanging fruit. Plenty of things to criticize Jill about and this isn't one of them. 1 4 2
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 12 Author ATRL Administrator Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, DAP said: Meh, these third party campaigns aren't designed to win but to agitate the political establishment. Low hanging fruit. Plenty of things to criticize Jill about and this isn't one of them. The fact that she chooses to be a spoiler who persuades low information voters that she can win President when her people can’t even win local races is something to criticize her for. 1 13 2
Mean Trees Posted September 12 Posted September 12 If I want the latest tea on Diddy's degenerate ways I'll go to them, other than that they can hush.
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted September 12 Author ATRL Administrator Posted September 12 13 minutes ago, Mean Trees said: If I want the latest tea on Diddy's degenerate ways I'll go to them, other than that they can hush. She came to them. They have every right to call out a liar. 1
DAP Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Ryan said: The fact that she chooses to be a spoiler who persuades low information voters that she can win President when her people can't even win local races is something to criticize her for. Well consider that state parties suppress third party leadership even in local elections, let alone a presidential election. That's a clear indictment of the dominant parties and our political system than it is of her or any other challenging third party candidate. Edited September 12 by DAP 3 1
Rep2000 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 28 minutes ago, DAP said: Meh, these third party campaigns aren't designed to win but to agitate the political establishment. Low hanging fruit. Plenty of things to criticize Jill about and this isn't one of them. Even the Green Party in the UK manages to win elections before Jill's Green Party does. She's a complete joke at worst, an election groundhog at best. 1 2 1
State of Grace. Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Hmm I wonder why. Could it be that the Democrats have been trying to sue them off of ballots for years? Your entire political system is ****** up. Pretending like you don't know why third-parties don't win is funny. 4 9
Communion Posted September 12 Posted September 12 "AOC was right about the Green Party, they don't try to win local elections" Also AOC: 3 1
Rep2000 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Dancehall Queen said: Another senile 70s year old who needs to drop out of politics decades ago. Even bloody Biden knows to step down and let other take the lead. 1
Blankspace2010 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 14 minutes ago, Dancehall Queen said: She's more embarrassing than Trump
Mezik Posted September 12 Posted September 12 The fact some people will really rather a Trump presidency by voting for Stein over Harris... 4 3
Mr. Mendes Posted September 13 Posted September 13 It's honestly crazy to me that the Green Party has an overall well rounded platform that aims for good, achievable change but they have picked one of the absolute worst people they could have to be the representative of it. I truly believe more people would be receptive to listening to the platform if it was coming from anyone other than Jill Stein.
Mr. Mendes Posted September 13 Posted September 13 8 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Hmm I wonder why. Could it be that the Democrats have been trying to sue them off of ballots for years? Your entire political system is ****** up. Pretending like you don't know why third-parties don't win is funny. It is ****** up. I don't think there's a lot here who wish to deny that. As I said above, I personally really like the Green's platform and what they strive to do, and I believe they want to do it in very achievable ways. I also understand their intention to be agitators and force a change in the system to allow room for third parties to be serious components of an election cycle. The real sticking point here is Jill herself. She is not the one who ought to be the face of the party because she herself is an absolutely out of touch, head in space, incredibly unlikable candidate with a real communication problem, especially in a place where she's being challenged. I'd love to see the Greens actually get the chance to rise but I'm sorry, you can't tell me that even if all of the restrictions and meddling the big parties do to keep third parties away that the Greens would do any better right now with Jill at the head of the table. She is not the one, and i honestly think the voters who do more align with the Greens need to be a little more vocal about that. 1
Thesedays Posted September 13 Posted September 13 5 hours ago, XDNA said: Grifters must grift their suckers, I guess. Even if Jill Stein was a "grifter," that's still nowhere near as bad as being a literally genocide enabler.
Thesedays Posted September 13 Posted September 13 9 hours ago, Rep2000 said: Even the Green Party in the UK manages to win elections before Jill's Green Party does. She's a complete joke at worst, an election groundhog at best. "Even the Green Party in the UK"? What a moronic point. No **** a third-party in a parliamentarian system manages to win seats, huh? Now, is the US a parliamentarian system? It isn't. So yes, a third-party victory in the US is much, much more difficult to achieve so "even in the UK" makes you sound really stupid. 1
Rep2000 Posted September 13 Posted September 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thesedays said: "Even the Green Party in the UK"? What a moronic point. No **** a third-party in a parliamentarian system manages to win seats, huh? Now, is the US a parliamentarian system? It isn't. So yes, a third-party victory in the US is much, much more difficult to achieve so "even in the UK" makes you sound really stupid. You mean as moronic as Jill's nonexistent grassroots movement to get her third-party members to even win county elections? All she does is popping her head out of the ground every 4 years, with no solid platforms beside "**** Kamala Harris". As a political party leader, she uplifts no one but herself in the span of 12 years. 12 bloody ******* years! You can rant "third party suppression" all you want, you can rant that ad nauseam until the cows come home. But try naming one political act that she does *outside* of an election year, quickly. Maybe even midterm? Comparing her party to the UK one is truly moronic I give you that, because they actually work for it all year round and introduce actual changes to their constituents, something Jill doesn't know what that means in over a decade. Her being the Green leader actually *helps* maintaining the 2 party status quo considering how terrible she is. Her defending of Russia invading Ukraine, her siding with RFK Jn (who turns out to be another Trumpster), her headbutting with other progressives and acting like the de facto leader of the movement *unchallenged*. This woman who has a history of peddling conspiracy theories about the Syrian Civil War. Whose running mate in 2016 was Ajuma Baraka, a man who believes Assad is the legitimate, democratically elected president of Syria and who called the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 a false flag. A woman who has a history of soft peddling anti-vaxx bullshit. You know what, I'm sick and tired of dragging this unserious lady. Anyone who follows politics AND doesn't have a blind spot with the size of Russia and China combined can tell you how shady and ineffective Jill Stein is. But sure, you do you. Edited September 13 by Rep2000 3 2
Communion Posted September 13 Posted September 13 2 hours ago, Rep2000 said: believes Assad I wonder if people who make this framing realize they're arguing for...American regime change. You're quite literally arguing that Jill Stein not believing it is America's right to remove foreign leaders for power is support for said leaders. So be honest in what you're trying to say. You're arguing that Obama should have invaded Syria and performed regime change. I'm not sure that is a stance that's actually defensible when not said behind in hushed whispers or innuendo.
IBelonginYourArms Posted September 13 Posted September 13 How is this nasty trash not as criticized as any typical right-wing grifter? She's an equal grifter who hides behind leftism while stanning the same Syrian and Russian dictators like Trump boys on twitter Basically an ancient version of Jackson Hinkle who used to be a "leftist" and a Bernie supporter. Drag her hypocritical ass!
FOCK Posted September 13 Posted September 13 (edited) There's truly no hope for Americants. You viscerally recoil & are even enraged, when confronted by the possibility of something better. You sabotage & mock your revolutionary thinkers & the ones you can't, you kill - then bastardise the spirit of their message into something more palatable, give them a "day" or a chapter in a book, pat yourself on the back & call it "culture". You dismiss progress, fear change, and cling to the abusive familiar, like a traumatised child refusing to grow up, just parroting what Mumma 'murica and Uncle Sam feed you - and with such self-assured arrogance, too. You'd sell your humanity for a dollar. You don't even want to seek more for yourself. Locked in the fear of losing what you think you have, you don't recognise that more is always being taken away from you, regardless. In fact, you love to feed the beast. You defend it with your soul. It is your entire being and identity. Just the same exhausting cycle over & over again. Neither your red nor blue candidates have ever spoken with such clarity, with as much sense, earnest vision or substance, with as much care & consideration for your working class, the poor and the sick, as Jill & Butch did here. If only your nation could decay and decline alone, but your systems are seemingly hellbent on destroying other lives along with you - & you'll keep voting for it because you are the centre of your universe. A Syrian child's blood is what runs your engine. A Palestinian infant dies before opening her eyes, so you can stream brat in peace. Where on the map even is that? It would be sad, if it wasn't utterly psychopathic. Home of the brave. Watch the full interview, if you can stomach sitting through Angela Rye's ridiculous shilling. Edited September 13 by FOCK Link 4 1
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