celeb news Ex Sugababe Amelle calls out former band mate Keisha

[prézli]

1 hour ago, xokuba said:

Same with Heidi, just without the solo endeavor. 

It felt like the new line-up was driven by Heidi.

 

 

The first since Caught in a Moment.

 

 

[ChooseyLover]

20 minutes ago, BraveNewSeth said:

THIS. I wouldn't say Keisha has Beyoncé level vocals, but she clearly has Beyoncé level work ethic. It's clear that she pushed everyone in the group to perform to the best of their abilities, and some of them (Heidi and Amelle) took that as Keisha bullying them. And then of course that label stuck because a black woman has to be a complete pushover or else she's angry (or a bully in this case).

Oh I think she definitely is, but we haven't seen her at her full potential like we've seen Bey, who has had a long solo career so I feel you.

 

It's true that I empathize with Keisha a lot more but if I think about it objectively I don't think there is any evil or good and bad in the situation. Keisha says in the podcast she doesn't need any closure when it comes to the break up, but it would be nice if the three of them talked about it privately.

 

Obviously there were many factors at play that made things go that way, their working relationship aside. Keisha says in the podcast it was a matter of control, she wanted to be way more involved creatively and thought she was entitled to it after being in the band since she was like 15. She also says she wasn't the member they were going to replace (so basically that confirms it was gonna be Amelle), but considering Keisha was the only one pushing for that creative autonomy, it's easy to understand why things turned out differently. They were employees rather than CEOs.

Edited September 12 by ChooseyLover

[Soda Pop Queen]

It's 2024 and they still outchea tryna make Keisha out to be some big bad wolf even if she was to the replacements, Sugababes was HER group atp as she was a founding member and had the most longevity. They were already hanging on by a thread after Mutya, Keisha's right hand in the core sound of the harmony, left so it was really done after the label forced Keisha out. 

[Maroonx]

leave the past in the past...

 

Also a big FU to Amelle, if she rly wanted to leave the past in the past she would've ignored the podcast/tiktok video or whatever altogether. I quite honestly can't stand Amelle, and Sweet 7 was a massive disaster, I'm glad Keisha was sacked before that mess was released. x

[Joesuxx]

2 hours ago, ChooseyLover said:

Right? I'm watching the podcast now and I'm confused by Amelle's reaction. Keisha didn't say anything wrong about any of the girls, she even confirmed some of the stuff the ATRL Sugababes 4.0 stans told me when we discussed the break up. She even said Amelle reached out to her and told her she was happy for their success. 

I'm thinking maybe she's reacted like this because it didn't happen or if it did not the way Keisha tells it? Amelle has really done a good job of staying out of until now so it's very confusing otherwise 

[starsailor]

 

These are the sugababes that matters anyway. Stream Flatline and buy it on iTunes.

[ChooseyLover]

11 minutes ago, Joesuxx said:

I'm thinking maybe she's reacted like this because it didn't happen or if it did not the way Keisha tells it? Amelle has really done a good job of staying out of until now so it's very confusing otherwise 

The hosts were shady af towards Heidi and Amelle and that's facts. But Keisha didn't take the bait. She's not directly blaming them for what happened. I feel like there was a lot of miscommunication and what Amelle sees as lies might just be something she is unaware of. Keisha was forced out of her own group, I don't know all the deets about how that happened but I'm sure it wasn't nice for her, there wasn't a right way to do that.

 

And actually Amelle is the one that's trying to make Keisha look bad insinuating things, anyway.

Edited September 12 by ChooseyLover

[BraveNewSeth]

1 hour ago, ChooseyLover said:

Oh I think she definitely is, but we haven't seen her at her full potential like we've seen Bey, who has had a long solo career so I feel you.

 

It's true that I empathize with Keisha a lot more but if I think about it objectively I don't think there is any evil or good and bad in the situation. Keisha says in the podcast she doesn't need any closure when it comes to the break up, but it would be nice if the three of them talked about it privately.

 

Obviously there were many factors at play that made things go that way, their working relationship aside. Keisha says in the podcast it was a matter of control, she wanted to be way more involved creatively and thought she was entitled to it after being in the band since she was like 15. She also says she wasn't the member they were going to replace (so basically that confirms it was gonna be Amelle), but considering Keisha was the only one pushing for that creative autonomy, it's easy to understand why things turned out differently. They were employees rather than CEOs.

I definitely agree that there's no one truly bad or good in this situation. At the end of the day they were all young girls who were thrown into an incredibly volatile environment surrounded by adults who had no problem exploiting them. Like you I empathize with Keisha the most, especially after watching a lot of her vlogs and listening to her talk about her experiences with racism in the industry. It's just frustrating seeing how all of these bullying accusations are still so prevalent when it's clear there were extenuating circumstances surrounding the band and it isn't black and white like a lot of us were led to believe. 

[noonbob]

1 hour ago, starsailor said:

 

These are the sugababes that matters anyway. Stream Flatline and buy it on iTunes.

+1 

 

[SpaceOddity]

I'm convinced this band is a curse. Shame cause they're one of the best pop groups we had. 

[The Slayer]

I've met Keisha multiple times over the past few years and she's always been so sweet.

 

This is a shame to see as I like all members, past and present.

[Spicy_TyTy]

It's like a few months until 2025. The discourse between ex and current Sugababes is dragged out and tired, let's move on Amelle and focus on what you are doing now (not sure what that is).

[JoAddams]

where's I can listen to podcast with Keisha?

[Katamari]

i believe keisha

[Attitude]

Amelle needs to either spill the tea or keep it moving. The only reason she's getting any bookings is due to the OG Sugababes putting in the work to rebuild brand recognition. She should be grateful.

[Johnny Jacobs]

All of these words and she literally said nothing 

 

Just say what happened or stfu. 

[Cbreezy]

1 hour ago, Johnny Jacobs said:

All of these words and she literally said nothing 

 

Just say what happened or stfu. 

Team Keisha (to the max), but I'm actually of this opinion for all of them.

 

There's been so much tip-toeing and "I could tell you everything, but I want to be classy" from all sides that I'm bored.

 

I do sense, though, that the 'Babes will do a big spill all when it's time to promote their new album. Or when all is said and done and it's book/biography time. They've been super coy/PC about what even went down with the trademark. Stans have just pieced it together between vague remarks and public record, but they've not been particularly concrete. I get it and imagine it could be a combo of NDAs and not wanting to rattle the nest and have anymore legal drama. 

 

Similarly, something Keisha said on some doc or other interview has always stuck in my mind. She said something about the end of her tenure being confusing because one of the complaining members was chilling with her just the day before with their legs on her lap... only for everything to implode. She needn't say a name, but an expansion on the specifics would help paint a clearer picture. 

 

Overall, though, I think the "reality" of Keisha's exit/Sweet 7 sits somewhere in the middle of all sides. She's been vocal about it being more of a colleagues situation by that time of the group and also admitted to being quite withdrawn in the band given the media scrutiny. It's not a given that you'll necessarily gel with people you're forced into a unit with either. On top of that, one of the most telling things is the fact she was doing a lot of the writing and extra-ish that gave her favor with the producers. Just like Danity Kane and other groups, it's a surefire way for internal chaos when you consider that it probably would see her (rightfully) earn more $$$ on the publishing side etc.

 

At this exact same time, the label was pushing Amelle as a soloist with her Tinchy Stryder collab and putting her at the front of group formations (just look at the Get Sexy and post-Keisha videos). As a founding member, essentially forced together with this "colleague" I'm sorry but any one of us would be pressed af under those circumstances.  Those kind of antics (which, in a way, one could argue wasn't Amelle's "fault" either) would frustrate "a" Keisha under those circumstances. Especially as no other iteration of the group had ever presented as a launchpad for any one solo career. Not even with Heidi, who from a UK/Eurocentric lens would have been an easy sell solo in the early to mid-00s. We don't know the tea for sure, but in Keisha's position, anyone would and should rightfully feel a way. 

 

More than anything, and i'm probably gonna sound biased af, but I have never given a single f about what anyone says Keisha did or didn't do. It was essentially "her" group at that point, so it was extremely dense and dumb of label/management to think there was ever going to be a viable future for a Keisha-less iteration of the Babes. It speaks to how much of a Pop assembly line mentality labels of that time had. Because, in today's era of relatability and faux-authenticity, that would NEVER fly. 

 

The huge irony about the original Babes reforming literally two years after and now having another moment on the live circuit is that I actually think we'd have been at this "originals are back" mark way earlier had a) the label simply scrapped Sweet 7 (though I think the Roc Nation deal probably meant it "had" to come out) and b) let Amelle (and Heidi if she adamantly wanted out) go and roped Mutya and Siobhan back into the mix rather than trying to cling onto the replacements. The hype of "another" lineup change essentially coming full circle would have had the tabloids going crazy (all promo is good promo). And this probably would have saved everyone time and drama because there wouldn't have been the battle for the name.

 

Hindsight is 20/20 and maybe my perspective omits a lot of the legalities, technicalities, and emotional side of it all.