discussion Joker: FAD to lose $150-200M, one of the biggest box office bombs ever

[Blue Monday]

50 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

wait Bruno is not in the movie?

They're actually re-cutting the movie as we speak to include footage from the DWAS mv in hopes it will bring people to the theater 

[mathekr]

1 minute ago, lgaga1fan said:

I know this thread is a Gaga circlejerk atm but can the movie people actually talk for a sec. Do y'all find it interesting that this might be yet ANOTHER 2019 sequel that underperforms? We've had Shazam, Aquaman, The Marvels, now possibly Joker 2. Also I think Mufasa is gonna bomb too. I just find it interesting. I feel like all of these movies took WAY too long to come out. 

I feel like each of those flopped for different reasons, not because of the time between them (except maybe Aquaman), but it is kinda interesting that all of them are from 2019  

JFAD's worst offense imo is that it had no business existing in the first place. The first movie is fantastic as it is, there was no need for a follow up.

[Walk_Away21]

10 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

I know this thread is a Gaga circlejerk atm but can the movie people actually talk for a sec. Do y'all find it interesting that this might be yet ANOTHER 2019 sequel that underperforms? We've had Shazam, Aquaman, The Marvels, now possibly Joker 2. Also I think Mufasa is gonna bomb too. I just find it interesting. I feel like all of these movies took WAY too long to come out. 

I kinda love that. I love a good franchise, but not everything needs to be a trilogy / sequel / rehash.

[LaFuerza]

One of the worst movies of all time 

[Da Vinci]

Gaga and Katy should be banned from touching clown related things I fear, it's a curse!

 

[Scandalous]

13 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

I know this thread is a Gaga circlejerk atm but can the movie people actually talk for a sec. Do y'all find it interesting that this might be yet ANOTHER 2019 sequel that underperforms? We've had Shazam, Aquaman, The Marvels, now possibly Joker 2. Also I think Mufasa is gonna bomb too. I just find it interesting. I feel like all of these movies took WAY too long to come out. 

 

Barbenheimer last year proved that the GP is hungry for original blockbuster content yet studios keep insisting on lacklustre sequels and franchises and the public isn't lapping it up anymore. all the recent superhero sequels have critically bombed too so there's no good word of mouth to keep them afloat. deadpool & wolverine being the only recent exception i think

[AvadaKedavra]

Ok i was just joking. Honestly i am bit a sad things are goin this way for her.
I wanted everything in this era to be real successful and then come with the cherry on top LG7.
I been hearing how Joaquin Phoenix is a **** and a pain to work it. This is probably karma for him 
Ok maybe this will be good in the long run. She will focus more on her music career
I love Gaga the singer. I dont care that much about the actress

[lgaga1fan]

1 minute ago, Scandalous said:

Barbenheimer last year proved that the GP is hungry for original blockbuster content yet studios keep insisting on lacklustre sequels and franchises and the public isn't lapping it up anymore. all the recent superhero sequels have critically bombed too so there's no good word of mouth to keep them afloat. deadpool & wolverine being the only recent exception i think

Yeah I kinda agree with all of this. I feel like D&W had the major benefit of being dumbed down enough to appeal to people en masse but also have brutal enough action (and Hugh Jackman) to prop it up to feel like a full theatrical experience. 

[Rihinvention]

I wonder if she auditioned for Elphaba, and if that affected her when she didn't get it.

 

I remember that Bachelor contestant saying she used to sing 'Wicked' songs in college and it drove everyone crazy.

 

https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/07/lady-gaga-bachelor-carly-waddell-annoying-school/
 

Quote

Carly said that Gaga -- who went by her real name, Stefani, back then -- would dismiss basic lunchtime etiquette, singing "Wicked" at the top of her lungs while on the piano as others tried to eat in peace ... every single day.

 

Carly said, "It was break time, and we were forced to listen to her" ... which she found so irritating, she started eating her lunch in the hallway just to flee Gaga's singing.

 

[Calvin]

Watched it, both phoenix and Gaga are terrible in this film. 

[Scandalous]

3 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Yeah I kinda agree with all of this. I feel like D&W had the major benefit of being dumbed down enough to appeal to people en masse but also have brutal enough action (and Hugh Jackman) to prop it up to feel like a full theatrical experience. 

although to be fair the top movies of the year so far are all sequels  inside out 2 really smashed. but this could also be because there really hasn't been any original movies released  from big studios

Edited October 1 by Scandalous

[lgaga1fan]

Just now, Rihinvention said:

I wonder if she auditioned for Elphaba, and if that affected her when she didn't get it.

 

I remember that Bachelor contestant saying she used to sing 'Wicked' songs in college and it drove everyone crazy.

 

https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/07/lady-gaga-bachelor-carly-waddell-annoying-school/

Why would she wanna be Elphaba she's almost 40 and would be playing an 18 year old. She didn't bother auditioning we already know who did. 

[KingWitch]

1 hour ago, bjorn said:

Birds of Prey with Margot actually bombed harder. Opened with $33M

 

and Blue Beetle opened with $25M

 

oh and Madame Web $15M. Think that's the biggest bomb 

There's still time don't worry,JFAD is coming for them all

[Gaia]

2 hours ago, Venice B said:

Going from a 70M prediction to 44M is kinda crazy 

 

But I'm not surprised. The target audience for this kind of movie doesn't like musicals. What were they thinking?

Yeah I liked the first movie but HATE musicals  I love The Greatest Showman soundtrack and have replayed it 100000x times but have still never even watched the movie

 

Calling it a musical was the biggest marketing disaster they could have done 

[Rihinvention]

36 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said:

Why would she wanna be Elphaba she's almost 40 and would be playing an 18 year old. She didn't bother auditioning we already know who did. 

There's only 8 months difference between Gaga and Cynthia Erivo…

 

Amanda Seyfried is a few months older than Gaga and she went to multiple rounds of auditions for Galinda. Lea Michelle is only 4 months younger than Gaga and auditioned for Elphaba.
 

So many actresses in their 30s went for it. Yes, they're meant to be in college, but it's not like people in their 30s have never played college students. Even Idina Menzel and Kristen Chenoweth looked noticeably more mature than 18-year-olds.

 

Besides, we're talking about the land of Oz here. Is "well on Earth, freshman are usually 18" really where you're choosing not to suspend your disbelief? It's a freaking University for magicians in the land of make-believe…

 

 

Edited October 1 by Rihinvention

[QueenB]

3 minutes ago, Gaia said:

Yeah I liked the first movie but HATE musicals  I love The Greatest Showman soundtrack and have replayed it 100000x times but have still never even watched the movie

 

Calling it a musical was the biggest marketing disaster they could have done 

I think they actively tried to hide the fact it was a musical 

[GAGAxMONSTER]

At this point, I'm just praying this doesn't make the Razzies 

[Bey'Knight]

On 9/30/2024 at 5:14 PM, Bey'Knight said:

From WORSE to WORSER 

We're gonna need a new word 

[Gaia]

8 minutes ago, QueenB said:

I think they actively tried to hide the fact it was a musical 

If they did they did a terrible job because everyone knows it's a musical  

[i spit on haters]

4 minutes ago, Bey'Knight said:

We're gonna need a new word 

And another adjective after that when we see that steep second week decline. 

[AgentChain]

36 minutes ago, Scandalous said:

 

Barbenheimer last year proved that the GP is hungry for original blockbuster content yet studios keep insisting on lacklustre sequels and franchises and the public isn't lapping it up anymore. all the recent superhero sequels have critically bombed too so there's no good word of mouth to keep them afloat. deadpool & wolverine being the only recent exception i think

But The Fall Guy ticked all the boxes of what people supposedly want from a blockbuster movie yet the GP said no and underperformed, so I don't know anymore.

 

OT: J: FAD is just not very appealing. Nobody talked very much about it in the weeks leading to the release.

Edited October 1 by AgentChain

[BrokenMachine]

Yes Gaga yes flop 

[narid]

 

This is bad bad… A total bomb kind of bad.

[Radical Pessimism]

I will support Gaga by watching the movie at my local theater. 

[Schhh]

What a trainwreck Gaga just can't catch a break.