Josh Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Loose is one of the biggest pop albums of the 2000's and one of the most iconic from a pop girl, but we didn't get a continuation of that Timbaland sound for the next two albums after. Was it a good career move for Nelly not to make a continuation of Loose or should Nelly had released an album similar to Madonna's Hard Candy?
PopKills Posted August 30 Posted August 30 I think she's aware that it wasn't a good idea commercially speaking, but that was the whole point bc she felt depressed and burned out during the Loose era. 5
TalkThatRihanna Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) Why would it be a good career move? She became a nobody after that Era, didn't build a cult fan base, and got no critical acclaim with future projects Edited August 30 by TalkThatRihanna 1
rebeltwat Posted August 30 Posted August 30 That sound was kind of already stale by 2008 so I think she decided fine. The real issue was her not continuing to pursue a commercial sound post-Loose, but that didn't seem like something she wanted so I'm sure she's fine with how things turned out. 3
ChooseyLover Posted August 30 Posted August 30 She's not like the average pop star craving hits and trying hard to maintain a certain level of popularity and commercial success. Releasing an independent Spanish album is exactly what felt authentic to her at that moment and it's a good album. I do feel like Loose is the odd one out in her discography. Great and iconic but it's not her characteristic sound no matter how much the TikTok generation eats it up. If you listen to Whoa, Nelly! or Folklore or basically any other Nelly album you'll know what I'm talking about. 8
Sugar-Rush Posted August 30 Posted August 30 It was a bad move imho. It felt like self-sabotage at the time and similar to how I felt about Gwen not releasing a solo album for like 10 years after TSE. The mid-2000s pop girls made some... interesting career choices to say the least.
Mr. Duff Posted August 30 Posted August 30 13 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said: She's not like the average pop star craving hits and trying hard to maintain a certain level of popularity and commercial success. Releasing an independent Spanish album is exactly what felt authentic to her at that moment and it's a good album. I do feel like Loose is the odd one out in her discography. Great and iconic but it's not her characteristic sound no matter how much the TikTok generation eats it up. If you listen to Whoa, Nelly! or Folklore or basically any other Nelly album you'll know what I'm talking about. I agree with this. It's an AMAZING album but it sticks out. I still love it though. 1
Rihinvention Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sugar-Rush said: It was a bad move imho. It felt like self-sabotage at the time and similar to how I felt about Gwen not releasing a solo album for like 10 years after TSE. The mid-2000s pop girls made some... interesting career choices to say the least. Agreed. Especially when you consider their ages at the time. Nelly, Gwen and Fergie couldn't afford to take decade-long breaks, and to walk back in like "what's up? I'm back" (Bit ironic for me to say, as a Rihanna stan…but Rih's had 8 solo albums and is still a streaming giant) I feel like Fergie, Gwen and Nelly absolutely dominated white girl pop/rnb during Britney's pregnancies, but they didn't sustain it, and then the onslaught of 2008 mainstream breakthroughs happened (Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Kesha, Nicki Minaj) If one new girl is breaking through? Awesome. Welcome to the club. If an entire BATCH of new generation girls are breaking through? Bítch, get in the studio. Edited August 30 by Rihinvention
Støned Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Commercially no, but artistically yes. Her subsequent albums showed her versatility as an artist. (I personally adored Mi Plan, I'm hoping she'll release a 2nd Spanish album in the future) All of her albums are so sonically diverse, you wouldn't expect they come from a single artist. 6
Mtjjproducer Posted August 30 Posted August 30 She tried if I remember correctly it just didn't do well. She didn't work with timbo but she worked with darkchild on an album indestructible or whatever it was called. It just wasn't good
Popboi. Posted August 30 Posted August 30 The real terrible move is not releasing an English album before Mi Plan
YourFavoriteWeapon Posted August 30 Posted August 30 I think she just wanted a big pop album like Loose as a way to experiment and see if she could really do it, but she also had enough self awareness to know that being on top of the world for another era would've bummed her out and made her more depressed and exhausted.
Polgg48 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 either going to be the sweet escape or hard candy as mentioned, it's not like most people nitpicking her authentic as her first two albums folky image wise. sure TSD is what she wants all along but it would have flopped even followed up by a year after loose because album was like that non-commercial appeal. make sense by her discography overall tbf that dissed loose continuation was good call for her but she unfortunately burned out. i think it's nothing to lose to release another timberland album, she thought everyone out to get her sell out on that period but actually they didnt.
Dark Miracles Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Some people are wise enough to recognize when something is not for you. Nelly is the opposite of a careerist, and after succeeding with flying colors in making a a more musically streamlined album for arena tours she realized the fame that came with it sapped her creativity and mental health so she stepped away. Sucks for us her fans in a way but we've seen how detrimental it can be to an artist's mental health so she did the right thing 1
Dark Miracles Posted August 30 Posted August 30 22 minutes ago, Mtjjproducer said: She tried if I remember correctly it just didn't do well. She didn't work with timbo but she worked with darkchild on an album indestructible or whatever it was called. It just wasn't good The Spirit Indestructible might just be her best album actually
Mtjjproducer Posted August 30 Posted August 30 9 minutes ago, Dark Miracles said: The Spirit Indestructible might just be her best album actually I'll have to listen to it again. Haven't heard it in like 10 years didn't like it when it came out gonna give it another try.
Frozen99 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 if you watched her interviews, she'd always been saying she wanted her music to be heard, she never cared about fame (we literally didn't even know she had two kids until she changed her insta bio lol). she was burnt out after loose and its tour, she wanted sth different so instead of continuing with Lifestyle, she released a greatest hits and then Mi Plan career-wise, doing TSE / Hard Candy would've been probably better for her commercially, especially releasing an english album before MP but artistically, for her, it was correct the way she did it. sucks for us, mainly the long ass breaks...
UnusualBoy Posted August 30 Posted August 30 No, it was not but this is what she wanted. I remember her saying that she was burned out after the Loose and can't blame her, she was everywhere, promoting, touring, etc and she didn't really enjoy the attention she got from this which is not a hard thing to see considering she didn't really an album until 4 years later and it was in spanish.
MatiRod Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Hard Candy should've been her follow up album. "4 mins" sounds more like a Nelly F song than a Madonna song.
Josh Posted August 30 Author Posted August 30 3 minutes ago, MatiRod said: Hard Candy should've been her follow up album. "4 mins" sounds more like a Nelly F song than a Madonna song. do you think Timbaland had Nelly in mind for HC
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Good choice. Sis have you seen the The Spirit Indestructible's numbers? Now THAT's a flop
vuelve88 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Her pursuit of a Spanish music career after Loose was a bit weird and ultimately caused her to lose all momentum. It would have been fine if she had released Mi Plan and quickly followed up with an English album, but she let years and years pass.
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