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Also we need to appreciate this music video where she shows a male gay couple back in early 2000s! Progressive ICON :clap3:

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Afterglow said:

I've been a Vanessa fan since her debut. White Houses is one of the best pop songs of all time, in fact a lot of her music is some of the best pop music of all time. 

 

Is it? I've seen her live probably 5 times now, she sounds literally the same as she did when she debuted especially when she sang White Houses and Carousel. 

I know I'm not the only one who thinks she sounds completely different but you're lucky that you don't notice a difference in her voice :rip: 

 

2 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

Harmonium was DELAYED for months by her record label after White Houses underperformed due to MTV and radio ban and yet she STILL opened with over 100k pure sales. She had GIRLS IN A CHOKEHOLD, she really was og Taylor Swift 

 

Queen **** :ryan3:Meanwhile  Love is an Art probably debuted with like 1.8k at best cjlyiajdjjddjdlkfhdhd :rip: At least they played one of the songs in the HBO Max Gossip Girl reboot. 

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1 minute ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

I know I'm not the only one who thinks she sounds completely different but you're lucky that you don't notice a difference in her voice :rip: 

 

Queen **** :ryan3:Meanwhile  Love is an Art probably debuted with like 1.8k at best cjlyiajdjjddjdlkfhdhd :rip: At least they played one of the songs in the HBO Max Gossip Girl reboot. 

 

Which song did they play? 

 

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2 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

Also we need to appreciate this music video where she shows a male gay couple back in early 2000s! Progressive ICON :clap3:

 

 

 

She really was a progressive trailblazer, I remember she put a gay couple in the Hands on Me music video too :heart: I also LOVE Pretty Baby, probably my favorite on the album next to Unsung (she had Kurt Cobain shook from the grave with that sample :suburban:)

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1 minute ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

Which song did they play? 

 

 

I feel like Die, Dinosaur would've honestly fit better given that a large chunk of the show was centered around the youth revolting against the "rich white man" , but I also really love this song so I'm not that mad about it :ryan3:

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2 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

 

I feel like Die, Dinosaur would've honestly fit better given that a large chunk of the show was centered around the youth revolting against the "rich white man" , but I also really love this song so I'm not that mad about it :ryan3:

 

Ohhh, I love this song! 

 

"Nothing Where Something Used To Be" is also an excellent track from her previous album Liberman 

 

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2 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

 

I feel like Die, Dinosaur would've honestly fit better given that a large chunk of the show was centered around the youth revolting against the "rich white man" , but I also really love this song so I'm not that mad about it :ryan3:

let's remember the OG gossip girl classic and vanessa biggest song

since harmonium :ryan3:

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

She really was a progressive trailblazer, I remember she put a gay couple in the Hands on Me music video too :heart: I also LOVE Pretty Baby, probably my favorite on the album next to Unsung (she had Kurt Cobain shook from the grave with that sample :suburban:)

 

Taste! Twilight too! She had so many songs that the youth would stan but OLD MEN couldn't grasp a successful female artists who has main appeal with young girls and gays. She really paved the way for what we have now after her record label constantly sabotaged instead of having faith in her appeal 

 

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2 minutes ago, Minto said:

let's remember the OG gossip girl classic and vanessa biggest song

since harmonium :ryan3:

 

 

 

 

Vanessa also having femboys back in 2007! Queen of LGBT! She always made sure she used us in her music videos when it was difficult and commercial liability to do so :jonnycat:

 

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5 minutes ago, Minto said:

let's remember the OG gossip girl classic and vanessa biggest song

since harmonium :ryan3:

 

 

 

'CAUSE STEVIE KNOWS AND I THAAAANNNK HER SO 'CAUSE IT'S YOUR SEEDS I SOW AND NOW I KNOWWWWWWWWWWW :jonny5:

The way Blue Pool was the closest thing she got to a hit after this considering they used it in an EOS (a shitty lil balm from America that got discontinued due to it causing bleeding/chapped lips :rip: ) commercial that always played constantly as well as some airline commercial :rip: I'm not mad though given that it's my probably my favorite on Liberman next to River or Ascension. 

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7 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

Vanessa also having femboys back in 2007! Queen of LGBT! She always made sure she used us in her music videos when it was difficult and commercial liability to do so :jonnycat:

 

And when she came out as bi at a pride festival and later said she wrote A Thousand Miles about a famous actress :suburban:

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1 minute ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

And when she came out as bi at a pride festival and later said she wrote A Thousand Miles about a famous actress :suburban:

 

When was that? :eek:

 

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2 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

When was that? :eek:

 

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We stan a bisexual queen omfg :clap3: 

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Yes it's one of my favourite songs ever :heart2:

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A classic :jonnycat: Such a vivid, nostalgic and touching song. 

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1 minute ago, greento said:

Yes it's one of my favourite songs ever :heart2:

 

1 minute ago, fountain said:

A classic :jonnycat: Such a vivid, nostalgic and touching song. 

The praise :clap3: Love to see it 

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17 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

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We stan a bisexual queen omfg :clap3: 

 

Nashville too at that? Slay queen :clap3:

 

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54 minutes ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

You nasty hoe dragged me when I posted this exact same song on ATRL after I lost my virginity few years ago. Fake ass hoe! 

 

I'm very confused but congrats on your deflowering!

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Ugh yes, thank you for the tag :WAP: great analysis!
 

The way she sings some of the lines "he's SO funny in his bright red shirt…" I can feel her deluding herself to fall for the boy's tricks :jonnycat:

"maybe I'm more clever than a girl like her…" the insecurity in her voice :emofish:

 

the whole record indeed is a masterpiece… the back to back HITS that are Who's to Slay, AnnGOD, San Francisco… the wreckage being the best way to end the album… UGH!!! I love it!!

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This song walked so Taylor could run

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1 hour ago, Bloodflowers. said:

 

Harmonium was DELAYED for months by her record label after White Houses underperformed due to MTV and radio ban and yet she STILL opened with over 100k pure sales. She had GIRLS IN A CHOKEHOLD, she really was og Taylor Swift 

 

My wish is for Vanessa to do all the piano arrangements on a Taylor album…. TTPD anthology piano tracks remind me of Vanessa but they're lacking the sweeping piano melodies.

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38 minutes ago, Poxy said:

Ugh yes, thank you for the tag :WAP: great analysis!
 

The way she sings some of the lines "he's SO funny in his bright red shirt…" I can feel her deluding herself to fall for the boy's tricks :jonnycat:

"maybe I'm more clever than a girl like her…" the insecurity in her voice :emofish:

 

the whole record indeed is a masterpiece… the back to back HITS that are Who's to Slay, AnnGOD, San Francisco… the wreckage being the best way to end the album… UGH!!! I love it!!

YESSSSS at the praise for The Wreckage. I always get chills when the piano kicks in and her voice gets higher :jonny5: Harmonium is really one of the best pop albums ever made omfg.

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1 hour ago, Poxy said:

Ugh yes, thank you for the tag :WAP: great analysis!
 

The way she sings some of the lines "he's SO funny in his bright red shirt…" I can feel her deluding herself to fall for the boy's tricks :jonnycat:

"maybe I'm more clever than a girl like her…" the insecurity in her voice :emofish:

 

the whole record indeed is a masterpiece… the back to back HITS that are Who's to Slay, AnnGOD, San Francisco… the wreckage being the best way to end the album… UGH!!! I love it!!

 

Don't forget Private Radio (my insomnia anthem) and Half A Week Before the Winter:jonnycat:

 

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1 hour ago, Poxy said:

Ugh yes, thank you for the tag :WAP: great analysis!
 

The way she sings some of the lines "he's SO funny in his bright red shirt…" I can feel her deluding herself to fall for the boy's tricks :jonnycat:

"maybe I'm more clever than a girl like her…" the insecurity in her voice :emofish:

 

the whole record indeed is a masterpiece… the back to back HITS that are Who's to Slay, AnnGOD, San Francisco… the wreckage being the best way to end the album… UGH!!! I love it!!

 

Don't forget Private Radio (my insomnia anthem) and Half A Week Before the Winter:jonnycat: 

 

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