base talk Kim Petras stans have it out for Kesha. Why?

[Archetype]

I don't think a majority of Kim's stans hate Kesha at all, more so they hate how *some* deranged Kesha stans insert themselves into every Kim-related thread possible and call her names, insult her body, bring up Luke when literally no one asked, etc.  It's impossible to have a normal discussion about her music on this forum because of this, and unfortunately some people in this thread are very much guilty of contributing to that, especially people who are so obsessed with her to the point that they write essays about her. 

[TomTom]

3 minutes ago, Archetype said:

I don't think a majority of Kim's stans hate Kesha at all, more so they hate how *some* deranged Kesha stans insert themselves into every Kim-related thread possible and call her names, insult her body, bring up Luke when literally no one asked, etc.  It's impossible to have a normal discussion about her music on this forum because of this, and unfortunately some people in this thread are very much guilty of contributing to that, especially people who are so obsessed with her to the point that they write essays about her. 

You have it 100% backwards 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

15 minutes ago, Archetype said:

I don't think a majority of Kim's stans hate Kesha at all, more so they hate how *some* deranged Kesha stans insert themselves into every Kim-related thread possible and call her names, insult her body, bring up Luke when literally no one asked, etc.  It's impossible to have a normal discussion about her music on this forum because of this, and unfortunately some people in this thread are very much guilty of contributing to that, especially people who are so obsessed with her to the point that they write essays about her. 

Respectfully, I don't see the issue with Animals bringing up Kim's association with Kesha's rapist and how she said Kesha lied about being raped without saying it verbatim. If we're discussing a person who has showcased they lack any semblance of morality by employing a rapist and discrediting the credible allegations of his victimS, there's nothing wrong with bringing up their behavior, even if it is unrelated to the discussion at hand. If ATRL started having a bunch of threads being made about Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis, would you judge people for bringing up the way they spat in the faces of rape victims the same way Kim spat in Dr. Luke's victims faces? Would you judge someone if they went in a Paris Hilton thread and brought up how her saying Trump's rape victims lied for attention (the same thing Kim insinuated about Dr. Luke's victims) made them change their perception of her? 

 

The irrefutable fact is that Kim Petras is a rape apologist and the type of person that makes rape victims like myself scared to come forward knowing that there are people out there like her who deny the traumatic experiences of others. There's nothing wrong with Animals bringing up how Kesha's pop peer said she lied about being raped while defending her rapist in midst of Kesha  being financially abused through the legal system and going through the worst mental state of her life, we can shout our warranted greviances with someone as horrendous as Kim from the rooftops if we want to because denying someone's rape experience is unacceptable. 

Edited August 28 by YourFavoriteWeapon

[Archetype]

12 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

Respectfully, I don't see the issue with Animals bringing up Kim's association with Kesha's rapist and how she said Kesha lied about being raped. If we're discussing a person who has showcased they lack any semblance of morality by employing a rapist and discrediting his victimS claims, there's nothing wrong with bringing up their behavior even if it is unrelated to the discussion at hand. If ATRL started having a bunch of threads being made Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis, would you judge people for bringing up the way they spat in the faces of rape victims the same way Kim spat in Dr. Luke's victims faces? Would you judge someone if they went in a Paris Hilton thread and brought up how her saying Trump's rape victims lied for attention (the same thing Kim insinuated about Dr. Luke's victims) made them change their perception of her? 

 

The irrefutable fact is that Kim Petras is a rape apologist and the type of person that makes rape victims like myself scared to come forward knowing that there are people out there like her who deny the traumatic experiences of others. There's nothing wrong with Animals bringing up how Kesha's pop peer said she lied about being raped while defending her rapist while Kesha was being financially abused through the legal system and in the worst mental state of her life, we can shout it from the rooftops if we want to because denying someone's rape experience is unacceptable. 

You keep writing essays about this as if it changes anything.  No, there is no *respectfully* in being extremely off-topic in threads about music from an artist that you so clearly do not like nor respect.  You are obviously triggered by her very existence at this point, it is evident by your posts and the lengths you go to barrage her at every given opportunity.  That *is* obsession, you *are* obsessed with Kim Petras, and that is not healthy for *you*.  Her stans and fans are going to continue supporting her and listening to her music no matter how successful or big of a flop she may be, and you'll need to learn to accept that and move on.  

22 minutes ago, TomTom said:

You have it 100% backwards 

Let's be real here, both stan bases do it to each other.

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

3 minutes ago, Archetype said:

You are obviously triggered by her very existence at this point, it is evident by your posts and the lengths you go to barrage her at every given opportunity.  That *is* obsession, you *are* obsessed with Kim Petras, and that is not healthy for *you*. 

I can assure you that it isn't this deep  This is literally a pop music forum where we all argue and bicker over girls in the industry. I can assure you that her "very existence" does not have me triggered considering I'm still able to listen to her non-Luke produced music without getting red in the face. The only thing that triggers me is her tendency to discredit rape victims and proudly stand by various rapists and abusers as a victim myself. Nothing more nothing less. I doubt you and I will see eye to eye on this or meet in the middle so take care

[GardenPanty]

29 minutes ago, Archetype said:

Let's be real here, both stan bases do it to each other.

Like, let's drop the holier-than-thou attitude please. I made a thread about Kesha flopping and it turned into a moralistic debate. If all other artists can receive lashings on here, so can Kesha.

[TomTom]

39 minutes ago, GardenPanty said:

Like, let's drop the holier-than-thou attitude please. I made a thread about Kesha flopping and it turned into a moralistic debate. If all other artists can receive lashings on here, so can Kesha.

Like, let's drop the holier-than-thou attitude please. You made a baseless thread about an artist that is 100% unproblematic and more successful than your fave(s) and keep complaining about others pointing out said facts. If all other users can be called out for being hypocritical, so can GardenPanty.

[alfonso12]

I think it's mostly cause Kesha stans have been insufferable towards Kim Petras.

[TomTom]

Just now, alfonso12 said:

I think it's mostly cause Kesha stans have been insufferable towards Kim Petras.

This is so blatantly false and untrue 

[AcidPrince]

A lot of free time i see.

idk, i love Kim and Kesha. 

[keshasfillers]

The OP

[Phaunzie]

2 hours ago, Archetype said:

I don't think a majority of Kim's stans hate Kesha at all, more so they hate how *some* deranged Kesha stans insert themselves into every Kim-related thread possible and call her names, insult her body, bring up Luke when literally no one asked, etc.  It's impossible to have a normal discussion about her music on this forum because of this, and unfortunately some people in this thread are very much guilty of contributing to that, especially people who are so obsessed with her to the point that they write essays about her. 

Spill...The....Tea. Like, they are serving OKH.

 

Update: :P

Edited August 28 by Phaunzie

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

14 minutes ago, alfonso12 said:

I think it's mostly cause Kesha stans have been insufferable towards Kim Petras.

Like they're not always defending her reprehensible choice to employ and continuously defend the man who RAPED AND PHYSICALLY/VERBALLY/MENTALLY/FINANCIALLY ABUSED our favorite singer on the basis of "u-u-u-uh no one would sign her bc she's trans!!11" even though her own FRIEND and collaborator called out fans spreading the misinformation coming from both Bunheads and Kim herself:

 

 

We can be as "insufferable" as we like given that Kim had the gall to publicly defend a RAPIST while forming a close friendship with both him and his wife (who has mocked Kesha's rape as well). She is one of the multitude of reasons why rape survivors don't come forward about their own experiences. 

[alfonso12]

1 hour ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

Like they're not always defending her reprehensible choice to employ and continuously defend the man who RAPED AND PHYSICALLY/VERBALLY/MENTALLY/FINANCIALLY ABUSED our favorite singer on the basis of "u-u-u-uh no one would sign her bc she's trans!!11" even though her own FRIEND and collaborator called out fans spreading the misinformation coming from both Bunheads and Kim herself:

 

 

We can be as "insufferable" as we like given that Kim had the gall to publicly defend a RAPIST while forming a close friendship with both him and his wife (who has mocked Kesha's rape as well). She is one of the multitude of reasons why rape survivors don't come forward about their own experiences. 

Listen, I'm not defending Kim, I don't stan her or anything, I'm just saying that you guys have been constantly against Kim (which is understandable given the circumstances) and that's why Kim stans have it out for Kesha. I doubt Kim stans would even care about Kesha if it wasn't because of her fans.

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

13 minutes ago, alfonso12 said:

Listen, I'm not defending Kim, I don't stan her or anything, I'm just saying that you guys have been constantly against Kim (which is understandable given the circumstances) and that's why Kim stans have it out for Kesha. I doubt Kim stans would even care about Kesha if it wasn't because of her fans.

Then they shouldn't stan someone who said rape victims lied about their trauma if they don't want to be dragged. It's simple. 

[alfonso12]

4 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

Then they shouldn't stan someone who said rape victims lied about their trauma if they don't want to be dragged. It's simple. 

You act like I'm saying you guys shouldn't be against Kim when I literally said it's understandable that you guys don't like her.  

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

Just now, alfonso12 said:

You act like I'm saying you guys shouldn't be against Kim when I literally said it's understandable that you guys don't like her.  

I know. I was just saying that Kim stans should accept that they'll (rightfully) get flack for supporting someone who is okay with rape and abuse the same way a Kanye stan should accept that they'll (rightfully) get flack for spouting Nazi ****. 

[EnigmaticAndroid]

5 hours ago, Bussea said:

and the irony of them constantly trying to body shame miss sebert as if Kim doesn't abuse ozempic and was told by her team to cancel her remaining shows bc had that giant head of hers tilted ever so slightly she'd fall and go through the stage.

[Into The Void]

 

On 8/28/2024 at 12:54 PM, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

As a Kesha stan, I'm pretty in tune with how the stan world treats her and have observed that the majority of people who spend hours making fun of her sales, "fading relevancy", appearance, and worst of all, her rape trauma, are always donning Kim Petras avatars or have tributes to her in their bios or signatures. My main question is: Why do they have it out for Kesha so bad? 

 

Is it because they have to live with the awful feeling of knowing the woman they stan unabashedly did an interview stating that she believes Kesha and every other woman that accused Luke of sexual/verbal/mental/financial abuse are lying about their trauma and experiences (re: "I would like my fans to know I wouldn't work with somebody I believe to be an abuser of women." from 2018) and proudly continues to work with him and continuously defends her decision (re: "5000000 ppl work with him why y'all only coming at me . I have nothing to say or be ashamed of at all . go away." from 2022).

 

Is it because they know that Kim was morally bankrupt enough to "allegedly" try to blacklist a female songwriter after Kim's boyfriend assaulted her? 

 

 

Is it because they're embarrassed knowing that Kim stooped so low to the point where she baited The Westboro Baptist Church into protesting outside her concert via billboards outside their hometown all for a "cunty" photoshoot that couldn't even crack 500k likes? For all the **** "Bunheads" give Kesha for calling the paparazzi outside a gas station, at least she never stopped that low. (For some context: Kim's team plastered billboards in the WBC's hometown basically telling them to come protest outside her Missouri concert, which isn't even the WBC's home state given that they live in Topeka  )

 

Is it because Kim's little Grammy win and #1 Hot 100 entry has never translated to any success for her solo career? Her Max Martin produced follow-up to Unholy titled If Jesus Was a Rockstar that was released right after Unholy peaked at #1 failed to make any waves, only managing to chart at #19 on the "Japan Hot Overseas" chart (whatever the **** that is dd  ) Not to mention, neither Problématique or **** Pop Miami managed to chart on the Top 200 (for all the **** they gave Gag Order, at least Kesha was able to chart  ), proving yet again that Unholy was a fluke for Miss Ozempic and that she might as well be the Colby O'Donis to Sam Smith's Lady Gaga if Unholy is Just Dance.

 

Is it because Kim was stupid enough to proudly show Blaire White, someone who has donned blackface, talked about wanting to gas migrants, mocked rape victims despite being one herself, and lied about people's personal and professional lives in attempt to smear their names (just to name a few) love in DMs and then backtracked saying "I didn't know Blaire was like that!! **** her!!" knowing damn well Blaire is infamous for one thing and one thing only: being the token Based Trans Woman™, thus showcasing her stupidity and cUsing Blaire to show intelligence and a newfound backbone for once in her life by blasting Kim for publicly disavowing her for being a Republican but not disavowing her producer and friend Dr. Luke for being a rapist pig.

 

 

Is it because people actually want to see Kesha on tour whereas Kim struggled to sell out high school gymnasiums even with a 3 for 1 deal and post-Unholy and Grammy win hype?

 

 

 

Is it because everyone who has met Kesha or interacted with her has deemed her to be nothing but an absolute sweetheart, meanwhile Kim has had mean girl allegations since day one (Slayyyter collaborater Graveyardguy also accused Kim of being a mean girl in a now deleted tweet, stating that "there is a reason why everyone in our scene doesn't **** with her or her team").

 

 

 

Or lastly, is it because Kesha's fanbase is comprised of lovely people who have both good taste in music and compassion for survivors of sexual assault, whereas the average Kim stans are PNP muscle twunks who need a house beat while GETTING beat and double fisted in the back of The Eagle by daddies they met on Recon as the trite gooning compilation music Kim calls a "discography" blares in the background. 

 

So tell me, why do YOU think Kim stans have it out for Kesha so bad? I'm curious to know what you all think about this matter. Keep it cute in the comments! Woo ah! 

 

Omg u tore them to pieces we have to stan 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

7 minutes ago, Into The Void said:

 

Omg u tore them to pieces we have to stan 

I'll grant NO mercy to the Ozempic'd Bubbling Under Bubbling Under RAPE SUPPORTING Woo-Ah! thot or the six stans she has here 

 

[Into The Void]

Just now, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

I'll grant NO mercy to the Ozempic'd Bubbling Under Bubbling Under RAPE SUPPORTING Woo-Ah! thot or the six stans she has here 

 

Are u sure she has 6 stans?

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

2 minutes ago, Into The Void said:

Are u sure she has 6 stans?

I think she has 

 

 

actual stan here and the other one is just a Kesha hater. No one I know irl or talk to online actually fucks with her LMAO, especially given that it's public knowledge she is more than okay with men RAPING women.