artist stats 'Christina Aguilera' certified 9x Platinum, "Genie" 3x Plat. in US

[brenda-walsh]

why is everyone so surprised its not diamond yet? the album has 790M streams on spotify and that's only global numbers. i'm sure with other streaming services in the US its done a fair amount but with average streaming numbers + poor recurrent pure sales it makes sense that its still 9x platinum and will probably need another few years to get to diamond certified status

[jomarr]

2 hours ago, UseYourIllusion2002 said:

The album sold 8.3 million copies through SoundScan and 935,000 through BMG clubs, totaling roughly 9.3 million sold. This doesn't includes stores that weren't tracked through Soundscan, along with other music clubs, streaming, TEA, etc. This has to be Diamond?! And I don't even like the album lol, just doesn't make sense. 

Idk if I recall correctly but RIAA doesn't count club sales? Or was it Billboard. I'm as confused as everyone else. Should be Diamond by now at the very least.

[Scars]

Only one more platinum certification after 24 years? 

 

I'm aware Christina's streaming stats are far from great, but this doesn't makes any sense. 

[UseYourIllusion2002]

2 hours ago, jomarr said:

Idk if I recall correctly but RIAA doesn't count club sales? Or was it Billboard. I'm as confused as everyone else. Should be Diamond by now at the very least.

Billboard/Soundscan doesn't count club sales. So that's why for a lot of 90s albums, people add the club sales to Soundscan numbers to get total confirmed sales. RIAA started counting club sales in 1995, so a ton of old albums got recertified around that time. 

[ReH2o]

Deserved Diamond 

[1989]

This absolutely deserves diamond, hopefully it'll get there soon. Of all the teen pop records of the late 90's, Xtina's has always been by far the best. The way it still holds up to this day is insane. 

[Bends]

9 hours ago, Sharamee6 said:

Doesn't add up at all. There's no way this only went from 8x to 9x in 14 years. No way.

In 24 years.

 

[Green]

10 hours ago, jomarr said:

Idk if I recall correctly but RIAA doesn't count club sales? Or was it Billboard. I'm as confused as everyone else. Should be Diamond by now at the very least.

 

Billboard doesn't count them but the RIAA does

 

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By May of 2018

 

CHRISTINA AGUILERA

ALBUM SALES: 8,273,547
ALBUMS W/TEA 8,506,777
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 8,574,107
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 8,619,144  

 

 

8,619,144  (Soundscan) + 935,000 (BMG Music club sales) = 9,554,144

 

this was 6 years ago. The streams of her debut album have increased since then

[thatsmydemi]

Diamond certifications must be expensive because there's no way the album isn't Diamond yet. 

[thatsmydemi]

12 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

why is everyone so surprised its not diamond yet? the album has 790M streams on spotify and that's only global numbers. i'm sure with other streaming services in the US its done a fair amount but with average streaming numbers + poor recurrent pure sales it makes sense that its still 9x platinum and will probably need another few years to get to diamond certified status

It's been 24 years. C'mon... 1m sales in 24 years is not normal. It's not like the album stopped selling, and then streaming appeared which made certifications even easier. 

[Assassin]

Million units in 24 years.

[SwiftLover]

The album was over-shipped. Remember- albums could be certified based on shipments. 
 

explains the small bump in sales 

[brenda-walsh]

1 hour ago, thatsmydemi said:

It's been 24 years. C'mon... 1m sales in 24 years is not normal. It's not like the album stopped selling, and then streaming appeared which made certifications even easier. 

the 9x platinum doesn't represent complete sales though, it represents shipments. same thing happened with Adele which is why 30 was certified 3x platinum without actually selling 3M units. the album and her catalogue in general has had poor recurrent sales/ streams so it makes sense that the album would be somewhere around 9.75M units but not crossed the diamond threshold yet

 

if it passed 10x platinum it would've been diamond certified. its not some conspiracy against her or the fact those certifications are more expensive

[Richie.Valdez]

[Distantconstellation]

15 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

the 9x platinum doesn't represent complete sales though, it represents shipments. same thing happened with Adele which is why 30 was certified 3x platinum without actually selling 3M units. the album and her catalogue in general has had poor recurrent sales/ streams so it makes sense that the album would be somewhere around 9.75M units but not crossed the diamond threshold yet

 

if it passed 10x platinum it would've been diamond certified. its not some conspiracy against her or the fact those certifications are more expensive

That's not how it works. U don't literally have to be at 10 million to get certified diamond. 9.7 million would be enough and either way if we factor in Apple the album is definitely diamond. The Adele album is a dumb comparison since it's during the streaming era. Christinas sales are like 99% pure sales. 

[Xtripped]

The last SPS numbers leaked are from january 2022 and even then the album was at 9,683,000

 

Pure sales: 8,283,000

SPS sales: 8,748,000

Club sales: 935,000

Total sales: 9,683,000

 

It's clearly this was certified without the music club sales, I mean it's being 9xP elegible since 2001 not to mention Soundscans only covered like 80% of shops during 00s.

 

Maybe it's true the rumor that labels lost access to music club sales data and those figures would not be included or taken into account for future updates. I'm hoping for a  Billboard article with updated SPS numbers.

[brenda-walsh]

10 hours ago, Distantconstellation said:

That's not how it works. U don't literally have to be at 10 million to get certified diamond. 9.7 million would be enough

i'm sorry, but not even you believe this  what kind of dumb logic is this for the RIAA to certify an album without hitting a threshold. whitney's 2nd album sold 9.8M pure sales by the very early 90s and didn't get certified diamond until a few years ago thanks to streaming. the RIAA didn't certify it diamond because guess what, it hadn't crossed 10M sales.

 

the only way that works is when an album is overshipped, like what happened with this album, Adele's 30, and many other albums. hence, why they get certified so large so early on into their album run then fail to cross the next threshold for years. there isn't any conspiracy against Xtina or magical loss of club sales numbers. its simply because the album has yet to cross 10M sales

[brenda-walsh]

the coping from Xtina fans in here when the album just clearly hasn't sold 10M units

 

give it up deelish!

[Cardcaptor Sakura]

Iconic debut. Still sounds fresh. All bops. 

[Bad_vocal_technique]

It just needs a viral revival to get to diamond. Lol 

[Bey_Rihstan]

On 8/21/2024 at 5:25 PM, TheVelvetRope said:

 

MTE  I also remember seeing it specificially at 9xP years ago

that's what it's been on her wikipedia for like 10 years jdlkf;ajdskf 

[Distantconstellation]

Genie in a bottle did 664,130 on spotify yesterday, its biggest day EVER.

the road to 500m will be a breeze.

[supertiffany]

11 hours ago, brenda-walsh said:

i'm sorry, but not even you believe this  what kind of dumb logic is this for the RIAA to certify an album without hitting a threshold. whitney's 2nd album sold 9.8M pure sales by the very early 90s and didn't get certified diamond until a few years ago thanks to streaming. the RIAA didn't certify it diamond because guess what, it hadn't crossed 10M sales.

 

the only way that works is when an album is overshipped, like what happened with this album, Adele's 30, and many other albums. hence, why they get certified so large so early on into their album run then fail to cross the next threshold for years. there isn't any conspiracy against Xtina or magical loss of club sales numbers. its simply because the album has yet to cross 10M sales

uhmm you dont have to sell such amount to be certified

 

many albums are far from selling a platinum but certified with that so

[brenda-walsh]

1 hour ago, supertiffany said:

uhmm you dont have to sell such amount to be certified

 

many albums are far from selling a platinum but certified with that so

tell that to Whitney Houston's second album that was stuck on 9x platinum for 25 years despite being at 9.8M pure sales for all those years 

[°ColdFire°]

On 8/22/2024 at 12:45 PM, Green said:

 

Billboard doesn't count them but the RIAA does

 

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By May of 2018

 

CHRISTINA AGUILERA

ALBUM SALES: 8,273,547
ALBUMS W/TEA 8,506,777
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND AUDIO 8,574,107
ALBUMS W/TEA W/SEA ON-DEMAND 8,619,144  

 

 

8,619,144  (Soundscan) + 935,000 (BMG Music club sales) = 9,554,144

 

this was 6 years ago. The streams of her debut album have increased since then

BMG sales are not counted for RIAA certifications anymore unlike in the past as they deem those sales as "lost". Hence, "Christina Aguilera" needs to reach 10 million units without BMG sales to reach Diamond status. 

 

The same thing happened with Britney's "Britney". The album's sales without club sales are around 4,827,250, so until it reaches 5M units it will not be certified 5xPlatinum despite being well over 5 million with club sales.