Solaria Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She's absolutely right and she should say it. Taylor normalized this type of behavior by making cult fanbases the norm and it infested a generation. 2 3 10
Wicked Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She's right, however she should probably make a sharp decision about this going forward. You can resign from the mainstream, but this is probably a huge adjustment for her. I don't really approach celebrities when I see then, I waved at J. Cole a few weeks ago lol. Only time I have is at the M&G portion of concerts. Most actors I don't bother either, that's more child behavior to me. 6 minutes ago, Windy Day said: there's artists with huge cult following who we don't even know the real name or face because they chose to not fully show themselves even during concerts to protect their privacy? if she didn't want to be recognized in public i simply subject she should stop being active on social medias and stop promoting on TV etc all together The way she could've been the Pop worlds MF DOOM or Mach-Hommy with this approach
Dolce Vita Posted August 19 Posted August 19 she's right. there's this huge interest in her suddenly and it's kinda scary, i think if she were to become reclusive now it would backfire and people would be even more invested, look at how crazy ayesha erotica fans were when she was retired for years…kind of a catch 22 situation for her 3
Digitalism Posted August 19 Posted August 19 I mean I think it's ok that she puts these rules from the begining People usually get angry with artists that take the photos and then one day act mad. But if she tells what she allows from the start people will be for accepting.
Goaty Posted August 19 Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Solaria said: She's absolutely right and she should say it. Taylor normalized this type of behavior by making cult fanbases the norm and it infested a generation. Girl stop this behavior predates Taylor - or any artist from the 21st century, for that matter 1
ariesgroove Posted August 19 Posted August 19 if my own family was being stalked and multiple boundaries i set were being crossed, i would be as pissed off as she is, i don't see anything wrong with what she's saying 3
ImpressMeMuch Posted August 19 Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, Solaria said: She's absolutely right and she should say it. Taylor normalized this type of behavior by making cult fanbases the norm and it infested a generation. Sweetheart this started well, well before Taylor lol
shookspeare Posted August 19 Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, Solaria said: She's absolutely right and she should say it. Taylor normalized this type of behavior by making cult fanbases the norm and it infested a generation. taylor really is constantly on your mind huh 2 10
DevilsRollTheDice Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Rare instance where I see both sides of this...I think being a celebrity would be AWFUL. However, saying borderline rude things directly to fans is not cute. Harassment is one thing, but someone asking a celebrity for a photo is another. She is not a "random woman on the street." She has actively made choices that deliver the opposite result of wanting to be a random woman on the street. I feel for her. It's been a fast rise. I think she needs to take a long hard look at the reality of this gig and make an informed decision as to whether she wants to continue. People aren't overly fond of rich and famous people complaining about something that's completely optional. 9
Popboi. Posted August 19 Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Solaria said: She's absolutely right and she should say it. Taylor normalized this type of behavior by making cult fanbases the norm and it infested a generation. Cult like behavior is not something Taylor started please, huge stardom with crazy fanbase goes back to the 60s, this very forum is proof of that. Also stan twitter with Barbz facing each other in real life for shading Nicki She's speaking up as she should, hope her team gets more security for her as she's only getting bigger from here.
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted August 19 ATRL Moderator Posted August 19 I don't understand people arguing she's in the wrong for saying this? She's entirely entitled to how she feels. I hope she gets a good support system and she's able to handle the storm that, regrettably, comes along with fame because countless people do not understand boundaries. 3 4
Goaty Posted August 19 Posted August 19 4 minutes ago, Wicked said: She's right, however she should probably make a sharp decision about this going forward. I think her only recourse, if she wants to continue her momentum, is to obscure her identity like Daft Punk. She loves the crazy costumes and theatricality of performances anyway, so there'd be so much room to experiment while being able to completely hide her face.
Souvenir Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She will be forgotten by the end of 2025 enjoy these days, sis 7
ImpressMeMuch Posted August 19 Posted August 19 I really hope she has the right people around her, both literally keeping her safe and helping her process all this.
kendoll2001 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She's playing the VMAs, rumoured to have booked the SNL Season Premiere, and we're months away from the inevitable Grammy coronation (let alone incoming noms announcement) Her and her team really need to work hard to find a balance that will work for her to sustain all this — cause the train has already left the building I fear 3
ImpressMeMuch Posted August 19 Posted August 19 14 minutes ago, Matchatea said: She said that if she has to get a bodyguard she will quit… I really think that they need to be careful with the vma performance or skip the red carpet. Bc photographers don't care and will yell, plus fans waiting outside asking for photos and autographs. She doesn't have a bodyguard??? Whew that is unwise, she's fundamentally at the level to need it in public. 1
Sheep Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) 32 minutes ago, fememeist said: So every single person that listens to her songs are allowed to stalk her(even though many people with common sense like you and I would not do that)? It's wrong that she(and every other pop girl) cannot be a regular person who just exists in the world, she's being deprived of her humanity in a sense. However, she's a public figure and going into public means that she's going to be on-call to some degree and liable to adopt her public persona on the spot, that's part of being a public figure for better or worse. She cannot pick and choose when a stranger on the street sees a regular woman and when they see international superstar Chappell Roan. Also there is a difference from just seeing somebody you're a fan of in public and stalking, just as there's a difference between misplaced public displays of adoration from a supporter/fan and harassment. Stalkers can be put in jail whereas regular(but misbehaving) fans cannot. People in the service industry also face an issue similar to this, any waiter or barista will tell you that customers who recognize them outside of work expect them to be equally as friendly and open to interacting in random encounters as they are when they're being paid. It's like a stripper complaining that their clients see them in public and stare at their body; in the mind of this theoretical client, that's who they are and the client doesn't perceive the person behind the entertainer, it would be very strange if you had a personal connection to a stripper in the first place. It's infuriating and indefensible but it just comes with the work. Obviously her issue is magnified 1,000,000x compared to these examples because of her extremely high profile, I'm not trying to minimize anything here. Fame has its trade offs and those trade-offs are widely known by everybody over the age of 10, she didn't necessarily choose to be famous, but she could at any second, choose to no longer be famous. Like others including myself have said, this is a terrible situation right now because she's just getting established and her resources to vanish from public life and her mental health have not yet caught up with her superstar status. I think this video was a bad move because it's just another platform for more interaction with the public, which is her entire issue. Edited August 19 by Sheep 2
wish Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Some of you are so clearly miserable and just looking for an excuse to hate on this woman (or any woman, for that matter) Chappell has every right to speak up on her own discomfort with sudden fame. It's actually refreshing that she's setting boundaries and communicating to her fans about certain behaviors that she is not okay with. Leave her alone. 10
Price of Fame Posted August 19 Posted August 19 oh is this when people start turning on her? It was inevitable but this is not what I thought it'd be over
Matchatea Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, ImpressMeMuch said: She doesn't have a bodyguard??? Whew that is unwise, she's fundamentally at the level to need it in public. Oh for real! Her fans are CRAZY! I remember seeing that she was followed around the airport and they went up to the gate with her! I hope she has ppl who are look it out for her, bc it sounds like this is super overwhelming. 1
Matchatea Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Sheep said: It's wrong that she(and every other pop girl) cannot be a regular person who just exists in the world, she's being deprived of her humanity in a sense. However, she's a public figure and going into public means that she's going to be on-call to some degree and liable to adopt her public persona on the spot, that's part of being a public figure for better or worse. She cannot pick and choose when a stranger on the street sees a regular woman and when they see international superstar Chappell Roan. Also there is a difference from just seeing somebody you're a fan of in public and stalking, just as there's a difference between misplaced public displays of adoration from a supporter/fan and harassment. Stalkers can be put in jail whereas regular(but misbehaving) fans cannot. People in the service industry also face an issue similar to this, any waiter or barista will tell you that customers who recognize them outside of work expect them to be equally as friendly and open to interacting in random encounters as they are when they're being paid. It's like a stripper complaining that their clients see them in public and stare at their body; in the mind of this theoretical client, that's who they are and the client doesn't perceive the person behind the entertainer, it would be very strange if you had a personal connection to a stripper in the first place. It's infuriating and indefensible but it just comes with the work. Obviously her issue is magnified 1,000,000x compared to these examples because of her extremely high profile, I'm not trying to minimize anything here. Like others including myself have said, this is a terrible situation right now because she's just getting established and her resources to vanish from public life and her mental health have not yet caught up with her superstar status. I think this video was a bad move because it's just another platform for more interaction with the public, which is her entire issue. Took the words out of my mouth! Thank you! 1
mons†er Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She should just stop doing music at this point. She's not cut out for it at all. I also don't understand why she's running to Tik Tok. Where is her publicist? Does she not have security? Does she have a therapist?
Windy Day Posted August 19 Posted August 19 stuff like this truly makes me respect artists like billie even more because even though she had to deal with a way bigger fame than chappell from a very young age and was always vocal about the stalking and harassment she's going through, she never blamed it on people who genuinely loved her and never made her fans feel like weirdos for being excited to see her. same thing goes for gaga 6 2
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