UnusualBoy Posted August 19 Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, chaneloberlin said: She complains too much. Olivia had a more controversial lightning bolt thrust-to-fame moment and she didn't talk this much omg Olivia was already a celebrity when DL happened, she was on a Disney show so it's not comparable. 2 1
Popular Post Cruel Summer Posted August 19 Popular Post Posted August 19 When people say this is her job - when does she get to be off the clock? When people say she asked for this - where did she ask for this part of the experience? I get the reactions on both ends here, but seriously, she's literally just a random person who's suddenly dealing with major changes to her everyday life that she clearly wasn't anticipating - or necessarily asking for. 19 1
Princess Aurora Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She's not wrong but she's suddenly a superstar. She better needs media training or become a niche artist If she can't handle fame.
Saint James Posted August 19 Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, chaneloberlin said: She complains too much. Olivia had a more controversial lightning bolt thrust-to-fame moment and she didn't talk this much omg Olivia was built for it, she came from Disney. 2
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 19 Author Posted August 19 6 minutes ago, P!NK2LOVE said: Sigh. I mean it get it… but I also don't. If I wanted to be a superstar I would be THAT star. I wouldn't act like a regular no more. It's cringe… like, you asked for this. Handle it better. i think its easy saying this until you actually get to experience it. imagine having to deal with stalkers who are full blown creeps and weirdos and not feeling safe. imagine your family members not being able to normally do their jobs at work because of harassment. imagine being followed around everywhere you go and having zero privacy. 4
Spicy Pisces Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Her meteoric rise was such, it's very easy to spiral like this if you don't have the guidance to navigate through it. I hope she finds balance and comes out stronger, she has the goods. 3
Paultea Posted August 19 Posted August 19 lol apart from the stalking and doxing, her saying fans are weirdos is so funny to me. Little monsters have 24 hrs to respond with their defense! 4 1
Shimenawa Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She's a popstar... What did she expect? That comes with the territory. She can switch careers if that is difficult for her 1 1
Rhyme Posted August 19 Posted August 19 18 minutes ago, Riverbank said: Part of me still hopes she doesn't let this get to her head and prematurely ruin her career but sadly I can see her puling a Doja Cat soon If by pulling a Doja Cat, you mean standing up for themselves not caring if people think its "unbecoming" of a popstar then yeah. Good for her for not being wanting to be subjugated by stans. 12 1 1
Popular Post PoisonPill Posted August 19 Popular Post Posted August 19 I feel like female celebrities and artists have always felt forced to accept abusive/exploitative fan behavior with a smile, for fear of coming off as a "*****", "diva" or "ungrateful." I'm happy that Chappell is taking a stand early in her career and saying "This is not normal and should not be tolerated just because I make music." Hopefully she can help shift the conversation around parasocial fan relationships, something needs to change. Being a successful artist shouldn't mean living in constant fear for your physical safety. 22 1 1
Peroxide Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) It might be "part of the job" but let's not kid ourselves… celebrity worship culture can be incredibly toxic and some people have absolutely zero respect for boundaries… it IS weird - good for her for being honest about it. I'm a bit disappointed to see so many people scolding her for this… Edited August 19 by Peroxide 3
Cheers Posted August 19 Posted August 19 She acts like she's getting Britney level of paparazzi invasion Here's a solution: step away from the spotlight 7 3 2
Gov Hooka Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Like her and her music but she's not cut out to be a MPG 1
Riverbank Posted August 19 Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, Rhyme said: If by pulling a Doja Cat, you mean standing up for themselves not caring if people think its "unbecoming" of a popstar then yeah. Good for her for not being wanting to be subjugated by stans. More power to her if that's the choice she wants to make. But as I said, it will inevitably hinder her career
Windy Day Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Cruel Summer said: When people say this is her job - when does she get to be off the clock? When people say she asked for this - where did she ask for this part of the experience? I get the reactions on both ends here, but seriously, she's literally just a random person who's suddenly dealing with major changes to her everyday life that she clearly wasn't anticipating - or necessarily asking for. there's artists with huge cult following who we don't even know the real name or face because they chose to not fully show themselves even during concerts to protect their privacy? if she didn't want to be recognized in public i simply subject she should stop being active on social medias and stop promoting on TV etc all together of course i'm not talking about harassing, stalking, and deranged parasocial relationships but that girl is CONSTANTLY complaining about being recognized in public to the point where her own fans are scared of saying hi to her when they see her in festivals. just don't show your face anymore girl, idk what to tell you 😭😭 1 2
Goaty Posted August 19 Posted August 19 All these "but she's a celebrity now! This comes with the territory" responses are asinine when her entire point is to criticize that territory in the first place god forbid she try to assert her boundaries - it's probably not going to work, unfortunately, but I applaud her for trying 9 2
Matchatea Posted August 19 Posted August 19 The vma performance is really gonna push her in the spotlight… I hope she has ppl looking out for her and are preparing her for that.
Jack! Posted August 19 Posted August 19 It's kind of tricky, because she's absolutely right - no one is entitled to someone else's time, whether that be in the form of a handshake, a hug, a photograph, a quick "hello" on the street or just a wave out of a car window. She has the right to get a car to pull up as close to the exit door of her shows so she can hop in and roll the window up and disappear for the night all the wants, completely fine. I can only imagine, regardless of how much you wanted to be a pop star, how overwhelming it must be to have thousands of people wanting to meet you, see you, get a picture with you, hug you etc. But as she's acknowledging fame here, to quote her "I don't care that it's normal for these things to be normal when you're famous, even just a little bit", unfortunately for her, that is the case. And these things won't stop, especially not with a TikTok PSA. And while I'm not denouncing her feelings or anything she said, as she gets bigger she'll need to start to realise and differentiate the fact that not all these experiences are going to be from "creepy people". They're going to be from her fans, people who resonate with her art and message, people who love her and support her career by buying her music or paying for tickets to see her shows. And I'm not insinuating that spending £40 on a vinyl or £100 on a show ticket buys you your favourite artists personal time, but I think she needs to know that she's maybe not as small of an artist anymore than she used to be. This is only the beginning for her, literally. 1 5
blaggot Posted August 19 Posted August 19 there are some points she's made it would have done her better to invest in security rather than address this head on though imo. she's inadvertently feeding the beast 1
Rhyme Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Just now, Riverbank said: More power to her if that's the choice she wants to make. But as I said, it will inevitably hinder her career She's very talented with multiple popular songs right now and on the radar of many major artists. I don't think she cares about some stans.
getBusy Posted August 19 Posted August 19 I get her point but she worded this so poorly. Could just have said "i'm not great at this yet and might need some space" instead of "don't ask me for a photo or yell at me from your car". 1
Matchatea Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, blaggot said: there are some points she's made it would have done her better to invest in security rather than address this head on though imo. she's inadvertently feeding the beast She said that if she has to get a bodyguard she will quit… I really think that they need to be careful with the vma performance or skip the red carpet. Bc photographers don't care and will yell, plus fans waiting outside asking for photos and autographs. Edited August 19 by Matchatea
Dash_inthedark Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) I like her and appreciate her honesty, but I think she still believes it's possible to separate things. The reality is, there's no way around it—she's a celebrity now. She's known and will be recognized wherever she goes. I saw her talk about keeping her artistic persona (Chappell) and her personal self (Kayleigh) as separate entities, and I think she genuinely believed this would be possible, like a skin you can shed when you're off work so you're not bothered. But that's not possible. People will recognize her and give her attention, some good, some bad. Even tho I understand where she's coming from I think she needs to accept that she can't have her normal life back with this kind of success. If she wants peace, she'll need to stay at home or go to places where celebrities have private entrances and guaranteed privacy. If she goes out in public places, she has to be prepared to be recognized, for people to ask for photos or to tell her how much they love her music, and she should be thankful for it since these are the people paying her bills at the end of the day. I understand it must be maddening and even terrifying this part of fame, but truth is every celebrity goes through this. And yes some cracked under the pressure. But there's no escaping it, unfortunately. EDIT: Just to clarify I'm talking about her "normal" fans, not stalkers and creeps, she needs to get security for those that unfortunately also exist whether we like it or not. Edited August 19 by Dash_inthedark 5
Dear Reader Posted August 19 Posted August 19 95% of the people criticizing her for this wouldn't last 2 hours in her shoes. I'm very glad she's speaking up. 1
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