Uncatena Posted August 19 Posted August 19 is this another "ceasefire" offer that doesn't include an actual ceasefire? 2
Virgos Groove Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Does it include, you know, a cessation of fire or is it just another "roll over and die" proposal by the Israelis? 5
Solaria Posted August 19 Posted August 19 Hamas shouldn't agree as long as Israel doesn't remove itself from Gaza COMPLETELY. Which means no military troops deployed along the Egypt border as well. 1 1
Sheep Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) not genocide joe waiting for the election to pump the brakes on state-assisted genocide foul disgusting senile old man if there were still laws in this world he would be put to death, even at his big age warn me i dont give a **** Edited August 19 by Sheep 2 4
karron0624 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1. Lets wait for actual details of what this entails before we call it a ceasefire. 2. For some of yall who dont keep up, something like this was expected because of the peace negotiations taking place. This "was not placed on hold for the election."
Sheep Posted August 19 Posted August 19 6 minutes ago, karron0624 said: For some of yall who dont keep up, something like this was expected because of the peace negotiations taking place. This "was not placed on hold for the election." there was a RAPID 180 in messaging over the last couple months, this is terrorist behavior open your eyes
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 19 Posted August 19 (edited) Every "ceasefire" deal those animals offer is disproportionately on Israel's side and when "Hamas" can't agree to the terms (because it could literally make the future conditions of Palestinians even worse) they seem like the ones who don't want peace. Hamas has one harsh term: Israël should leave Gaza immediately, cease their military operations and cease their operations at the borders of Egypt. Netanyanu's/US term in every "ceasefire deal" is that he wants to finish their milirary operations and "targets" in Gaza without Hamas being able to obtain control in Gaza. Their "operations" to attack "targets" has literally killed over 40.000 innocent people. With approximately 180k severely injured, dead, missing or still unidentified/stuck in the rubble. Why would Hamas agree to terms that dont actually change anything for Gazans? Edited August 19 by KatyPrismSpirit 10
i spit on haters Posted August 19 Posted August 19 31 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: Does it include, you know, a cessation of fire or is it just another "roll over and die" proposal by the Israelis? Most likely. And then they eventually go back to bombing innocent civilians or they offer proposals that only benefits them and makes it appear as though Hamas is the issue, which has happened several times before with israel declining ceasefire deals. Even assassinating top leaders who was in talks with them for a ceasefire. It's always in bad faith and they can't be trusted.
Communion Posted August 19 Posted August 19 So you mean Israel is agreeing to its own demands to alter the UN approved ceasefire that say they don't have to stop invading Gaza? What's interesting is that the response online shows even many "international order" types annoyed with Israel's lying. 4 2
Communion Posted August 19 Posted August 19 So for those wondering: Backing a ceasefire: Hamas, the UN security council, majority of international community Not backing a ceasefire: Israel, America The below timeline is incredibly detailed. 1
karron0624 Posted August 19 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Sheep said: there was a RAPID 180 in messaging over the last couple months, this is terrorist behavior open your eyes Whitehouse messaging has stayed the same (and continues to stay the same). What i said is that this news is coming out of an already scheduled peace conference (which is true), with my very first comment being to review the agreement before calling it a ceasefire. Israel has no reason to give Dems anything considering trump is still a front runner.
Luckitty Posted August 19 Posted August 19 3 hours ago, ChapelHooker said: is this another "ceasefire" offer that doesn't include an actual ceasefire? Yes
Bosque Posted August 20 Posted August 20 According to Sinwar, Hamas will reject the deal and instead attempt to achieve peace by expanding terrorist attacks to the West Bank Quote The mediators say that Sinwar is seeking to intensify pressure on Israel by expanding the conflict beyond Gaza, including by launching attacks from the West Bank. The comments are included in a report on the attempted suicide bombing in Tel Aviv claimed by Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, with Hebrew media outlets identifying the attacker as a Palestinian from the West Bank. https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-claims-attempted-suicide-bombing-as-cease-fire-diplomacy-resumes-f13b4f0f?mod=world_lead_pos1 5
Virgos Groove Posted August 20 Posted August 20 38 minutes ago, Bosque said: According to Sinwar, Hamas will reject the deal and instead attempt to achieve peace by expanding terrorist attacks to the West Bank https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-claims-attempted-suicide-bombing-as-cease-fire-diplomacy-resumes-f13b4f0f?mod=world_lead_pos1 "Instead of accepting peace, Serbia will reject Austria-Hungary's proposal"
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