poll Can TTPD emulate Thriller and 21?'s record by being the #1 album for 2 yrs in a row?

[heckinglovato]

It will be SZA and anyone not saying that probably just forgot SZA will be releasing 

 

Edit: as in 2025 top album will be SZA'S

Edited August 19 by heckinglovato

[sweetenerhouraoty]

no but she'll for sure try (and most likely will get it) to beat 21's weeks at n1, probably holding the anthology vinyls with her life for a key moment when the album will be close to do it 

[Popboi.]

No, any Taylor's Version she drops after the Billboard year deadline would automatically be bigger, also Chappell will displace her next month at current rate, so there's no chance for next year from the get go.

[Popboi.]

34 minutes ago, heckinglovato said:

It will be SZA and anyone not saying that probably just forgot SZA will be releasing 

 

Edit: as in 2025 top album will be SZA'S

Does SZA know she's releasing an album 

[NoOneDiesFromLove]

Yes and no because of Reputa TV and TS12

[NEUTRON]

NO nor should it even be mentioned in the same breath as Thriller

[Doctor Dick]

2 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

I feel like this is only really possible if she delays all physical copies of The Anthology until 2025, then aggressively promotes it with multiple variants with new bonus tracks, multiple vinyl versions, etc. It would be a stretch even then when either of her own rerecordings yet to come, or some unexpectedly huge album from another artist, could still do more.

But all of that would only showcase that she can't do it organically. Thriller and 21 amassed their best-selling status with just hits and organic interest. TTPD should just die a natural death at this point, this strategy of releasing variants to keep its sales healthy is looking so forced and really is harming the album's status. She's basically becoming a punching bag while other albums are looked as bigger and more impressive success stories with better, more organic legs such as even Morgan Wallen's two albums or Charlie XCX's BRAT or Billie Eilish' HMHAS. 

[Taylor fanboy]

Impossible.

[Taylor fanboy]

2 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

But all of that would only showcase that she can't do it organically. 

This line always sounded like a cope to me idk

[Cruel Summer]

9 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

But all of that would only showcase that she can't do it organically. Thriller and 21 amassed their best-selling status with just hits and organic interest. TTPD should just die a natural death at this point, this strategy of releasing variants to keep its sales healthy is looking so forced and really is harming the album's status. She's basically becoming a punching bag while other albums are looked as bigger and more impressive success stories with better, more organic legs such as even Morgan Wallen's two albums or Charlie XCX's BRAT or Billie Eilish' HMHAS. 

I don't think anyone actually cares about how "organic" it feels, and it would have been #1 (on both the Billboard 200 and on Top Streaming Albums) most of its weeks so far without variants anyway, so implying that albums like Brat have "more organic legs" doesn't make literally any sense. Normal people who aren't deeply engaged with music charts or stan communities will only ever hear about records and achievements that come out of this, if even that (most people will barely ever hear about music charts to begin with). This is all literally just a way for her to pad the numbers associated with her career and legacy when people look back one day, and probably more importantly for her to get press as it breaks this record or that record or stays #1.

[Doctor Dick]

4 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I don't think anyone actually cares about how "organic" it feels, and it would have been #1 (on both the Billboard 200 and on Top Streaming Albums) most of its weeks so far without variants anyway, so implying that albums like Brat have "more organic legs" doesn't make literally any sense. Normal people who aren't deeply engaged with music charts or stan communities will only ever hear about records and achievements that come out of this, if even that (most people will barely ever hear about music charts to begin with). This is all literally just a way for her to pad the numbers associated with her career and legacy when people look back one day, and probably more importantly for her to get press as it breaks this record or that record or stays #1.

But the question was if it could be #1 as long as 21 or Thriller and you gave different examples on how to do it all of which are inorganic. I'm just saying that if you need all those tactics that you yourself mentioned in order to come close to those two albums then you don't deserve to be in the conversation or have a record like that. 

[Cruel Summer]

12 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

But the question was if it could be #1 as long as 21 or Thriller and you gave different examples on how to do it all of which are inorganic. I'm just saying that if you need all those tactics that you yourself mentioned in order to come close to those two albums then you don't deserve to be in the conversation or have a record like that. 

Right, that was indeed the question, but your opinion on whether or not the album would "deserve to be in the conversation or have a record like that" is inconsequential if the rules and methodology Billboard and Luminate choose for their own charts says otherwise. Ultimately, if this were to happen, the extremely vast majority of people who ever heard about it wouldn't even read a sentence about the promotional strategies that any of these three artists used to get to that point and wouldn't pass judgment as to the validity of the achievement. Quite simply, as long as she's playing by the rules of the time, it's all fair game.

[LadyDiana]

Yes, cuz she will go back to usa for second leg of eras tour and release a bundle or eras tour live in london amd tortured pets.

[Doctor Dick]

52 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Right, that was indeed the question, but your opinion on whether or not the album would "deserve to be in the conversation or have a record like that" is inconsequential if the rules and methodology Billboard and Luminate choose for their own charts says otherwise. Ultimately, if this were to happen, the extremely vast majority of people who ever heard about it wouldn't even read a sentence about the promotional strategies that any of these three artists used to get to that point and wouldn't pass judgment as to the validity of the achievement. Quite simply, as long as she's playing by the rules of the time, it's all fair game.

Charts and competitions aren't suppose to be fair but I get your point. It's still not as impressive as the other albums. Gaga's BTW is still a million-selling first week by your logic then? 

[tost1]

Don't give her ideas please 

[Tylerbv]

No, unless she does some weird **** with the Anthology vinyls or releases a super deluxe or something.

[laqqinq]

It will likely finish (actually it will) at #1 on BB 200 yearend chart (2024), and maybe top 3, top 5, or top 10 of 2025. The 2 remaining re-recordings will be out by 2025.

 

Also, i don't know when (or if) vinyls and CDs for The Anthology will be released. There still hasn't been a physical release for Midnights 3AM and Til Dawn.

[OrgVisual]

Lol no, she's not even much ahead of Morgan Wallen's last-year album. And she cannot keep releasing variants until 2025 to keep it at the top of the charts.