discussion Where are left-leaning content creators' takes on housing & immigration trends?

[BrentB]

I've literally tried looking for two minutes straight for content made by anyone on the left regarding the current housing crisis, job shortages and influx of immigration in the west. It seems like the only ones that really delving into this & creating daily hot takes on this, with 100k views in under 24hrs, are far-right content creators & grifters....unless I'm missing something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does anyone know of any left-leaning content creators who  have sensible & well-balanced takes on the current housing crisis immigration in west? And why does it seem like they're few and far between? I'm tired of only seeing the current state of the west currently framed from the lens of far-right fascists & I've lost complete & total trust in any of the top left-leaning official news stations out there. 

Edited August 10 by BrentB

[Cain]

They're not making video's on the link between the housing crisis and migration because… it doesn't exist

 

The 'you can't get a house because migrants are taking all of them!' statement is a rightwing rhetoric that has scientifically been disproven. The housing crisis is the result of government's neoliberalisation of the market, leaving investors to build homes for the wealthy because of profit. The result of this is that regular, affordable homes are in shortage rn 

[Sheep]

because its literally not an issue, it's a literal modern day racist/xenophobic scapegoat narrative that you were dumb enough to buy I guess  

Edited August 10 by Sheep

[Sad Beautiful Tragic]

 

The real issue is the rising cost of living, which the government should address. Although we're paying an extortionate amount in taxes, it seems these funds are not being reinvested effectively into the country or local communities. It's also important to note that many immigrants in the UK take on essential jobs, especially in healthcare, that others often don't want to do.

 

The current homelessness problem in England is mostly due to high living costs, particularly in less well-off areas, rather than a lack of housing or food. Whilst there are jobs available, it's clear that many who complain about this situation - especially those with far-right views - are unwilling to take on these roles. In many cases, they also lack the necessary skills or qualifications for more demanding jobs.  

 

[PrettyHurts]

you're watching right wing propaganda. 

[BrentB]

3 minutes ago, Sheep said:

because its literally not an issue, it's a literal modern day racist/xenophobic scapegoat narrative that you were dumb enough to buy I guess  

I get that far right fascist losers are always looking for the next big scapegoat, but I've personally seen for myself an influx of wealthy immigrants who have been buying up the newest real estate that the average Canadian can no longer afford. The user above you mentioned investors only wanting to build homes for the wealthy for profit, but if the wealthy, in question, always seems to be rich, foreign exchange students & families from rich enclaves like Dubai & Saudi Arabia, well then you see why it's not really much of a stretch to "buy" the narrative that influx of immigration and rising house costs could go hand-in-hand. If you're truly here to help dispel misinformation regarding this, you can do so without coming for anyone's intelligence. Not everybody here lives on the internet 25/8

 

12 minutes ago, Cain said:

They're not making video's on the link between the housing crisis and migration because… it doesn't exist

And THAT'S precisely the problem ladies & gents. Because it seems like the left doesn't want to do the hard work to fact-check these idiots with countering viewpoints. These things are not just something "beneath" us that we don't need to dignify. We complain about algorithms flooding our timelines with grifter and fascist content, yet we don't produce enough independant counter-content ourselves to feed into any algorithms to begin with. We've all, by now, seen the effects of leaving misinformation unchecked and laying out for it to fester and trend until it's consumed by a whole new generation.  Our counter-takes SHOULD, most-definitely exist, especially at this current time.

[Cain]

12 minutes ago, BrentB said:

I get that far right fascist losers are always looking for the next big scapegoat, but I've personally seen for myself an influx of wealthy immigrants who have been buying up the newest real estate that the average Canadian can no longer afford. The user above you mentioned investors only wanting to build homes for the wealthy for profit, but if the wealthy, in question, always seems to be rich, foreign exchange students & families from rich enclaves like Dubai & Saudi Arabia, well then you see why it's not really much of a stretch to "buy" the narrative that influx of immigration and rising house costs could go hand-in-hand. If you're truly here to help dispel misinformation regarding this, you can do so without coming for anyone's intelligence. Not everybody here lives on the internet 25/8

 

And THAT'S precisely the problem ladies & gents. Because it seems like the left doesn't want to do the hard work to fact-check these idiots with countering viewpoints. These things are not just something "beneath" us that we don't need to dignify. We complain about algorithms flooding our timelines with grifter and fascist content, yet we don't produce enough independant counter-content ourselves to feed into any algorithms to begin with. We've all, by now, seen the effects of leaving misinformation unchecked and laying out for it to fester and trend until it's consumed by a whole new generation.  Our counter-takes SHOULD, most-definitely exist, especially at this current time.

 

There is content

 

[Princess Aurora]

Actually, there is. Also, I think it's funny the UK still complains about immigration when Brexit was supposed to ''fix'' it, well I guess the EU wasn't the problem after all this time lol.....

 

On the other hand, they're local issues caused by the 2008 financial crisis, cause not every country in the world has the same problem (mostly Western countries are in this situation), and we're still stuck in the same crisis since that year. 

Edited August 10 by Princess Aurora

[Sheep]

25 minutes ago, BrentB said:

I get that far right fascist losers are always looking for the next big scapegoat, but I've personally seen for myself an influx of wealthy immigrants who have been buying up the newest real estate that the average Canadian can no longer afford. The user above you mentioned investors only wanting to build homes for the wealthy for profit, but if the wealthy, in question, always seems to be rich, foreign exchange students & families from rich enclaves like Dubai & Saudi Arabia, well then you see why it's not really much of a stretch to "buy" the narrative that influx of immigration and rising house costs could go hand-in-hand. If you're truly here to help dispel misinformation regarding this, you can do so without coming for anyone's intelligence. Not everybody here lives on the internet 25/8

Canada has some of the most underutilized liveable land in planet earth and is a top exporter of literally everything needed to build homes. The problem is with the market and with wealth consolidation, not with immigration. The link isn't there.  Normally I like your posts but this is propaganda that doesn't hold up to really thinking about it.

 

12 minutes ago, Cain said:

 

There is content

 

Literally the best YouTuber. Protect her at all costs.

Edited August 10 by Sheep

[BrentB]

12 minutes ago, Cain said:

 

There is content

 

Thank you for that sis. I'll look into it & see how that could re-shape my current bias and dispel any myths I may have unintentionally picked up.

 

But If we're really being honest, there's just simply not enough content like this from the left to help drown out the terrifying tsunami of right-wing babble all over social media, that could unfortunatetly, easily rope people into misinformed talking points. And before anyone says "you haven't searched hard enough," in this day and age, where most, if not all, people now consume their daily news and shape their world views from independant news sources, I think it's pretty safe to say that you would want all credible information that fact checks as much misleading narratives to be easily accessable and digestable to the average GP.

[Cain]

1 hour ago, BrentB said:

Thank you for that sis. I'll look into it & see how that could re-shape my current bias and dispel any myths I may have unintentionally picked up.

 

But If we're really being honest, there's just simply not enough content like this from the left to help drown out the terrifying tsunami of right-wing babble all over social media, that could unfortunatetly, easily rope people into misinformed talking points. And before anyone says "you haven't searched hard enough," in this day and age, where most, if not all, people now consume their daily news and shape their world views from independant news sources, I think it's pretty safe to say that you would want all credible information that fact checks as much misleading narratives to be easily accessable and digestable to the average GP.

It's also unfair because it's been shown that platforms like X and YouTube do push rightwing content more

[Bosque]

It is not in their interest to talk about this as it would lose them much of their viewership. YouTube content creators want to get views first, and be informative second. You will never get a full overview of an issue  by watching YouTube content creators who all ascribe to the same political ideology. It's the same thing as if you would only listen to Ron Desantis to get an overview of what's going on Florida, without seeking out other sources that fact check him 

Edited August 10 by Bosque

[Arthoe]

I mean... the thing is that what is causing the WORLDWIDE housing crisis is very obviously not linked to immigration, the cause of it has been eschewed to death in left-leaning circles, but nobody really wanted to listen. Because every country has a housing crisis, regardless of whether they have lax or super strict laws on immigration.

 

The political left has been saying that rich people are systematically trying to make us live in ghettos and create new ghettos. But if you can sell the general public that immigrants are taking away the flats and houses, it's eventually gonna stick because of the pre-conceived notions. 

 

It's end stage respectability projects. People are fraternatizing with the people that are having them enslaved because they're wearing suits and asking nicely. They're keeping up the charade of civility and we've been conditioned that being in a conflict, or openly stating a conflict that we perceive to be unjust/unfair is psychological abuse. 

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4 hours ago, BrentB said:

I've literally tried looking for two minutes straight

Wow, you invested full two (2!) minutes