Joey307 Posted August 7 Posted August 7 16 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: I said I come from a muslim background, not that it's my religion. Don't make assumptions. And why do you act like majority of the countries with Islam as the "state" religion haven't been significantly destabilized because of Western imperialism or by Sovjet colonization? Lol. The muslim world is a chaotic mess because most countries had their resources stolen and are still recovering from years upon years of imperialism. Some are still imperialized. I'm not saying Islam is perfect, nor am I saying muslims don't have obvious issues themselves, but don't leave the obvious out. YOU seem to be leaving the obvious out. Islam ITSELF is imperialistic and has been throughout history. Have you heard of something called The Ottoman Empire? I'm not about to recite history for you, it's not my fault you don't know it. Islam's main goal is to multiply and historically they have multiplied by force. Hope this helps! 5
Dear Reader Posted August 7 Posted August 7 1 minute ago, Mighty Oaks said: THANK YOU! It's like when a celebrity passes away and people say "I don't know who they are but…" - why do they deem it necessary to add that detail before their condolences? Some people should learn the art of knowing when to shut the **** up. But mean gays/girls will always have to throw a snarky comment to be "shady" for "light fun". 3
stevyy Posted August 7 Posted August 7 1 minute ago, Dear Reader said: Frankly, we really don't give a damn about your hatred for Taylor. Your post could've been just this and it would've accomplished the same: What I wanted to say with that is that... there can be banter and what not... but people who would smirk or whatever at the fact that this happened are just as demented as the terrorists themselves. My wish is that every fan deserves to enjoy their favourite artist in concert and should be left alone. I saw that the title of this thread was amended or sth and was controversial (I personally didn't see it)... It's just so shocking that this happened. I feel with the Austrian Swifties who planned to have a great time and were so looking forward to the shows and getting their best life. It's unthinkable what could have happened. I am very happy about the Austrian authorities to have exposed the plot and arrest some of the individuals responsible. That's what I wanted to say. (ATRL doesn't have a good track record when it comes to things like this and remain serious and empathetic). 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 7 Posted August 7 1 minute ago, Patient Zero said: Then why isn't the mess staying in muslim countries? https://europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/parallel-law-the-rise-of-sharia-councils-in-the-uk/ https://www.gbnews.com/news/hamas-support-uk-muslims-poll What's your excuse for this "mess", as you call it yourself? It's not happening in muslim countries. It's happening here. Generally speaking muslims do not want sharia in Europe. That's false propaganda zionists spew. The vast-majority just wants to practice their human right, which is freedom of religion, a fundamental right conform to European law. Posting two clips of some Salafi's spewing gibberish doesn't prove anything as it does not even represent the overall interests of muslims in Europe. You need to learn to conflate extremists from the general public. Quit demonizing all muslims because of your piss poor experience with Islam and find other ways to heal. 1 2
Dear Reader Posted August 7 Posted August 7 Just now, stevyy said: What I wanted to say with that is that... there can be banter and what not... but people who would smirk or whatever at the fact that this happened are just as demented as the terrorists themselves. My wish is that every fan deserves to enjoy their favourite artist in concert and should be left alone. I saw that the title of this thread was amended or sth and was controversial (I personally didn't see it)... It's just so shocking that this happened. I feel with the Austrian Swifties who planned to have a great time and were so looking forward to the shows and getting their best life. It's unthinkable what could have happened. I am very happy about the Austrian authorities to have exposed the plot and arrest some of the individuals responsible. That's what I wanted to say. (ATRL doesn't have a good track record when it comes to things like this and remain serious and empathetic). I understand everything you're saying, but you have to agree it's a bit weird to start your post the way you did.
ariananext Posted August 7 Posted August 7 These people don't give a single **** about human lives, the piece of **** who did the Manchester bombing killed himself in the attack, and he was helped by his own brother. There's absolutely zero humanity in these people, there's no room for compassion in their hearts, there's truly no words to express how vile these people are. 10
stevyy Posted August 7 Posted August 7 Just now, Dear Reader said: I understand everything you're saying, but you have to agree it's a bit weird to start your post the way you did. My intention was to show that even when you dislike someone or whatever, that it is these type of events which should bring ppl together and kick them out of their hate-loop. I agree that my 1st sentence wasn't the smartest. 3 1
SlimyGhoul Posted August 7 Posted August 7 Oh my god. So glad they found this out and everyone is safe. I'm sure Taylor is really shaken up too. :( I feel so badly for her.
Dear Reader Posted August 7 Posted August 7 1 minute ago, stevyy said: My intention was to show that even when you dislike someone or whatever, that it is these type of events which should bring ppl together and kick them out of their hate-loop. I agree that my 1st sentence wasn't the smartest. We're on the same page now. All good! 1
cat1867 Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) Self radicalized terrorists, school shooters, and the assassins are all bird of the feather. They are basically just angry young men who despise the world. They decide they want to die but they want to have the world remember their name and want to make others suffer as they believed they suffered. The cause they claim as justification is just a excuse. It could be islam, white supremacy, hatred of the disabled, hatred of the right ,hatred of the left, and tons of other things. If it wasn't one cause it would be another. We shouldn't spread their names or talk about their causes. It just gives these pathetic losers attention which is their really motivation. Edited August 7 by cat1867 5 1
Badgalbriel Posted August 7 Posted August 7 52 minutes ago, bjorn said: If she keeps cancelling more shows she won't have that 2B tour gross left.. would be a crime if it ends up at 1.9 Jesus.... Her haters are so f-ing stupid
RideOrDie Posted August 7 Posted August 7 Just now, ariananext said: These people don't give a single **** about human lives, the piece of **** who did the Manchester bombing killed himself in the attack, and he was helped by his own brother. There's absolutely zero humanity in these people, there's no room for compassion in their hearts, there's truly no words to express how vile these people are. organized religion is a cult operating under psychosis, you lose your humanity and self in those conditions 9 1 1
BeenTheShit Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) I'm honestly beginning to wonder if the rest of the tour will also be canceled. There's no way I'd be able to perform anymore with the thought of a possible terrorist attack looming in my mind during every single show. Edit: And I'm not saying she would never tour again, but that she would end this tour early, take a long break, and then tour again when things settle down in the world. Edited August 7 by BeenTheShit
Badgalbriel Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) 15 minutes ago, stevyy said: I am the biggest Taylor hater ever... even tho I stream her music... and I have to say this: People who plan an attack on a concert are demented and deserve to be jailed forever. In this case: People were so looking forward for the shows and they were robbed of the experience. How demented must one be to plan something like this? Seriously. Has the world gone mad? Why does your opinion on Taylor matter again? Edited August 7 by Badgalbriel
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Joey307 said: YOU seem to be leaving the obvious out. Islam ITSELF is imperialistic and has been throughout history. Have you heard of something called The Ottoman Empire? I'm not about to recite history for you, it's not my fault you don't know it. Islam's main goal is to multiply and historically they have multiplied by force. Hope this helps! If you don't want to recite history why do you even focus on Islam? It significantly pales in comparison to the terror and horror the world has seen in the name of other ideologies like Western-nationalism or Western-capitalism. The most violent wars throughout modern history and even now, that caused the most casualties were not even fought in the name of Islam. Edited August 7 by KatyPrismSpirit
Club classic Posted August 7 Posted August 7 this is horrible and definitely not the time to joke. I feel bad for her, it must be really hard to process something like this and I know a lot of fans were really looking forward to the show. 2
ariananext Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RideOrDie said: organized religion is a cult operating under psychosis, you lose your humanity and self in those conditions And these people are 17 and 19 years old, like how the hell are they being raised like this. It's truly out of this world, truly impossible to fathom. Edited August 7 by ariananext
Popboi. Posted August 7 Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: I'm honestly beginning to wonder if the rest of the tour will also be canceled. There's no way I'd be able to perform anymore with the thought of a possible terrorist attack looming in my mind during every single show. Considering the magnitude and length of the tour, best believe chances are there's been several similar threats that were shut down in time. Terrorist attacks have been on every performer's mind and security logistic since Manchester.
Hurem Posted August 7 Posted August 7 Let me try and guess the religion of the arrested suspects… sigh. I ******* hate religion and all those who made me feel bad over the years for being vocal about how bad religion is. 5
stevyy Posted August 7 Posted August 7 Just now, Badgalbriel said: Why does your opinion on Taylor matter again? it doesn't. I wanted to say exactly that. In events such as this one... it doesn't matter what you think about anyone, it matters that you feel glad that the Austrian authorities could prevent anything from happening. And it matters that you say that you are genuinely sorry that it happened because you understand that seeing your favourite artist in concert is an amazing thing and it is important that you acknowledge that a lot of people are sad now. It is important to acknowledge that safety is the most important thing. The alternative would have been one of the darkest times in our collective memory. in short: Think of Taylor whatever you want if people plan a terrorist attack, you stand with Taylor and her fans against that and with empathy.
The Music Industry Posted August 7 Posted August 7 4 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: I'm honestly beginning to wonder if the rest of the tour will also be canceled. Don't plant that seed
RideOrDie Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ariananext said: And these people are 17 and 19 years old, like how the hell are they being raised like this. It's truly out of this world, truly impossible to fathom. indoctrination and brainwashing have to happen young Edited August 7 by RideOrDie
Joey307 Posted August 7 Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: If you don't want to recite history why do you even focus on Islam? It significantly pales in comparison to the terror and horror the world has seen in the name of other ideologies like Western-nationalism or Western-capitalism. The most violent wars throughout modern history that caused the most casualties were not even fought in the name of Islam. Because we're not talking about other ideologies we're talking about Islam. Stay on topic
BeenTheShit Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Popboi. said: Considering the magnitude and length of the tour, best believe chances are there's been several similar threats that were shut down in time. Terrorist attacks have been on every performer's mind and security logistic since Manchester. I doubt anything came remotely close to this terrorist attack in Vienna though. This was a full-scale coordinated terrorist attack, not some one off lone wolf. 3 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: Don't plant that seed I know but I can't help but wonder where things go from here. Edited August 7 by BeenTheShit
Katygato Posted August 7 Posted August 7 I hope everybody who was supposed to be there is okay, from Taylor herself to the audience. I can't even imagine how they must be feeling right now.
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