news Hamas military commander Muhammad Deif and Ismail Haniyeh confirmed dead

[State of Grace.]

1 hour ago, Communion said:

Thank you for this. It's clear the goal of the Israeli regime is not to broker peace and obtain justice for Israelis and Palestinians killed. 

 

Israeli society is cratering and falling apart over the reality of what their society is doing to Palestinians with the expose of rape being used as a systematic tool for torture in Sde Teiman and the leadership of the regime have decided the humiliation and eventual destruction of the Palestinian people is the only way to bond back Israeli society together. So they murder Palestinian figureheads instead of negotiating ceasefire and embarrassing Biden-Harris. 

 

This is highly embarrassing for the US (effectively delegitimizing their claims that Bibi supported a ceasefire and nullifying any reason why Arab Americans would vote for Harris in Michigan) and will only escalate the conflict based on reactions thus far. 

 

 

 

Exactly. Israel just killed any chance of a ceasefire after they spent months rejecting ALL offers to bring the hostages home in exchange for one. 

 

I wonder if the so called progressive Liberals here do realize that Israel dragging America into a regional war would basically hand the presidency to Trump on a silver plate? As long as Biden/Harris keep repeating statements like "Israel has every right to defend itself" and "no limits" policy. 

 

Now I obviously don't think Iran is going to go to war over Haniyeh, but the two assassinations within 12 hours and the bombings of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen in the span of days are only further strengthening the resistance groups.

Edited July 31 by State of Grace.

[State of Grace.]

1 hour ago, Shelter said:

There would never be peace with people like him.  

Lies, lies, and more lies.

 

Hamas has repeatedly offered all hostages back for a permanent ceasefire. And it gets rejected every single time. +10 deals have been rejected since October. They never wanted to stop the genocide. There are literally Israeli officials on camera saying that they are not stopping even if they get the hostages back.

 

There would never be peace because Israel does not want peace. There would never be peace in the region as long as Israel exists.

[i spit on haters]

18 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

 

 

There would never be peace because Israel does not want peace. 

Exactly. Bibi himself has been actively working against a two-state solution for decades. Israel has never wanted peace. Bibi wants the wars to continue because he benefits a great deal from the wars and will do any and everything to hold on to power (and to stay out of prison). Those jews are just pawns to him. And quite frankly, useful idiots, too. Their thirst and lust for bloodshed and carnage is chilling. But, again, this is who they are. But it's "antisemitism" when it's done to them, even in retaliation. Then suddenly, they're the 'victims'.   

Edited July 31 by i spit on haters

[Bosque]

7 minutes ago, i spit on haters said:

Those jews are just pawns to him. And quite frankly, useful idiots, too. Their thirst and lust for bloodshed and carnage is chilling. But, again, this is who they are.

Insanely antisemitic post, I guess we're past the point of pretending that we are talking about "Zionists"

Edited July 31 by Bosque

[i spit on haters]

4 minutes ago, Bosque said:

Insanely antisemitic post, I guess we're past the point of pretending that we are talking about "Zionists"

lol, exactly. And yes, those jews in Israel are pawns to Bibi. He just used them for his image last week when he brought that hostage to the U.S. with him. Even after other Israeli jews (all mostly Zionists, too) didn't think it was a good idea. So yes, they are pawns and useful idiots like I said. Bibi couldn't care less about the remaining hostages. The IDF even shot and bombed their own people. More than they rescued. That's on them. 

[Archetype]

7 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

That's what you got from my post? The worms in your brains aren't bouncing around enough.

So Israel killing innocent babies and kids can be justified on the notion… they can't try to become terrorists when they grow up. Reason 97399 why Israel is a terror state 

No not at all, I agree with you.  He was just a figurehead but he was also not a good person by any means.  Israel is definitely a terror state.  Most of my responses to this topic are explaining why people do what they do, not defending why they did it.

4 hours ago, Communion said:

The criticism for assassinating him is because he was largely - ironically - probably the figurehead most removed from the actual planning of 10/07 and was the most moderate voice in terms of pushing for and actively negotiating a ceasefire. 

 

If Israel wanted justice for the civilians killed on 10/07, they'd move forward with the ceasefire and see it to that Hamas' leaders and Israel's own faced judgement under an international court. 

 

But they didn't assasinate him because they want justice for 10/07. They assasinatef him because Israel again wants the total elimination of the entire Palestinian people and will never agree to a ceasefire. They just air striked the man who was the person at the negotiating table for Palestine while Bibi refused to accept any plan support led by the global community. 

I agree 100%

[AvadaKedavra]

Hamas and the Israeli goverment deserve fire and punishment for all the awful things they did to the innocent palestinians and the israeli people  

[Kitboga]

Another precision strike carried out by the IDF 

 

Say what you will about him, but Bibi's conduct and governance regarding this conflict has been superb.
 

We basically never seen this many terrorist leaders getting taken out in such short timeframes. 

Edited July 31 by Kitboga

[Communion]

3 minutes ago, Kitboga said:

Another precision strike carried out by the IDF 

 

Say what you will about him, but Bibi's conduct and governance regarding this war has been superb. We rarely see so many terrorist leaders getting taken out in such short timeframes. 

Waiting 6 months to reveal one's dupe is wild. Let alone to celebrate genocide. 

[Kitboga]

Just now, Communion said:

Waiting 6 months to reveal one's dupe is wild. Let alone to celebrate genocide. 

What are you talking about lol 

 

I've already wrote a lengthy essay on the helzbola leader thread about why this is clearly not genocide; and what not even related to this post anyway, we're talking about the preciseness in which the idf was able to target and kill the political leaders in one strike, which is objective true. The strikes has been clean and effective period. 

[State of Grace.]

2 hours ago, Kitboga said:

What are you talking about lol 

 

I've already wrote a lengthy essay on the helzbola leader thread about why this is clearly not genocide; and what not even related to this post anyway, we're talking about the preciseness in which the idf was able to target and kill the political leaders in one strike, which is objective true. The strikes has been clean and effective period. 

And you did not reply to my quote showing the scale of destruction in Gaza and how the IDF attacks are NOT "target oriented and careful".

 

So I'll say it here again, **** your dupe ass and **** all the bloodthirsty genocidal ghouls like you. Your time will come soon enough.

[Communion]

3 hours ago, Kitboga said:

why this is clearly not genocide

International courts and experts on genocide disagree.

 

Israeli leaders' own statements about the intent to exterminate the Palestinian people, the tactics used to sadistically torture the Palestinian people, and nearly 10% of Gaza dying as a result of Israel's actions across 10 months all speak to the reality of this horrific genocide.

[Bosque]

It has now been confirmed that Muhammad Deif, commander of the military wing of Hamas is also dead

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/01/world/israel-hamas-iran-haniyeh-gaza

 

Let's commemorate this austere religious scholar and moderate pro-peace voice.