Vegvisir Posted July 30 Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, Bosque said: Hezbollah, a terror group funded by Iran has been illegally occupying Lebanese territory for decades. In 2006, there was a UN resolution unanimously passed that obligated the UN to disarm Hezbollah (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1701). The UN has failed utterly in this task and Hezbollah has been continuously arming themselves, murdering people who belong to a different religion, and bombing Israel almost every day, resulting in the displacement of currently about 90,000 Israelis. 2 days ago, Hezbollah bombed a playground in Golan Heights, killing 12 children and wounding dozens of others. They also bombed another kibbutz in Israel yesterday, resulting in the death of a civilian. In retaliation, Israel today carried out a strike on Beirut that killed the most senior military commander of Hezbollah who was responsible for the Golan Heights bombing. I'm truly shocked at how brazenly you share and spread Zionist propaganda on ATRL. Everything you've said here is a blatant lie, and also laughably close to the SAME lies used against Palestine. 2
Bosque Posted July 30 Posted July 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, Vegvisir said: I'm truly shocked at how brazenly you share and spread Zionist propaganda on ATRL. Everything you've said here is a blatant lie, and also laughably close to the SAME lies used against Palestine. Every word I said was true and you know it hopefully one day, better sooner than later, Lebanon will be free of the Hezbollah terrorists Edited July 30 by Bosque 5
Vegvisir Posted July 30 Posted July 30 1 minute ago, Bosque said: Every word I said was true and you know it hopefully one day, better sooner than later, Lebanon will be free of the Hezbollah terrorists Hopefully one day, better sooner than later, the world will be free of the Israeli terrorist state. 3
Kitboga Posted July 30 Posted July 30 (edited) The strike killed the terrorist leader & the intended target that's how you know Israel's strikes have always been specifically targets-oriented and carefully planned. civilian casualties are unfortunately always going to happen in war, sure. But they're not indiscriminate bombing like so many of you trying so hard to portray. They didn't fire wildly into a football field for the purpose of inflicting deaths, for example. Edited July 30 by Kitboga 13
bad guy Posted July 30 Posted July 30 1 hour ago, DuffStan said: Thank you. This is way too surreal. I am disgusted and saddened for my country today. No one deserves to live this DAILY fear of death. I have a friend who was born and raised in Beirut (and lives there now) so I've heard many stories over the years. The amount of stories I've heard about Israeli forces planting car bombs in suburban areas, like it's just the norm. Just horrible. There was also Lebanese Christians that I was friends with in high school and their family moved to France and then the US after their neighborhood kept getting bombed by Israel. It's very sad to hear from Lebanese people I know about what the country used to be and where it is now, but I hope one day it can be safe from the violence of its neighbors. 2
bad guy Posted July 30 Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Kitboga said: that's how you know Israel's strikes have always been specifically targets-oriented and carefully planned. 40k civilian casualties in Gaza alone is carefully planned? Surely you don't believe this 4 4
Virgos Groove Posted July 30 Posted July 30 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kitboga said: The strike killed the terrorist leader & the intended target that's how you know Israel's strikes have always been specifically targets-oriented and carefully planned. civilian casualties are unfortunately always going to happen in war, sure. But they're not indiscriminate bombing like so many of you failed to comprehend. The IDF has killed 40,000 Gazans since October (with Lancet estimating 186,000 direct and indirect deaths). What you're saying isn't just wrong, it's genocide denial. Edited July 30 by Virgos Groove 3 7
State of Grace. Posted July 30 Author Posted July 30 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Kitboga said: The strike killed the terrorist leader & the intended target The aren't enough words to describe Zionists like you -ing as the attack has killed a woman and two children so far and counting. Trust and believe history will not be kind to you. Quote They didn't fire wildly into a football field for the purpose of inflicting deaths, for example. They only airstriked a large a residential neighbourhood where families and children lived. How nice of them! Edited July 30 by State of Grace. 2 2
Popular Post Communion Posted July 30 Popular Post Posted July 30 ATRL really can't claim to care about the lives of Palestinians while letting @Gui Blackout and @Bosque continue to be members. I'm sorry but it's ridiculous at this point. 8 7
Vegvisir Posted July 30 Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Communion said: ATRL really can't claim to care about the lives of Palestinians while letting @Gui Blackout and @Bosque continue to be members. I'm sorry but it's ridiculous at this point. People get warning points and bans for mocking Taylor Swift, but apparently genocide denial and propaganda spreading isn't against the rules! Absolutely disgusted these losers are still here. 8
Kitboga Posted July 30 Posted July 30 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said: The IDF has killed 40,000 Gazans since October (with Lancet estimating 186,000 direct and indirect deaths). What you're saying isn't just wrong, it's genocide denial. Wow wow hold it right there, let's not throw at people with opposing view points the most heinous thing you could think of, and assume maximum negative intentions at the first chance you get. firstly, Ive already said that civilian casualties died & it is unfortunate, so how can I be "denying" when I literally acknowledged the tragedy? What I disagree on is the motive and intention, and that's a political discussion. You don't get to shut down political discussions with buzzwords. secondly: why do I say the IDF had been target oriented and careful? Because it is true: The argument im about to make is purely factual and numbers-based. Please refrain from unmaking emotions and feelings based rebuttals, there has been so much of that and not enough statistic-only arguments. the British RAF indiscriminately bombed Dresden, a German city with 500k people, for one day. The casualties? 40k dead. the German Luftwaffle indiscriminately bombed Stalingrad, a city with 460k people, for one day. The casualties? 70k dead. so for Israel to be bombing Gaza, *the most populated area on earth* for almost 9 months straight, and still didn't inflict as much damage as what the old ass weapons of ww2 had inflicted in one day? That tells you that the IDF very much had been careful and specific with its targeting. Yes, 40k deaths is A LOT and a gigantic tragedy, and none should've died, but obvious truth is that if Israel was indeed bombing Gaza indiscriminately, there wouldn't even be any intact buildings or any souls left in Gaza with a 9-months long bombing using modern bombs. and again, I'm speaking about the intentions & carefulness of the IDF and the ->carefulness & intentions <- only. "Genocide" is so far detached from the world we live in that it might as well be universes away. Edited July 30 by Kitboga 2 5
Communion Posted July 30 Posted July 30 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Kitboga said: that's how you know Israel's strikes have always been specifically targets-oriented and carefully planned. Do you know how perverse this kind of trolling is? How craven and morally hollow people still have to be to go trolling in support of the Zionist regime while its top political leaders openly argue in their parliament that rape and sexual torture are justified means of torture against Palestinians? And where the minority who speak out against these views are being threatened with violence as hoards of Zionists take to the streets to celebrate the men accused of raping an illegally held Palestinian so violently they had to be hospitalized?? To openly support Israel at this point is to support rape. It is to support murder. It is to support genocide. The political establishment of Israel is arguing "you're asking if anal rape is too much? Nothing is too much [to inflict] on the Palestinian!!!". Israel has reached exterminationist rhetoric. To defend Israel is to openly co-sign the slaughter and rape of the Palestinian people. if you support the Israeli regime, you support the ongoing attempt to exterminate all Palestinians. Edited July 30 by Communion 5 2
Communion Posted July 30 Posted July 30 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Vegvisir said: People get warning points and bans for mocking Taylor Swift, but apparently genocide denial and propaganda spreading isn't against the rules! Absolutely disgusted these losers are still here. Genuinely disturbing how the most horrific news in the last 10 months is coming out of Israel right now with mainstream Israeli publications now admitting their sources have long corroborated months of reports of mass rapes happening in the Sde Teiman torture camps. Where people - teenagers even - are tortured in the style of horrors like Abu Ghraib. Israel's military branch only intervening now because of reports of a set of soldiers spreading a video on Telegram where they're sodomizing a Palestinian by literally putting a phone inside of him, "calling" the phone to hear it ring from him, and being unable to get the phone out themselves. And yet mysteriously in this last same 48 hours that has rocked Israeli society, ATRL is now flooded with literal fake news about Palestinians chanting "Heil Hitler" and a hyper-drive of propaganda with people literally arguing Israel is "showing restraint" in their airstrikes and that "most casualties are due to Hamas putting civilians in harm's way". A thread will get 5 pages if it's believed a Muslim has committed a hate crime in Europe (only for it to die quietly when it comes out said person was not a Muslim) yet society-shaking revelations about the Israeli police state and systematic torture of over 10,000+ Palestinians that Israel is illegally holding come to light and suddenly no one is interested. Edited July 30 by Communion 7 2
State of Grace. Posted July 30 Author Posted July 30 44 minutes ago, Kitboga said: the IDF very much had been careful and specific with its targeting. if Israel was indeed bombing Gaza indiscriminately, there wouldn't even be any intact buildings or any souls left in Gaza with a 9-months long bombing using modern bombs. "Genocide" is so far detached from the world we live in that it might as well be universes away. Yup, this looks very "target oriented and careful". **** you. Can't wait for your dupe ass to get banned. 5 4
Phaunzie Posted July 31 Posted July 31 Not Miss @Bosque, doing damage control. Are we surprised Miss Israel is still committing war crimes while participating in the Olympics? So much for worldly love. Properly a Spring Breakers Fan 1
Phaunzie Posted July 31 Posted July 31 3 hours ago, Communion said: And yet mysteriously in this last same 48 hours that has rocked Israeli society, ATRL is now flooded with literal fake news about Palestinians chanting "Heil Hitler" and a hyper-drive of propaganda with people literally arguing Israel is "showing restraint" in their airstrikes and that "most casualties are due to Hamas putting civilians in harm's way". Wait is that the reason, I can't see that thread? So it was fake like I thought it was because we all know if it was real, CNN, USA Today and NBC would have that footage plastered across our screens. 1
ForgottenSoul Posted July 31 Posted July 31 (edited) 22 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Babes the bothsides-ing doesn't make you look smarter than the rest. There is only one terrorist state casually bombing its surrounding countries here and it should be abolished. Shows how ignorant you are if you think Hezbollah is not firing rockets at Israel 24/7 You dont think Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorist groups? They are. Edited July 31 by ForgottenSoul 2 3
Letemtalk Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Israel bombing a civilian area again. What a surprise. When your own state is based on a racial hierarchy, and you see other ethnic groups as sub human, and you are a nuclear armed regional superpower, and you are backed by the worlds only global superpower, that appears to be what you do, because western governments and western media are frightened to criticise you. You can be sure that the Biden/Harris government had been briefed and 100% supported the attacks carried out with US weapons, although I'm sure someone from the state department will make some vague statement about urging restraint "from all sides".
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