Mariya Takeuchi Posted July 22 Posted July 22 Jamila Abdi, 21, was having a discussion about a football match on X (formerly known as Twitter) on 27 August 2023 and used the n-word to refer to Black footballer Alexander Isak. "I'm so p***** off let me get my hands on that f**** n***a," Ms Abdi, who lives in London, wrote. The Metropolitan Police called her in for questioning in December 2023 and she was charged under the Communications Act of 1988 this month. Although no one was tagged in the post, the Metropolitan Police has alleged in documents seen by The Independent that the post "conveyed a message which was indecent or grossly offensive for the purpose of causing distress of anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom (...) intended (...)". A Crown Prosecution Service spokesperson said: "Hate crime has a profound impact on victims and communities. "Being from an ethnic minority background does not provide a defence to racially abusing someone." Abdi is due to appear in court on 8 August. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/black-woman-charged-after-using-n-word-on-social-media/ar-BB1qpUBz?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=44823c272cc14ce29d595765085296e3&ei=61
RideOrDie Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Badger said: How many white people get charged for this not enough 5
Almighty Gaga Posted July 22 Posted July 22 There must be more to this story? Because why is the police just randomly going back 4 months in the tweet history of a random person
Finish Ticket Posted July 22 Posted July 22 could they not use this energy to actually tackle the genuine hate speech on that app? it's not like they'd have to look hard to find people being blatantly racist, homophobic and transphobic! 2
ATRL Moderator Tsareena Posted July 22 ATRL Moderator Posted July 22 not a single black person in the police force to explain the difference in black people using the word vs others and the context of her post 3 1
SignificantOther Posted July 22 Posted July 22 53 minutes ago, Tsareena said: not a single black person in the police force to explain the difference in black people using the word vs others and the context of her post The law obviously can't make a difference.
Sannie Posted July 22 Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said: Thank god the US has the First Amendment. Yeah, because it's so important for white people to be able to say the n-word... 1 1 1 2
Robert Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 hours ago, Almighty Gaga said: There must be more to this story? Because why is the police just randomly going back 4 months in the tweet history of a random person This. Like knife crime is at an all time high and cyclists are stealing a phone in London every 6 minutes. Where are they finding the time to go through random tweets? If they wanna tackle racism, go start with all the Reform supporters who happily wish death on refugees. 2
Princess Aurora Posted July 22 Posted July 22 The question is: How many Reform UK members have been charged so far?
Horizon Flame Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sannie said: Yeah, because it's so important for white people to be able to say the n-word... Huh? Yes, freedom of speech is totally important. Government has no business playing the thought police. These are Soviet-style tactics. Freedom of expression is paramount. Had she used a slur for white people, she would also be prosecuted. This incident is a perfect example of why hate speech laws are ridiculous. You fight speech with speech. You don't allow the government to come in and put people in jail for because what you say/think isn't popular. The government is not there to be your babysitter. It opens the door for them to prosecute speech in regards to opinion of the government. All the people who go off about Israel can be arrested for antisemitism. Who gets to decide what is hate and what isn't? It's subjective and allows government too much control. It's dangerous. Edited July 22 by Horizon Flame 1 1
SignificantOther Posted July 22 Posted July 22 24 minutes ago, Sannie said: Yeah, because it's so important for white people to be able to say the n-word... You can't make a law banning only one race from saying a word. Either all people can say it or no one can say it. 1
SignificantOther Posted July 22 Posted July 22 8 minutes ago, Horizon Flame said: Huh? Yes, freedom of speech is totally important. Government has no business playing the thought police. These are Soviet-style tactics. Freedom of expression is paramount. Had she used a slur for white people, she would also be prosecuted. This incident is a perfect example of why hate speech laws are ridiculous. I don't understand leftists who support hate speech laws. Imagine how they would be used in the US against pro-Palestinian people. 2
Armani? Posted July 22 Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, SignificantOther said: You can't make a law banning only one race from saying a word. Either all people can say it or no one can say it. Sure, everyone can say it but the implications are obviously different. Let's not be dense.
NEUTRON Posted July 22 Posted July 22 3 hours ago, Badger said: How many white people get charged for this Not enough.
SignificantOther Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Armani? said: Sure, everyone can say it but the implications are obviously different. Let's not be dense. But if you call someone the n-word, the law can't discriminate and treat the person who said it differently based on their race. Same thing if someone uses a slur against gays, the law can't discriminate between gays and straights saying it. People just shouldn't use slurs, regardless of their race, their gender or their sexuality. Edited July 22 by SignificantOther 1
Saintlor Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SignificantOther said: But if you call someone the n-word, the law can't discriminate and treat the person who said it differently based on their race. Same thing if someone uses a slur against gays, the law can't discriminate between gays and straights saying it. People just shouldn't use slurs, regardless of their race, their gender or their sexuality. A lot of girls on social media are often using homophobic language and just claiming they're bi so it's okay to say it I guess with the N word usage, this could also trickle into mixed black people who are white passing (or barely look black), would they be reprimanded for their usage? Eg: Would the law not allow biracial Halsey to say it, not Mariah Carey, but maybe Tinashe say it and definitely Bob Marley say it? How would reprimanding usage of the N word work here? Edited July 22 by Saintlor
Armani? Posted July 22 Posted July 22 15 minutes ago, SignificantOther said: But if you call someone the n-word, the law can't discriminate and treat the person who said it differently based on their race. Same thing if someone uses a slur against gays, the law can't discriminate between gays and straights saying it. People just shouldn't use slurs, regardless of their race, their gender or their sexuality. If that was a actual law in the US, it would mainly be Black people being sentenced for it which is counterproductive because the way in which is used is not black or white
SignificantOther Posted July 22 Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, Saintlor said: A lot of girls on social media are often using homophobic language and just claiming they're bi so it's okay to say it I guess with the N word usage, this could also trickle into mixed black people who are white passing (or barely look black), would they be reprimanded for their usage? Eg: Would the law not allow biracial Halsey to say it, not Mariah Carey, but maybe Tinashe say it and definitely Bob Marley say it? How would reprimanding usage of the N word work here? And I don't think anyone wants judges determining who is black enough to say something. Imagine the mess that would become. 1
Bosque Posted July 22 Posted July 22 (edited) Insulting and threatening someone on the internet is the same as insulting someone in real life and it certainly carries the risk of being prosecuted in many countries. Whether those penalties are applied evenly is certainly a conversation worth having, but it doesn't exempt her from the consequences of her actions. If a white man had said those exact words, ATRL would mostly be in agreement with the police. Is anyone here willing to argue that the law should be applied differently to black people and white people? Edited July 22 by Bosque 2
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