discussion Unpopular opinions gay men aren't ready to hear

[AaronBryceSufjan]

surrogacy is exploitation of underprivileged women, not your rights to have kids. (tho 99% of surrogacy clients are heterosexual couples)

[Mtjjproducer]

9 hours ago, no_better said:

Oh, sorry - I haven't heard of JoJo Levesque before, so I'm not going to speak on her. But the rest of the artists I have heard of and it takes guts to call out people on having trash music taste while also listening to those artists

That signature is from like 2015. And even then most of those artist have produced better music circuit party music yq people are trying to Stan today. 
 

Only people who I know and remember in my sig are Jojo Travis garland Dawn Richard, xtina and tinashe and I think Drake is in that list cause I was obsessed with if ur reading this… at the time.  And I know for a fact that music is better than the unzit unzit popper induced music you are trying to defend. Go play that auto tuned brat album. 

[JoeAg]

13 hours ago, dinorhino said:

Negative stereotypes amongst gay men of bi men come from them being almost entirely heteronormative and reserving serious long-term relationships for the opposite sex only and treating same-sex partners frivolously and only for hook ups, not because of biphobia. Data very clearly shows mating patterns amongst bi people go way beyond a numbers game; it shows intentionally getting into heterosexual relationships and excluding same-sex candidates.

 

Also biphobia doesn't really exist amongst gay people and is equivalent to reverse racism. Biphobia isn't consequential and the discrimination bi people face isn't biphobia, it's homophobia which is only done by straight people. Bi people are also the most privileged (most proximity to heterosexuality), the most palatable (hence why many gay men/women come out as bi because it's more acceptable than being gay) in addition to being the majority in the queer community. They self exclude themselves from the queer community simply due to being heteronormative, not because gay people are bullying them and discriminating against them 

 

Writing this since a lot of gay men have been gaslit into believing biphobia nonsense and find it hard to accept by and large it's because of patterns bi people initiated when interacting with gay people  

see this is why as a bisexual man I feel so alienated by OTHER bisexual men. so many of them will only f*cking date women seriously and end up with women without men ever even being a thought for a long-term relationship. nuh uh. not me, honeyturkey. I've dated more women than men historically BUT my longest relationship ever was with a man and I thought we'd end up getting married. ugh he broke my heart so bad when I was 20! 

 

I'm the least heteronormative bi man I know, hell, I'd rather date a guy than a girl at this moment of my life. I have a majorrrr crush on a guy rn as a matter of fact lol. I'm into people of all genders. and that's for everything. I'm sexually into men, I'm romantically into men, i'm platonically into men. i'm sexually into women, i'm romantically into women, i'm platonically into women. i'm sexually into nonbinary ppl, i'm romantically into nonbinary ppl, etc.

 

it makes me so sad how there are so many bi men who just don't think of settling down with another man as an option. it reflects so depressingly on our community. idk if i'll ever settle down for the rest of my life with anyone, but if i do i'd love it to be a man 

[JoeAg]

1 hour ago, Mtjjproducer said:

Dawn Richard

oh that's the true modern queen of art pop right there 

[Into The Void]

18 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said:

your fave's accomplishments are not yours 

Can their money be mine tho? 

[dinorhino]

14 minutes ago, JoeAg said:

see this is why as a bisexual man I feel so alienated by OTHER bisexual men. so many of them will only f*cking date women seriously and end up with women without men ever even being a thought for a long-term relationship. nuh uh. not me, honeyturkey. I've dated more women than men historically BUT my longest relationship ever was with a man and I thought we'd end up getting married. ugh he broke my heart so bad when I was 20! 

 

I'm the least heteronormative bi man I know, hell, I'd rather date a guy than a girl at this moment of my life. I have a majorrrr crush on a guy rn as a matter of fact lol. I'm into people of all genders. and that's for everything. I'm sexually into men, I'm romantically into men, i'm platonically into men. i'm sexually into women, i'm romantically into women, i'm platonically into women. i'm sexually into nonbinary ppl, i'm romantically into nonbinary ppl, etc.

 

it makes me so sad how there are so many bi men who just don't think of settling down with another man as an option. it reflects so depressingly on our community. idk if i'll ever settle down for the rest of my life with anyone, but if i do i'd love it to be a man 

It's so refreshing hearing bi people agree because I almost feel gaslit by how much online discussions with bi people vehemently deny biases against gay people and paint gay people as the bullies and themselves as beyond reproach. And something that I've noticed as well is that they have a lot of animosity towards gay men and women but they don't half an eighth of that energy towards straight people who are the only demographic who have the power to actually be discriminatory to them (homophobic + potential hate crimes, etc.). It is so weird. And maybe it's just the people I hang around with but pretty much any gay guy I've known finds bi guys attractive because they find that proximity to straightness to be a turn on (since they view straight~proximity to straightness associating with masculinity). For every gay guy that denies you for being bi there are probably like 50 who either don't care or see it as a turn on. Can't say that really about straight women (or straight people in general)

 

I'm glad data has backed it up but even just from observation I've very much noticed that it seems like to identify as bisexual you tend to have to heteronormative. Like data from that study showing 40% of respondents saying they mostly are opposite-sex attracted compared to a measly 13% mostly same-sex attracted. Especially for bi men I very much do think that if you aren't heteronormative and you have a preference for men you're just coded as gay by everyone. Many men who call themselves gay have bi tendencies but just because of the lack of mobility in men's sexuality they are only regarded as gay not really because of biphobia imo but because of how implicitly heteronormative being bisexual tends to be

 

It is so ******* rare for me to see a bi people, man or woman, say they want to end up with a same-sex partner. It's always "i don't care" but they always end up with opposite-sex partners even when engaging with the gay people. Referencing that study again, 40% say they're mostly opposite-sex attracted plus another say they're 50/50 attracted but at a 100% rate they all ended up heterosexual long-term relationships. Like the math isn't mathing--it goes beyond a numbers game like many of them say. 

 

[OmegaRidley]

16 hours ago, Patient Zero said:

Because religion detests your existence and finds you perverse? Why do you hate yourself?  (Genuine question)

My religion doesn't detest my existence? 
 

There is nothing wrong with me being gay in my religious practice lmao 

[Cleanromantic]

 

 

 

[Patient Zero]

2 hours ago, OmegaRidley said:

My religion doesn't detest my existence? 
 

There is nothing wrong with me being gay in my religious practice lmao 

Good to hear you're not practicing any of the abrahamic religions 

[OmegaRidley]

2 hours ago, Patient Zero said:

Good to hear you're not practicing any of the abrahamic religions 

I would never 

 

[Namie-Knowles]

20 hours ago, Chiidish said:

this ISN'T an unpopular opinion when most people practice monogamy even in the gay community.

 

 

S/N: I just wish the vocal and single monogamy girlies would focus on the not being single part instead of the woe is me antics any chance they get 

THIS. The victim narrative they keep trying to spin. Straight women do this to. Most couples gay or straight globally are monogamous. Monogamy isn't a marginalized and minor practice. Laws regarding marriage and benefits in most countries center around monogamy. Like be so for real right now. 

[Namie-Knowles]

14 hours ago, dinorhino said:

It's so refreshing hearing bi people agree because I almost feel gaslit by how much online discussions with bi people vehemently deny biases against gay people and paint gay people as the bullies and themselves as beyond reproach. And something that I've noticed as well is that they have a lot of animosity towards gay men and women but they don't half an eighth of that energy towards straight people who are the only demographic who have the power to actually be discriminatory to them (homophobic + potential hate crimes, etc.). It is so weird. And maybe it's just the people I hang around with but pretty much any gay guy I've known finds bi guys attractive because they find that proximity to straightness to be a turn on (since they view straight~proximity to straightness associating with masculinity). For every gay guy that denies you for being bi there are probably like 50 who either don't care or see it as a turn on. Can't say that really about straight women (or straight people in general)

 

I'm glad data has backed it up but even just from observation I've very much noticed that it seems like to identify as bisexual you tend to have to heteronormative. Like data from that study showing 40% of respondents saying they mostly are opposite-sex attracted compared to a measly 13% mostly same-sex attracted. Especially for bi men I very much do think that if you aren't heteronormative and you have a preference for men you're just coded as gay by everyone. Many men who call themselves gay have bi tendencies but just because of the lack of mobility in men's sexuality they are only regarded as gay not really because of biphobia imo but because of how implicitly heteronormative being bisexual tends to be

 

It is so ******* rare for me to see a bi people, man or woman, say they want to end up with a same-sex partner. It's always "i don't care" but they always end up with opposite-sex partners even when engaging with the gay people. Referencing that study again, 40% say they're mostly opposite-sex attracted plus another say they're 50/50 attracted but at a 100% rate they all ended up heterosexual long-term relationships. Like the math isn't mathing--it goes beyond a numbers game like many of them say. 

 

JoeAg ****** up and created space this demented rant. All nuance in his post was removed and now this was the result of someone who read it without using it.  Then the lie about "stats" sends so bad. 

Edited July 19 by Namie-Knowles

[Meev]

On 7/19/2024 at 2:39 AM, Chris said:

People in here mentioning Taylor Swift.

 

 

 

Gays dragging Taylor in a thread not about her are losers 

[dinorhino]

3 hours ago, Namie-Knowles said:

JoeAg ****** up and created space this demented rant. All nuance in his post was removed and now this was the result of someone who read it without using it.  Then the lie about "stats" sends so bad. 

Darling what? He responded to my post about something I initiated. I didn't need his permission or anyone else's. This world also doesn't revolve around you and something being outside of your reading comprehension doesn't equate to being demented lmao. You are sat on a forum and you're struggling to read it and that's your comeback? You don't have to agree but come up with better comebacks love. 

 

I'm all for being wrong but I don't care about someone who very clearly is incompetent and can't engage in the convo and wants to say something they disagree with is wrong which has yet to be demonstrated. You're just acting like an dumb monkey throwing popcorn from the side-lines.

 

Put this in chatgpt to condense it if need be since it seems like stuff that's more than 100 characters triggers you into a manic episode

[Namie-Knowles]

1 hour ago, dinorhino said:

Darling what? He responded to my post about something I initiated. I didn't need his permission or anyone else's. This world also doesn't revolve around you and something being outside of your reading comprehension doesn't equate to being demented lmao. You are sat on a forum and you're struggling to read it and that's your comeback? You don't have to agree but come up with better comebacks love. 

 

I'm all for being wrong but I don't care about someone who very clearly is incompetent and can't engage in the convo and wants to say something they disagree with is wrong which has yet to be demonstrated. You're just acting like an dumb monkey throwing popcorn from the side-lines.

 

Put this in chatgpt to condense it if need be since it seems like stuff that's more than 100 characters triggers you into a manic episode

I'm not bout to read all this babe I'm so sorry that I gave you the intention that I would. My sincerest apologies. 

 

Best wishes, Namie-Knowles

Edited July 20 by Namie-Knowles

[dinorhino]

24 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

I'm not bout to read all this babe I'm so sorry that I gave you the intention that I would. My sincerest apologies. 

 

Best wishes, Namie-Knowles

At least you know your limitations of being a dumbass. Best to not overwork yourself if your struggle to read is frustrating you this much

[MusicLoverDude]

Chubby and heavyset men can be attractive too. 

 

Autistic men can do a lot and can be very loving or passionate 

[Namie-Knowles]

46 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

At least you know your limitations of being a dumbass. Best to not overwork yourself if your struggle to read is frustrating you this much

Not reading this either. Sorry if I gave the intention of reading this. Xoxo

 

Best wishes, Namie-Knowles

Edited July 20 by Namie-Knowles

[dinorhino]

24 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

Not reading this either. Sorry if I gave the intention of reading this. Xoxo

 

Best wishes, Namie-Knowles

You're going to keep coming back whenever I post like the lapdog you are not realising you look stupid in the process 

 

Tip: passive aggression doesn't work when you're obsessively responding to posts and reporting them like a triggered baby 

 

[LegaMyth]

Some gay men need to stop looking for people to take care of them and get a f*****g job. 

[Namie-Knowles]

55 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

You're going to keep coming back whenever I post like the lapdog you are not realising you look stupid in the process 

 

Tip: passive aggression doesn't work when you're obsessively responding to posts and reporting them like a triggered baby 

 

I'm not reading that either baby. I'm so sorry that you think I would.

 

Best wishes, Namie-Knowles

Edited July 20 by Namie-Knowles

[Namie-Knowles]

Boosting the OPs thread with each reply. Period. Come on y'all we need a few more opinions. 

[dinorhino]

44 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

I'm not reading that either baby. I'm so sorry that you think I would.

 

Best wishes, Namie-Knowles

And like clockwork, the dumb dog comes back, doing exactly as it was told 

[dinorhino]

48 minutes ago, Namie-Knowles said:

Boosting the OPs thread with each reply. Period. Come on y'all we need a few more opinions. 

I agree. More opinions are needed

 

Too many gays like yourself try way too hard to do a mean girl personality. And some of the more unfortunate ones are too incompetent to pull it off successfully, either

Regina George isn't aspirational. Not sure where the passive-aggressive princess syndrome came from in the queer community. In your case, I suppose it's passive-aggressive tyke syndrome 

[Namie-Knowles]

5 hours ago, dinorhino said:

And like clockwork, the dumb dog comes back, doing exactly as it was told 

Not the double quote..I don't know what it says but sends. 

 

 

Xoxo, Namie-Knowles