celeb news Former F1 driver Ralf Schumacher is gay. Shows hot young boyfriend

[anti-bitch]

5 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

Okay, ONE gay person knows how to drive.

Lol actually there's rumors about a current F1 driver Lando Norris being queer

 

here's him checking out a daddy

 

And more recently he was seeing dancing in some man's arms, sort of

 

I don't really follow F1 so there might be more tea available elsewhere

 

@Genius1111 I saw you mentioned Lando too haha. Maybe this is all wishful thinking but he's cute for sure

[Virgos Groove]

1 minute ago, anti-***** said:

Lol actually there's rumors about a current F1 driver Lando Norris being queer

 

here's him checking out a daddy

 

And more recently he was seeing dancing in some man's arms, sort of

 

I don't really follow F1 so there might be more tea available elsewhere

 

@Genius1111 I saw you mentioned Lando too haha. Maybe this is all wishful thinking but he's cute for sure

Wait, he's cute. Let me get into Formula 1.

 

[tflicker]

3 hours ago, dinorhino said:

I wasn't trying to accuse him of cheating. It's more so splitting with them largely if not solely in part because you're gay or homoromantic (or something where your sexuality made it impossible to maintain the relationship). I say this because so many news articles are reporting him as gay. If he's bi then I get your point, but I do think it's abuse to use women as a platform to discover your sexuality and then paint yourself (or indulge in the narrative) as this battered animal after you're done with them.

 

I understand homophobia makes people comply with compulsory heteronormativity but there still needs to be responsibility here or at least acknowledgement of wrongdoing and in so many of these cases the men are very unapologetic and see nothing wrong with using women as beards and then throwing them away like toys once their overgrown selves develop decent amounts of self awareness

 I am curious then why so many articles are reporting him as gay rather than just queer or "LGBT" of some sort. Gay is a very pointed label

 

1. I'm aware of homophobia in sports, I'm not blaming him for not coming out sooner but I am blaming him for (supposedly) getting into a marriage and using a woman as a beard whether or not that was his intention. Even if you know you're gay in a homophobic sport that's still no excuse to manipulate a woman and use her as a cover

2. I don't know how she feels, but I am speaking on this situation as a collective rather than specifically individually since it is a pattern of closeted men coming out and no regard to the long-term marriage(s) they've been through where they very clearly were using women. Women are already seen as devices for straight men's exploration and maturation and gay men also participate in that by doing this and ultimately contributing to misogyny.

3. Technically true but I doubt it

4. It's a public story and I'm allowed to have an opinion

I am happy you brought this up because I feel similarly. Too often the gay guy coming out gets all the congratulations and support for finally living their truth and the straight partner is an afterthought. They were forced into somebody elses closet and often without their knowledge or permission . I don't want to know what it does to a woman's self esteem or trust to be in a relationship with somebody who  can't desire them. I had sex with a couple of girls while trying not to be gay in university and it was mechanical as ****. Insert tab A into slot B. Yeah, it worked but there was no joy, no heat, no wanting or cuddling afterwards. I could not creat any of that. Just awkwardness.

I'm very much aware that times weren't always great and everyone has a different reason for being closeted (work, religion, family... you name it ) but I feel that society made me do it is a bit of a lame excuse. It's giving up responsibility for your own decisions and actions. 

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@dinorhino

All Ralf said in his Instagram post is that he's found a (new) partner and they are happy together. That's it. He said nothing about his orientation/label or anything about struggling with being closeted

 

You say gay men use women as cover and just ditch them when they come out, but you know they would not have got into those situations to begin with if the world was more accepting of homosexuality previously. And in most places of the world people still don't accept it, especially not in (motor)sports. Now, can gay men be misogynous, yes, you see it on this website every day, but that's another topic

 

And Ralf's son said he's happy dad's found a partner. And I read he's in good terms with ex wife too. They divorced in 2015, so there've had time to process things. It's possible Ralf really loved her and it wasn't a "beard" situation after all. The media just assumes he's gay now that he said he's got a male partner

[anti-bitch]

1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

Wait, he's cute. Let me get into Formula 1.

 

Now get in this!

 

Lando with Oscar Piastri, another F1 driver. They are besties

 

The way Oscar looks at Lando in this >>>

 

They both drive at McLaren team

[dinorhino]

59 minutes ago, tflicker said:

I am happy you brought this up because I feel similarly. Too often the gay guy coming out gets all the congratulations and support for finally living their truth and the straight partner is an afterthought. They were forced into somebody elses closet and often without their knowledge or permission . I don't want to know what it does to a woman's self esteem or trust to be in a relationship with somebody who  can't desire them. I had sex with a couple of girls while trying not to be gay in university and it was mechanical as ****. Insert tab A into slot B. Yeah, it worked but there was no joy, no heat, no wanting or cuddling afterwards. I could not creat any of that. Just awkwardness.

I'm very much aware that times weren't always great and everyone has a different reason for being closeted (work, religion, family... you name it ) but I feel that society made me do it is a bit of a lame excuse. It's giving up responsibility for your own decisions and actions. 

I'm trying very hard to be empathetic and I understand societal pressures and whatnot and that's an explanation to me but not an excuse. I think you can still come out of that sort of situation realising that you're queer and not see the fact that you wasted years of someone's life as frivolous or some part of your character development like so many gay men so. I truly have yet to see a gay celeb in this situation who has not explicitly or passively accepted the role of a hero for coming out the closet at the expense of their partners. I also feel exactly the same about people who come out as trans and leave their partners in relationships, particularly because most of the stories I've seen they've basically always have known they're trans but they intentionally continue on in a relationship. 

 

Like I knew very well that I was gay when I was 13 in a homophobic household and a homophobic area. I do not understand whatsoever how men twice or thrice that age don't get it. I also don't get what's so hard about being confused/conflicted and alone or doing some hook ups if you need to get your rocks off

 

53 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

@dinorhino

All Ralf said in his Instagram post is that he's found a (new) partner and they are happy together. That's it. He said nothing about his orientation/label or anything about struggling with being closeted

 

You say gay men use women as cover and just ditch them when they come out, but you know they would not have got into those situations to begin with if the world was more accepting of homosexuality previously. And in most places of the world people still don't accept it, especially not in (motor)sports. Now, can gay men be misogynous, yes, you see it on this website every day, but that's another topic

 

And Ralf's son said he's happy dad's found a partner. And I read he's in good terms with ex wife too. They divorced in 2015, so there've had time to process things. It's possible Ralf really loved her and it wasn't a "beard" situation after all. The media just assumes he's gay now that he said he's got a male partner

Someone else pointed that out and I was under the assumption he said that because basically every article is calling him gay. Normally in this situation people will just ambiguously refer to someone as queer, or at least this is what I've seen with female celebrities who have come out unless they explicitly say they're X i.e. lesbian or bi. In the situation that he's bi then it changes my opinion to an extent although if I was in her position I would be upset still I got left for a man (and vice versa if I was dating a bi guy and I got left for a woman but that's another topic for another day ) but there's nothing inherently problematic with that

 

I'm not claiming the wife is upset but I am talking about this situation collectively rather than specifically individually. Queer men~gay men come out and they expect a red carpet and there is zero mention about how the wife feels or how it's affected her and I think that is fundamentally problematic. Great you're living your truth but I don't find you to be a hero in this instance. Also much similar to Jason Collins, I don't really see the major impact of coming out after you've retired. The real progression is actively being queer while you're active. I'm not saying they have to do anything but it's not the most heroic to come out after you've reaped the benefits of avoiding your queerness and then later benefitting from queerness from media attention once your career is over with no effort on your part trying to progress queer rights while you were actually active

 

 

 

 

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[family.guy123]

"at the expense of their partners" how? Are there examples of public figures who have come out while still married and then villainized their heterosexual spouse or something? In this case they've been divorced for almost a decade.
 

As far as I'm aware all he did was post a picture with a caption, all which indicates a homosexual relationship. He didn't ask to be labelled as some sort of hero or for congratulations. Is he supposed to publicly denounce the admiration he's receiving and bring attention to the pain he brought to his ex-wife? Do you want news publications to condemn him instead? "Gay Man lied to his wife for YEARS". Is that what you want the headline to be?
 

I don't think they need you to feel whatever emotion you're feeling on their behalf. I can assure you the ex-spouse crosses everybody's minds when they hear stories like this. It's an unenviable position to be in and I'm sure anybody close to her who didn't already know has reached out and offered their support.

 

Or is it that you'd just rather see his comment section filled with hate instead? 

[Outlaws]

I just know it's pink  

[40_L3VE]

20 hours ago, NextBish90 said:

Wow this 50 years old uncle having a 20 years old boyfriend (meat). Classic i guess! She won! 

 

The boyfriend is 34.

[anti-bitch]

7 hours ago, dinorhino said:

 

Someone else pointed that out and I was under the assumption he said that because basically every article is calling him gay. Normally in this situation people will just ambiguously refer to someone as queer, or at least this is what I've seen with female celebrities who have come out unless they explicitly say they're X i.e. lesbian or bi. In the situation that he's bi then it changes my opinion to an extent although if I was in her position I would be upset still I got left for a man (and vice versa if I was dating a bi guy and I got left for a woman but that's another topic for another day ) but there's nothing inherently problematic with that

 

 

Well that's the thing that people don't understand male bisexuality, seemingly not even gay people do. And people seem to care less about two women being together than two men as if the former was less serious somehow. They think that if you are with a man, that's it you must be gay. With women it's like "she just hasn't found the right man yet." There's the misogyny

 

And if you think about public figures, only recently it's become so that coming out won't make you lose all/most your sponsors. Now it might even be a boost for your career/business. But it's taken a lot of people coming out before and the general public getting kinda tired of talking about these things for us to get to this point

[dinorhino]

2 hours ago, anti-***** said:

Well that's the thing that people don't understand male bisexuality, seemingly not even gay people do. And people seem to care less about two women being together than two men as if the former was less serious somehow. They think that if you are with a man, that's it you must be gay. With women it's like "she just hasn't found the right man yet." There's the misogyny

 

And if you think about public figures, only recently it's become so that coming out won't make you lose all/most your sponsors. Now it might even be a boost for your career/business. But it's taken a lot of people coming out before and the general public getting kinda tired of talking about these things for us to get to this point

I know there are stories of women doing the same thing but at least in the news I overwhelmingly hear stories about queer men doing this more so that's what I'm speaking on since the guy in question is queer. Something I think bisexuals refuse to understand is that not everyone else likes both genders and that being left for the other gender is seen as a slight, especially if you are being left for them to enter a heterosexual relationship because of the power dynamics and compulsory heterosexuality that comes with it. Very comparable to being a POC and getting left for a white person because they are more "palatable". Now the inverse is different but still doesn't feel good. It's not that people don't understand bisexuality, they just don't want to be with someone who goes back and forth with who they're attracted to. 

 

I'm aware of the consequences of coming out, however I am still suspicious of how much progress is happening after you're reaped the benefits of being straight passing and only come out after retirement. No one can really do nearly as much to you if anything after you've retired so it's not a test to progression really. 

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3 hours ago, dinorhino said:

It's not that people don't understand bisexuality, they just don't want to be with someone who goes back and forth with who they're attracted to. 

But that's not how it works. They don't go back and forth, they like both genders at the same time. They might even like to have both a girlfriend and boyfriend at the same time to satisfy their needs. It's probably more confusing to the rest of us than them. But since in the western world we think monogamy is ideal, they've got to choose between the genders when entering a relationship. And it is a privilege to be able to choose a straight lifestyle for sure, but sometimes it's based on real attraction too, not necessarily a conscious choice

 

And I don't think being left for a man should feel any worse than being left for a woman, at least not if they genuinely loved that woman at one point. Ofc if someone, a dude, uses women to cover up and goes looking for hookups on Grindr without them knowing, that's wrong. I guess sometimes it could be about internalized homophobia, that they don't wanna acknowledge their homosexual cravings but can't deny them either. Sometimes guys are their own biggest enemy when thinking about coming out because the chances are that other people care less about who you wanna f*** than they think

[Genius1111]

 

 

17 hours ago, anti-***** said:

Lol actually there's rumors about a current F1 driver Lando Norris being queer

 

here's him checking out a daddy

 

And more recently he was seeing dancing in some man's arms, sort of

 

I don't really follow F1 so there might be more tea available elsewhere

 

@Genius1111 I saw you mentioned Lando too haha. Maybe this is all wishful thinking but he's cute for sure

 

16 hours ago, Virgos Groove said:

Wait, he's cute. Let me get into Formula 1.

 

 

15 hours ago, anti-***** said:

Now get in this!

 

Lando with Oscar Piastri, another F1 driver. They are besties

 

The way Oscar looks at Lando in this >>>

 

They both drive at McLaren team

You could say it's wishful thinking on my part. After all, Lando did have a girlfriend for about 8 to 12 months. Having said that, I don't think my gaydar is really wrong here, so in my head, he's bi/pan. 

 

Also, his original bestie was Carlos Sainz (in McLaren for 2 years and who's sexy hot but also seems like your regular straight guy). The Carlando bromance was/is legendary.

 

I haven't been paying too close attention to Piastri until recently, when Youtube's algorithm kept suggesting me to Landoscar content. They are like besties too but until today, I felt that Oscar was a regular straight. However, those cute videos are making me reconsider. 

 

 

 

 

If you guys are ever interested, you can always hang out in the F1 base. Some of us are randomly speculating that Ralf Schumacher's nephew Mick (Michael's son) is also kinda fruity and maybe there are people out there who are shipping him with other male drivers, despite the fact that Mick has a girlfriend now. 

 

 

 

In any case, coming out while being an active driver is certainly career suicide, not least because there are several Middle Eastern host countries that theoretically can jail people simply for being LGBT.

 

 

 

Bonus video of Lando being hot:

 

 

Edited July 16 by Genius1111

[Chris]

6 hours ago, 40_L3VE said:

 

The boyfriend is 34.

Oh.

 

[dinorhino]

54 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

But that's not how it works. They don't go back and forth, they like both genders at the same time. They might even like to have both a girlfriend and boyfriend at the same time to satisfy their needs. It's probably more confusing to the rest of us than them. But since in the western world we think monogamy is ideal, they've got to choose between the genders when entering a relationship. And it is a privilege to be able to choose a straight lifestyle for sure, but sometimes it's based on real attraction too, not necessarily a conscious choice

 

And I don't think being left for a man should feel any worse than being left for a woman, at least not if they genuinely loved that woman at one point. Ofc if someone, a dude, uses women to cover up and goes looking for hookups on Grindr without them knowing, that's wrong. I guess sometimes it could be about internalized homophobia, that they don't wanna acknowledge their homosexual cravings but can't deny them either. Sometimes guys are their own biggest enemy when thinking about coming out because the chances are that other people care less about who you wanna f*** than they think

The back and forth was referring to the types of relationships they choose, and while monogamy isn't ideal for everyone, polyamory definitely hasn't showcased being more successful or fruitful. Both are pretty dysfunctional 

 

I don't know if you're bi or not but this is something bisexual people seem to have a hard time understanding that for monosexual people being left for the opposite sex is very hurtful and it most often times is not rooted in insecurity or bigotry, that's just the way it is from that perspective and no amount of intellectualising it will do anything. I know if I was left for a woman I would be livid. The attraction to woman already is a major turn off to me. 

 

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4 minutes ago, dinorhino said:

The back and forth was referring to the types of relationships they choose, and while monogamy isn't ideal for everyone, polyamory definitely hasn't showcased being more successful or fruitful. Both are pretty dysfunctional 

 

I don't know if you're bi or not but this is something bisexual people seem to have a hard time understanding that for monosexual people being left for the opposite sex is very hurtful and it most often times is not rooted in insecurity or bigotry, that's just the way it is from that perspective and no amount of intellectualising it will do anything. I know if I was left for a woman I would be livid. The attraction to woman already is a major turn off to me. 

 

No, I'm not bi. I was just trying to imagine what that would be like. Nothing more to say about this.

[bielneira]

Good for him!

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Not his boyfriend being exposed as a right-wing nutjob  He was an active member of Le Pen's party for more than 10 years and still follows plenty of RN politicians on Instagram. https://www.t-online.de/unterhaltung/stars/id_100450328/neue-details-ueber-etienne-ralf-schumachers-freund-arbeitete-fuer-le-pen.html (Article is in German)