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16 minutes ago, TomTom said:

:rip:

 

 

First Gaga sabotaged Heidi Montag, then Xtina, now Katy too? Ugh her power. :jonny5:

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23 minutes ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

"Stupid Love" worked not because of its sound but because it took the core elements of Gaga's music—slightly nonsensical lyrics, acid-trip concept, a general struggle with vowels—and turned them up to 11.

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1 minute ago, hausofbryan said:

I can sense your frustration at her impending dominance later this year.

 

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I'm actually looking forward to new Gaga, I just think SL is a random choice of a song to start her second act. 
 

I think ASIB is the clear demarcation between Gaga's first wind and her resurgence. SL was just an alright song. 

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10 minutes ago, gustavothehuman said:
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In the immortal words of Sister Catherine Rose Holzman, uttered moments before she died: "Katy Perry, please stop".

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Had to check for myself because there was no way :bibliahh:

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3 minutes ago, BlondUnicorn said:

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Not them shipping her back to 2016 :deadbanana2:

 

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Unironically, even Rise is miles better than this panned turd :suburban:

 

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Katy Perry & Dr. Luke's Take on Feminism in "Woman's World" Is as Bad as That Sounds

The half-hearted empowerment anthem fails on just about every front

 

There's always a bit of an off-kilter edge to Katy Perry when she's at her best, which is when she gets campy, frothy, and over the top. We know she's capable of true pop greatness — revisit "Teenage Dream" if you need proof — but lately, as she gears up for a September album titled 143, things haven't been looking so good.1

Perry's 143 chapter kicked off with "Woman's World," a release that just might have been doomed from the jump. The moment the first clips hit the internet, teasing lyrics that genuinely felt AI generated, the comeback was on shaky ground. Then came the reveal that the song, an attempt at a feminist anthem, was co-produced and co-written with Dr. Luke, a producer who has been accused of sexual assault, harassment, and gender violence in a lengthy series of lawsuits from singer Kesha. (The suits were dismissed, and Dr. Luke denied the allegations.)

But beyond the pitch-black irony of creating a women empowerment song with someone tied to a disturbing accusations, the song is just plain bad — and the music video is worse.

We start off with Perry in Rosie the Riveter glam, as she and a crew of ultra-toned backup dancers insert themselves into what could traditionally be described as "men's spaces." They recreate the iconic Builders of the City Enjoy Luncheon, drink whiskey, and wave around tools. They stand confidently at urinals. Do you feel empowered yet?

What's so head-scratching about this set of visuals, which Perry never fully commits to as satire, is that this is not how feminism should ever feel. Perry told Apple Music2 that her decision to focus on this theme was because "this is the first contribution I have given since becoming a mother and since feeling really connected to my feminine divine." Connecting with the feminine divine doesn't mean co-opting traditionally masculine spaces; ideally, it means celebrating the unique joys of womanhood. Feminism isn't about proving we can do everything men can do — these days, the road to empowering women shouldn't be centering men at all. Plenty of women drink whiskey and know how to operate power tools, but that's not even the core of the issue here. It's that this is the most baseline, tip of the iceberg, generic attempt at feminism, and the result is Perry never actually saying anything of substance.

Everything about the focus of the track feels 15 years too late to be interesting, and the music video doesn't help. There's obviously something to be said for escapist pop or harkening back to the sounds that dominated charts through the early 2000s, but "Woman's World" is a nothing burger served on a chrome plate. Take out any of the fun arena energy of "Roar" and you've got this chorus: "Celebrate! 'Cause, baby, we ain't goin' away/ It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be livin' in it." Doesn't the visual of jade rollers on Perry's face make you feel lucky to be alive? This isn't camp; this is boring.

In a world where very few structural or institutional systems make us feel like we're strutting sexily through a "Woman's World," no part of me wants to turn up the volume on this one. The timing is bad, and so is the song. This reality might be something Perry tries to touch on in the muddled second half of the video, when an anvil crushes her and turns her into a reanimated, inflated version of herself that wields the gender symbol for woman in the form of an influencer's ring light — before, bafflingly, linking up with YouTuber Trisha Paytas.

But whatever her intentions were, the song never comes together. This release falls as flat as the bottom of the anvil that crushes Perry halfway through the music video.

 

 

https://consequence.net/2024/07/katy-perry-womans-world-track-review/

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1 minute ago, BlondUnicorn said:

Hm… no? Stupid Love actually got a lot of good reviews upon release, it's only hated among ATRL and pop stans.

Stupid Love got good reviews because she was coming off of ASIB and the press was on her dick. It remains a terrible song that massively underperformed and is still underperforming, hovering out of her Spotify top 20, being outstreamed by BTW album cuts and Hold My Hand.

 

It is also factually wrong to say it kickstarted her second act, since she's only released like 2 official singles after that. Shallow is her second wind song. 

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The mood today:

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I love it!!

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2 minutes ago, Sugden said:

Katy Perry & Dr. Luke's Take on Feminism in "Woman's World" Is as Bad as That Sounds

The half-hearted empowerment anthem fails on just about every front

 

There's always a bit of an off-kilter edge to Katy Perry when she's at her best, which is when she gets campy, frothy, and over the top. We know she's capable of true pop greatness — revisit "Teenage Dream" if you need proof — but lately, as she gears up for a September album titled 143, things haven't been looking so good.1

Perry's 143 chapter kicked off with "Woman's World," a release that just might have been doomed from the jump. The moment the first clips hit the internet, teasing lyrics that genuinely felt AI generated, the comeback was on shaky ground. Then came the reveal that the song, an attempt at a feminist anthem, was co-produced and co-written with Dr. Luke, a producer who has been accused of sexual assault, harassment, and gender violence in a lengthy series of lawsuits from singer Kesha. (The suits were dismissed, and Dr. Luke denied the allegations.)

But beyond the pitch-black irony of creating a women empowerment song with someone tied to a disturbing accusations, the song is just plain bad — and the music video is worse.

We start off with Perry in Rosie the Riveter glam, as she and a crew of ultra-toned backup dancers insert themselves into what could traditionally be described as "men's spaces." They recreate the iconic Builders of the City Enjoy Luncheon, drink whiskey, and wave around tools. They stand confidently at urinals. Do you feel empowered yet?

What's so head-scratching about this set of visuals, which Perry never fully commits to as satire, is that this is not how feminism should ever feel. Perry told Apple Music2 that her decision to focus on this theme was because "this is the first contribution I have given since becoming a mother and since feeling really connected to my feminine divine." Connecting with the feminine divine doesn't mean co-opting traditionally masculine spaces; ideally, it means celebrating the unique joys of womanhood. Feminism isn't about proving we can do everything men can do — these days, the road to empowering women shouldn't be centering men at all. Plenty of women drink whiskey and know how to operate power tools, but that's not even the core of the issue here. It's that this is the most baseline, tip of the iceberg, generic attempt at feminism, and the result is Perry never actually saying anything of substance.

Everything about the focus of the track feels 15 years too late to be interesting, and the music video doesn't help. There's obviously something to be said for escapist pop or harkening back to the sounds that dominated charts through the early 2000s, but "Woman's World" is a nothing burger served on a chrome plate. Take out any of the fun arena energy of "Roar" and you've got this chorus: "Celebrate! 'Cause, baby, we ain't goin' away/ It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be livin' in it." Doesn't the visual of jade rollers on Perry's face make you feel lucky to be alive? This isn't camp; this is boring.

In a world where very few structural or institutional systems make us feel like we're strutting sexily through a "Woman's World," no part of me wants to turn up the volume on this one. The timing is bad, and so is the song. This reality might be something Perry tries to touch on in the muddled second half of the video, when an anvil crushes her and turns her into a reanimated, inflated version of herself that wields the gender symbol for woman in the form of an influencer's ring light — before, bafflingly, linking up with YouTuber Trisha Paytas.

But whatever her intentions were, the song never comes together. This release falls as flat as the bottom of the anvil that crushes Perry halfway through the music video.

 

 

https://consequence.net/2024/07/katy-perry-womans-world-track-review/

This is getting BAD! Maybe it's time to scrap the whole era! 
 

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they sound nothing alike wtf

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The song is so bad it's actually sad. It's bland and boring. I hated I love it by Camila and even there you could say there was an aspect of creativity and catchiness to it. This is just horrible. I was really rooting for her and she let me down so much with this today

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The song is so bad it's actually sad. It's bland and boring. I hated I love it by Camila and even there you could say there was an aspect of creativity and catchiness to it. This is just horrible. I was really rooting for her and she let me down so much with this today

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Both are bad, how about that?

 

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Stupid Love is a silly and fun song that makes me chuckle every time I hear the opening play when I'm walking through the local supermarket.

 

Woman's World is just.... clearly an attempt at something but I don't know what. :nicole:

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Thank you Katy ATRL is so back :rip:

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Stupid Luv the pinkprint :gaygacat1::heart:

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The way stan culture has influenced publications like Pitchfork is one of the reasons why music journalism is now an utter joke :rip: 

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Stupid Love>>>>> Woman's World. SL made me dance my heart out whereas I'm never listening to Woman's Bore again. 

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26 minutes ago, BlondUnicorn said:

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"Did you know she released an album during the pandemic? Probably not."


there's not a single publication letting her breathe :bibliahh:

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39 minutes ago, duybeeGAshantiGA said:

slightly nonsensical lyrics, acid-trip concept, a general struggle with vowels

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They clocked both of them

 

I disagree about Stupid Love tho; I hate that song too and don't think it "worked." :cm:

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It's a woman's world and you're lucky to be living in it indeed 

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While I agree this song isn't that bad, I guess it's what she deserves for deliberately choosing to work with Dr. Luke again.

 

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7 minutes ago, Kukai said:

The way stan culture has influenced publications like Pitchfork is one of the reasons why music journalism is now an utter joke :rip: 

how so? :confused:

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