jakeisphat Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) Quote Under siege from fellow Democrats, President Biden's campaign is quietly testing the strength of Vice President Kamala Harris against former President Donald J. Trump in a head-to-head survey of voters, as Mr. Biden fights for his political future with a high-stakes news conference on Thursday. The survey, which is being conducted this week and was commissioned by the Biden campaign's analytics team, is believed to be the first time since the debate that Mr. Biden's aides have sought to measure how the vice president would fare at the top of the ticket. It was described by three people who are informed about it and insisted on anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information. They did not specify why the survey was being conducted or what the campaign planned to do with the results. It could be read as the team gathering information to present a case to the president that his path forward is slim, or to argue that Mr. Biden is still the strongest standard-bearer for his party. The effort comes as some longtime aides and advisers to Mr. Biden are said to have become increasingly convinced that he will have to step aside from the campaign, and in recent days have been trying to come up with ways to persuade him that he should, The New York Times reported on Thursday. A growing number of prominent lawmakers have called for Mr. Biden to drop out or suggest he should reconsider his plans to run. . . . Since the debate, Mr. Biden's innermost circle has shrunk to his family and a very small group of his closest aides, effectively cocooning the president. It is not clear how much Mr. Biden has been informed about how his standing has dropped among Democrats. Ms. Harris has been careful to demonstrate complete loyalty to Mr. Biden's bid. But outside supporters of her candidacy have been quietly and carefully floating the idea that she might be a stronger contender against Mr. Trump — with some even going so far as to suggest potential running mates for the vice president. . . . Shortly after the debate, Mr. Biden's campaign chair, Ms. O'Malley Dillon, and his White House chief of staff, Jeff Zients, met with a group of anti-Trump Republicans at a hotel near the White House. The meeting had been planned weeks before the debate, but the two Biden advisers found themselves fielding pleas from some in the room that Mr. Biden drop out after his poor showing onstage. Mr. Biden's advisers said the conversation was a nonstarter. When some of the Republicans suggested that Democrats had a number of other options among the party's governors, Ms. O'Malley Dillon said that the options were either Mr. Biden or, if he were to drop out, Ms. Harris, and indicated that the discussion was a waste of time, according to one person briefed on what was said. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/us/politics/biden-kamala-harris-poll-trump.html Edited July 11 by jakeisphat
Bethenny Frankel Posted July 11 Posted July 11 I feel like by the end of this month there is a good chance Kamala could be the nominee 12
Virgos Groove Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Biden's just the delaying the inevitable at this point. 12
GhostBox Posted July 11 Posted July 11 I'm pretty sure every campaign does and keeps data like this on their vp. 💀
shyboi Posted July 11 Posted July 11 BiDone is as popular as a Christina Aguilera in the charts, no one wants him, not even his inner circle, he needs to let it go Mothermala is coming 1 12 1 3
Breathe On Moi Posted July 11 Posted July 11 surprisingly I'm all ears and would love to know what ppl's current perception/stance are on her. 3
Scheissex Posted July 11 Posted July 11 People dislike Kamala even more than they fear Joe's senility 1
KreuzbergBaby Posted July 11 Posted July 11 This admin is so done. The worst president of the US and the worst VP ever. Good riddance to both of them. 1 4
ClashAndBurn Posted July 11 Posted July 11 My guess is that his campaign is seeking out data that proves she doesn't do better than him to make the case that he shouldn't be swapped out. 7
MilanY Posted July 11 Posted July 11 24 minutes ago, shyboi said: BiDone is as popular as a Christina Aguilera in the charts, no one wants him, not even his inner circle, he needs to let it go Mothermala is coming He is more like Brintey Spears, incoherent, lunatic and unsafe. 3 6
Princess Aurora Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) I'm not sure about Kamala's popularity Hopefully Biden will be replaced by another Dem candidate If Kamala can't do it. Edited July 11 by Princess Aurora
byzantium Posted July 11 Posted July 11 32 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said: surprisingly I'm all ears and would love to know what ppl's current perception/stance are on her. My stance is that when she says she is proud to serve as a black woman vice president, she would actually be correct. She can also give a speech without showing visible signs of cognitive decline. It would completely change the dynamic of the race from a question of whether Biden is fit to lead the country to whether Trump is fit to lead the country. 5
byzantium Posted July 11 Posted July 11 18 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: My guess is that his campaign is seeking out data that proves she doesn't do better than him to make the case that he shouldn't be swapped out. This is what I am thinking too. Biden is too selfish and power hungry to step down for the good of the American people . 1
truthteller Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) it's crazy to think about the fact that the DNC has never prepared an alternative candidate since 2016 Edited July 11 by truthteller
nadiamendell Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Do it. At least Kamala can hit back at Trump when he criticizes her instead of fall asleep. I need her to set her own agenda though and not just rehash everything Biden is doing. 5
Into The Void Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 24 minutes ago, byzantium said: This is what I am thinking too. Biden is too selfish and power hungry to step down for the good of the American people . Trump won't step down for the good of the American people either Edited July 11 by Into The Void 1
getBusy Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) Unfortunately, Trump is going to win regardless of who the Democratic candidate is. At this point: My Dog 2024 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Make America Bark Again™️ Edited July 11 by getBusy
Sergi91 Posted July 11 Posted July 11 I'm ok with Kamala replacing Biden. She will eat Trump alive at the upcoming debates. 5
Raichu Posted July 11 Posted July 11 26 minutes ago, Sergi91 said: I'm ok with Kamala replacing Biden. She will eat Trump alive at the upcoming debates. Exactly this. Regardless of everything else I'd be so sat to see her debate Trump 4
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