Dante Silva Posted July 8 Posted July 8 If someone captures the zeitgeist, sales tend to go hand in hand (even in the steaming age), so yes.
Charmed Life Posted July 8 Posted July 8 3 hours ago, Punky Rooster said: Sales yes, streaming figures no.
єѕℓαм Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Sales help but for the GP they couldn't care less about sales it's the awards and impact that matter
Cruel Summer Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Consumption metrics are some of the only pieces of quantitative, empirical evidence we can use to understand an artist's popularity and impact. That's why they're among the most important points to consider.
Badgalbriel Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Not the most important, but one of the key factors. Just look at the list of all the most successful artists in history, they're all legends. Sales are a consequence of their impact, so.....
Badgalbriel Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) Who do you think the crowds will be consuming 20 years from now? The artist they grew up with and marked their young years (thus, probably the most successful acts of those years) or some nobody that made expiremental music that they never heard before when they were young? A very small crowd will be consuming this second option. Edited July 8 by Badgalbriel
Popboi. Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) They show how popular and loved someone is/was so yes. The sales vs impact discussion is mostly dumb, sales are not impact, impact IS what caused the sales No one parades saying "I love this album, it sold x copies", but the more it sold, the more likely it's to be known and referenced by real people outside the stan bubbles. Edited July 8 by Popboi. 1
masochizm Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Its a factor but not a major one… For instance I don't see any upcoming artists citing Taylor Swift as an inspiration even though she has insane sales… and highly doubt anyone is looking up to her musically
byzantium Posted July 8 Posted July 8 No, but sales are an objective datapoint to identify, longevity, impact, and influence.
banterfly Posted July 8 Posted July 8 13 minutes ago, masochizm said: Its a factor but not a major one… For instance I don't see any upcoming artists citing Taylor Swift as an inspiration even though she has insane sales… and highly doubt anyone is looking up to her musically She also has acclaim too. 4 AOTY and yet not one of those captured the zeitgeist like 21, Teenage Dream or R The Fame/ The Fame Monster. She makes well-made albums though, but that's pretty much her contribution to music. 1
Bookmark99 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) In hip-hop, rock, soul, R&B, other genres...NOPE. They put a lot more weight into the actual music/influence etc. You can be a legend without selling a lot. However, in pop? Yes, unfortunately. I don't think it should be that way but there seems to be a lot more weight put into sales over musical impact, innovation, and other factors. Edited July 8 by Bookmark99 2
Tylerbv Posted July 8 Posted July 8 It's a cute metric to show consistency or peak popularity, but if you sell 20 million albums and no one remembers your music, does it really matter?
Meev Posted July 8 Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Tylerbv said: It's a cute metric to show consistency or peak popularity, but if you sell 20 million albums and no one remembers your music, does it really matter? Who sold 20mil albums and no one remembers their music? You are delusional if you think any musician has done that in history or will have that happen to them, especially if you are trying to shade Taylor.
Tylerbv Posted July 8 Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, Meev said: Who sold 20mil albums and no one remembers their music? You are delusional if you think any musician has done that in history or will have that happen to them, especially if you are trying to shade Taylor. Something something hit dog will holler. I pulled 20 million as a random number. No one is talking about Taylor Calm down, cultie.
Phaunzie Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Legacy gets its value from how much the artist shakes up the status quo through pioneering new genres, creating blueprints for new ways of success, showcasing talent that is respected by the masses or breaking records.
worldwide angel Posted July 8 Posted July 8 no. people like bjork have prolific legacies and its not just because of the critical acclaim. her impact and influence is still felt. imagine releasing an album like vulnicura late into your career and said album having daughters not even two years later 1
Xtripped Posted July 8 Posted July 8 GP is not aware of sales, #1s, lead or collab or who produced what. Those are things that only fanbases cares, impact>sales
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