news Left wing alliance SNATCHES France election, far right in 3rd in exit poll

[dlwlrma]

3 minutes ago, SmittenCake said:

any funny reactions to watch? 

 

[State of Grace.]

12 minutes ago, SmittenCake said:

any funny reactions to watch? 

This thread has some funny ones. Serving "Nicki is hiding her sadness behind her beautiful smile"

 

 

[MP3]

8 minutes ago, Gabriel said:

I have no idea how French politics works ☠️

There is a President and a Prime Minister in France, the President is the head of state and the Prime Minister the head of the government. They have separate elections

 

I see you are from Canada, like me, so how the election works in France for the Prime Minister is kinda similar as how we do here, except for them, they have 2 rounds and we only have 1

French people elect their local candidates, representing the majors parties, and the one getting the most votes is the winning of that district for the first round. (unless they win an absolute majority of 50% and at least 25% of the population of the district voted)

 

For the second round, they do the same. French will go vote again and the party with the most vote win the district. Sometimes, like that election, some parties can withdrawals leaving only 2 candidates to fight for the win. As same as for Canada, the party that win the most seats (district) is the winning party, and if that party have the majority of seats, he has the complete control of the government. (For exemple, Trudeau now is a minority government, that's why he's working with the NDP to stay in power). Same thing will happens with France, there is not majority party, so the one with the most seats (LFI in this case) will try to find coalition to stay in power and if it doesn't work, France will return in election next year or later.

 

For the President, it's the popular vote that count. For the first round, French will vote not for local candidates, but for the candidates who want to be President. The 2 candidates getting the most votes will be the only 2 one fighting in the second round. The winner is the one who will get the most votes.

 

President and Prime Minister will work together after that to govern the country. It's easier for them if both have similar political views, but it can happens that for exemple a President is more moderate and the Prime Minister is a bit more progressive or extremist 

[Dante Silva]

We need the presidents of war torn countries to behave in a mature and dignified manner and for them to stop being so religiously polarising whilst also coveting the wealth produced by whatever natural resource their country has a monopoly on and for them to stop hoarding that money from the international sale of those resources for themselves but to instead channel those profits back in to their country's economies for the good of their populations.

 

In NOT doing that, the indigenous peoples in turn get victimised by various military factions and have no option other than to flee/ re-locate to find peace.

 

The U.S. needs to assassinate the presidents of those countries and stop their associated authoritarian regimes. Replacing those presidents with a system of democratically elected officials and for the U.S. to maintain a military presence in those land masses to ensure the incumbent controlling regimes behave in ethical and moral ways.

 

That way people (populations) can be more evenly distributed on the planet's surface, thus nobody has to relocate to escape anything and western countries in turn do not have their public services stretched to breaking point which ignites feelings of tension and prejudice amongst western indigenous populations against vast influxes of non-indigenous people.

 

Edited July 7 by Dante Silva

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[Komet]

1 hour ago, Bloodflowers. said:

Marine Le Pen will focus more on winning presidency in France rather than forming government so this won't be the last of her 

Good luck booking that presidency; the presidential elections are basically  guaranteed to have a second round with the top 2 candidates, and whoever is up against her will be getting all anti far-right votes.

 

Ot: **** YOU LE PEN

[jadeabove]

DESTROY THEM. 🌈

[Eóghan]

2 hours ago, YellowRibbon said:

Also, Gabriel Attal can finally sleep soundly again while listening to the latest Aya Nakamura record, the guy was in interviews and stuff all week long 

well all the experts are saying that he's the sole reason why Macron's party overperformed in the end. Macron better kiss his feet for being the face of his party and doing good in debates/interviews. the irony of it all is that he is forced to resign as "prime minister" despite saving his party from complete disaster.

[MP3]

5 minutes ago, Dante Silva said:

We need the presidents of war torn countries to behave in a mature and dignified manner and for them to stop being so religiously polarising whilst also coveting the wealth produced by whatever natural resource their country has a monopoly on and for them to stop hoarding that money from the international sale of those resources for themselves but to instead channel those profits back in to their country's economies for the good of their populations.

 

In NOT doing that, the indigenous peoples in turn get victimised by various military factions and have no option other than to flee/ re-locate to find peace.

 

The U.S. needs to assassinate the presidents of those countries and stop their associated authoritarian regimes. Replacing those presidents with a system of democratically elected officials and for the U.S. to maintain a military presence in those land masses to ensure the incumbent controlling regimes behave in ethical and moral ways.

 

That way people (populations) can be more evenly distributed on the planet's surface, thus nobody has to relocate to escape anything and western countries in turn do not have their public services stretched to breaking point which ignites feelings of tension and prejudice amongst western indigenous populations against vast influxes of non-indigenous people.

 

In a perfect world it would be totally like that. Every country is purely democratic, with fair and honest elections. Every country would have their own strengths, their own natural ressources. Almost every country doing well on all index are countries with democratic systems. It's not perfect but it's the only system working to have the most peaceful and prosper countries possible. Every government obtained by power or force will decay the country, whether it is by economical, social or human rights point of view. The actual globalization is creating those extremes and I agree that all democratic countries should have a role in leading the non-democratic countries to fallow that movement

[MP3]

19 minutes ago, Komet said:

Good luck booking that presidency; the presidential elections are basically  guaranteed to have a second round with the top 2 candidates, and whoever is up against her will be getting all anti far-right votes.

 

Ot: **** YOU LE PEN

It will very depends who will be the 2 candidates. I don't see Bardella running for President in 2027, so it will probably be Le Pen again. But against who? Macron can't because in France you can't be President more than 2 times, so maybe Attal? Mélenchon has no chance acceding the second round.

 

I can see an Attal / Le Pen fight, and if it is that, Attal will win probably. If it is someone like Mélenchon, Le Pen has a chance. Don't forget that in the last election, Le Pen lost with only 8.6% short of majority

Edited July 7 by MP3

[Gui Blackout]

How many more French elections people are gonna freak out over a misleading right wing lead in the first round just for them to flop yet again in the second round

 

[Konril]

Color me surprised.

[Gui Blackout]

2 hours ago, YellowRibbon said:

Also, Gabriel Attal can finally sleep soundly again while listening to the latest Aya Nakamura record, the guy was in interviews and stuff all week long 

 

Edited July 7 by Gui Blackout

[YellowRibbon]

1 hour ago, Eóghan said:

well all the experts are saying that he's the sole reason why Macron's party overperformed in the end. Macron better kiss his feet for being the face of his party and doing good in debates/interviews. the irony of it all is that he is forced to resign as "prime minister" despite saving his party from complete disaster.

A mess 

[Bethenny Frankel]

well france is NOT in its flop era now!

[IBeMe]

I'm so insanely happy but at the same time worried because if this coalition government doesn't live up to its promises the French public will swing right next election and they will prob never "experiment" with the far left again. 

[drip drop]

what are some of  the promises of this new left wing party? can someone enlighten me? or send me some articles? thanks

[roso]

1 hour ago, MP3 said:

It will very depends who will be the 2 candidates. I don't see Bardella running for President in 2027, so it will probably be Le Pen again. But against who? Macron can't because in France you can't be President more than 2 times, so maybe Attal? Mélenchon has no chance acceding the second round.

 

I can see an Attal / Le Pen fight, and if it is that, Attal will win probably. If it is someone like Mélenchon, Le Pen has a chance. Don't forget that in the last election, Le Pen lost with only 8.6% short of majority

I think Ruffin or Attal could take it, Mélenchon is too polarzing to even go to the 2d round. We'll have to see for Le Pen, but it seems like the majority clearly doesn't want her/her party

[MP3]

11 minutes ago, IBeMe said:

I'm so insanely happy but at the same time worried because if this coalition government doesn't live up to its promises the French public will swing right next election and they will prob never "experiment" with the far left again. 

It will be hard for the NFP to pass every act they want because they don't have a majority so they will need some votes from Ensemble and RN to pass them, so till the next government election it will be a static government that will give the impression that they don't do a lot and pass their time to fight against each other 

[Communion]

2 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

We need the presidents of war torn countries to behave in a mature and dignified manner and for them to stop being so religiously polarising whilst also coveting the wealth produced by whatever natural resource their country has a monopoly on and for them to stop hoarding that money from the international sale of those resources for themselves but to instead channel those profits back in to their country's economies for the good of their populations.

 

In NOT doing that, the indigenous peoples in turn get victimised by various military factions and have no option other than to flee/ re-locate to find peace.

 

The U.S. needs to assassinate the presidents of those countries and stop their associated authoritarian regimes. Replacing those presidents with a system of democratically elected officials and for the U.S. to maintain a military presence in those land masses to ensure the incumbent controlling regimes behave in ethical and moral ways.

 

That way people (populations) can be more evenly distributed on the planet's surface, thus nobody has to relocate to escape anything and western countries in turn do not have their public services stretched to breaking point which ignites feelings of tension and prejudice amongst western indigenous populations against vast influxes of non-indigenous people.

 

"The US should commit 20+ more regime change operations because Europeans can't stop themselves from turning into Hitler when seeing people with brown skin"

 

I hope a kebab shop opens next door to you  

[Dante Silva]

9 minutes ago, Communion said:

"The US should commit 20+ more regime change operations because Europeans can't stop themselves from turning into Hitler when seeing people with brown skin"

 

I hope a kebab shop opens next door to you  

What even is that bigoted crap in quotation marks that you inaccurately attribute to me?

 

Whatever you are trying to say is based on your mis-understanding of my post and I am not interested in your passive aggressive ways.

 

Edited July 7 by Dante Silva

[State of Grace.]

2 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

We need the presidents of war torn countries to behave in a mature and dignified manner and for them to stop being so religiously polarising whilst also coveting the wealth produced by whatever natural resource their country has a monopoly on and for them to stop hoarding that money from the international sale of those resources for themselves but to instead channel those profits back in to their country's economies for the good of their populations.

 

In NOT doing that, the indigenous peoples in turn get victimised by various military factions and have no option other than to flee/ re-locate to find peace.

 

The U.S. needs to assassinate the presidents of those countries and stop their associated authoritarian regimes. Replacing those presidents with a system of democratically elected officials and for the U.S. to maintain a military presence in those land masses to ensure the incumbent controlling regimes behave in ethical and moral ways.

 

That way people (populations) can be more evenly distributed on the planet's surface, thus nobody has to relocate to escape anything and western countries in turn do not have their public services stretched to breaking point which ignites feelings of tension and prejudice amongst western indigenous populations against vast influxes of non-indigenous people.

 

6 minutes ago, Dante Silva said:

What even is that bigoted crap?

[Communion]

9 minutes ago, Dante Silva said:

you inaccurately attribute to me

 

2 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

The U.S. needs to assassinate the presidents of those countries and stop their associated authoritarian regimes. Replacing those presidents with a system of democratically elected officials and for the U.S. to maintain a military presence in those land masses to ensure the incumbent controlling regimes behave in ethical and moral ways.

 

The three largest waves of non-European refugees in Europe over the last 20 years had little to do with religious conflict and were in itself largely products of the US meddling in Middle East and Northern Africa affairs and creating national instability. Do you think LESS refugees would be trying to get to Europe via rafts w/ more drone strikes?

 

To suggest the solution to the realities of refugees is more US meddling is silly and serves to only validate your own racism as reasonable and rationale (arguing the solution is to just take over countries and control migration that way, not combatting the kind of racism that makes French people hate non-white people, let alone people uprooted due to the meddling of European world powers). It is terribly ironic then that you fashion yourself as at odds w/ Le Pen. 

 

How many illegal wars has French liberals co-signed in helping the US commit? 

Edited July 7 by Communion

[DAP]

27 minutes ago, drip drop said:

what are some of  the promises of this new left wing party? can someone enlighten me? or send me some articles? thanks

Free school lunches, minimum wage increase, wage indexation (pay bumps adjusted for inflation), price freeze on utilities and goods, long term investment in infrastructure, education, health and research, and reinstate the pension age at 60.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/23/mother-of-all-battles-french-left-join-forces-to-beat-far-right-electoral-threat

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/03/france-hard-left-new-popular-front-far-right

[Dante Silva]

1 minute ago, State of Grace. said:

Thanks for demonstrating the quality of the education system in your country.