celeb news Joe Budden claims Camila x Drake is to distract from racist past

[Talento]

Hers or his?

[*.Digambar.*]

The fact that people literally don't care about Bieber's racist past or SZAs homophobic past but choose to focus on Camila every time she does something is giving hypocrite. 

[Trent W]

22 minutes ago, kexin said:

The question was whether she said anything racist and if there was proof

The proof is a 13 year old reposting memes. 
 

Actual Proof would be Bieber saying a racist joke in a video.

 

The selective outrage is absolutely insane

[truthteller]

i am as confused as biden 

[xxxlamb]

she did more than repost memes....she was young, like 14 or 15 on some of them

 

[Phaunzie]

As said before, it is getting tiring that her past keeps resurfacing after years of apologizing. Also distracting what racist past, she was dragged mercilessly for over several years until people stopped caring.

[goldenrainbow222]

3 minutes ago, Phaunzie said:

As said before, it is getting tiring that her past keeps resurfacing after years of apologizing. Also distracting what racist past, she was dragged mercilessly for over several years until people stopped caring.

How many times has she apologized? And what did she apologize for? You should make it clear because half of her defenders in here have tried to gaslight us into believing that none of this ever happened or existed.

 

Also, if you're not a Black person who is experiencing this racism (because every Black person has dealt with a 'Camila' in real life) you don't get to decide when someone is 'forgiven'. We will always look at her sideways and we will never forget this happened. If you're ok with forgiving her or ignoring her racist past that's fine for you, but don't feel some kind of way when others who are affected by her harmful racism refuse to. 

[ImsoLOUD]

Even if she "just posted some memes at 13"…. just imagine how many white girls didn't share racist memes at 13 or any other age?  

[Phaunzie]

1 hour ago, goldenrainbow222 said:

How many times has she apologized? And what did she apologize for? You should make it clear because half of her defenders in here have tried to gaslight us into believing that none of this ever happened or existed.

 

Also, if you're not a Black person who is experiencing this racism (because every Black person has dealt with a 'Camila' in real life) you don't get to decide when someone is 'forgiven'. We will always look at her sideways and we will never forget this happened. If you're ok with forgiving her or ignoring her racist past that's fine for you, but don't feel some kind of way when others who are affected by her harmful racism refuse to. 

I'm a dark-skinned Afro-Caribbean from Barbados, sweetheart. So yes, I do experience racism, colourism and the like. What I am saying is why are we digging back up her Tumblr rants about Normani, racist memes that she shared with her friends, and that hate crime of a blog every single time she releases? I can't be offended every single time, this girl releases. At this point, it was like kicking a dead horse that at least tried to change. 

 

So far, there have been no recent reports of microaggressions, prejudice against black individuals or covert racist/colourist acts. She at least seems to have changed for the better. So since you want to speak up for black people across the world, how do you want me to act? Do you want me to be in my feelings over her past? Do you want me to stand in solidarity with random people on the internet, who didn't know about Camilia's past? 

 

There are far more pressing race-related problems on the web and IRL especially in the Western world, than being mad over Camila Cabello.

[vinicius]

3 hours ago, goldenrainbow222 said:

How many times has she apologized? And what did she apologize for? You should make it clear because half of her defenders in here have tried to gaslight us into believing that none of this ever happened or existed.

 

Also, if you're not a Black person who is experiencing this racism (because every Black person has dealt with a 'Camila' in real life) you don't get to decide when someone is 'forgiven'. We will always look at her sideways and we will never forget this happened. If you're ok with forgiving her or ignoring her racist past that's fine for you, but don't feel some kind of way when others who are affected by her harmful racism refuse to. 

Gaslighting you? Don't you have Google or something? It was some reposts from Tumblr. The other Facebook "leaked messages" stuff are fake and there's proof.

 

To be honest, it's just the double standards at this point, because like someone said here, there are a lot of artists like Justin Bieber and even that Sabrina girl, who did questionable things, but they get a free pass, God knows why. I even go further and say that some of y'all faves just got lucky they didn't have stuff from their past leaked because I'm pretty sure there's more problematic stuff that will never see the light of the day and if it does, you will easily forgive because it's just hypocrisy at this point.

[goldenrainbow222]

1 hour ago, Phaunzie said:

I'm a dark-skinned Afro-Caribbean from Barbados, sweetheart. So yes, I do experience racism, colourism and the like. What I am saying is why are we digging back up her Tumblr rants about Normani, racist memes that she shared with her friends, and that hate crime of a blog every single time she releases? I can't be offended every single time, this girl releases. At this point, it was like kicking a dead horse that at least tried to change. 

 

So far, there have been no recent reports of microaggressions, prejudice against black individuals or covert racist/colourist acts. She at least seems to have changed for the better. So since you want to speak up for black people across the world, how do you want me to act? Do you want me to be in my feelings over her past? Do you want me to stand in solidarity with random people on the internet, who didn't know about Camilia's past? 

 

There are far more pressing race-related problems on the web and IRL especially in the Western world, than being mad over Camila Cabello.

You never answered the two questions I asked. I've never seen more than one apology, and that apology was a vague blanket statement that didn't acknowledge what she was actually taking accountability for. And we never saw any of these micro aggressions or racist behaviors before or after the exposé, so who's to say she has or hasn't healed? 

Also, it's not about bringing it up every time or beating a dead horse, it's about the fact that once someone has left a bad taste in your mouth, it doesn't go away. Add to the fact that because many of her songs are connected to Black performers and writers/producers, one can't help but to be reminded of her racist posts towards these very same people she relies on repeatedly for relevance. There are some people that will always see Alicia Keys as a home wrecker, and they will never fool with her music for that reason no matter how good it is. Same with DaBaby and his homophobic outburst or Chris Brown and his violent history towards women. It's hard to recover from a fractured reputation.
 

 

[goldenrainbow222]

5 minutes ago, vinicius said:

Gaslighting you? Don't you have Google or something? It was some reposts from Tumblr. The other Facebook "leaked messages" stuff are fake and there's proof.

 

To be honest, it's just the double standards at this point, because like someone said here, there are a lot of artists like Justin Bieber and even that Sabrina girl, who did questionable things, but they get a free pass, God knows why. I even go further and say that some of y'all faves just got lucky they didn't have stuff from their past leaked because I'm pretty sure there's more problematic stuff that will never see the light of the day and if it does, you will easily forgive because it's just hypocrisy at this point.

Yes, gaslighting has been happening because there are people who are literally trying to act like this incident never happened. I'm also sure you're right about double standards, and that's unfortunate for Camila I suppose. I don't listen to Justin Bieber and I didn't see Sabrina Carpenter's problematic posts so I can't speak to it, but she can be removed as well.

[Monsieurgedeon]

16 minutes ago, vinicius said:

Gaslighting you? Don't you have Google or something? It was some reposts from Tumblr. The other Facebook "leaked messages" stuff are fake and there's proof.

 

To be honest, it's just the double standards at this point, because like someone said here, there are a lot of artists like Justin Bieber and even that Sabrina girl, who did questionable things, but they get a free pass, God knows why. I even go further and say that some of y'all faves just got lucky they didn't have stuff from their past leaked because I'm pretty sure there's more problematic stuff that will never see the light of the day and if it does, you will easily forgive because it's just hypocrisy at this point.

 

Let's be honest, it's because she is of Latin American descent and a woman, making her an easy target for bullying under some virtue-signaling BS. It is just crazy to me how people believe they are allowed to pile on her for something she did when she was 13, which she acknowledged and apologized for. As mentioned before, where is this energy when it's a white male?

 

Worst thing is how good about themselves those people feel afterwards like they saved the world from racism or something for having insulted someone online. Clap clap I guess. 

[Boysdontcry]

8 hours ago, Bimbo said:

Well it's not working

 

 

You never get bored after all these years?

[Boysdontcry]

What about Justin Bieber, Shawn Mendes or Dua Lipa working with black artists?

[Boysdontcry]

5 hours ago, goldenrainbow222 said:

How many times has she apologized? And what did she apologize for? You should make it clear because half of her defenders in here have tried to gaslight us into believing that none of this ever happened or existed.

 

Also, if you're not a Black person who is experiencing this racism (because every Black person has dealt with a 'Camila' in real life) you don't get to decide when someone is 'forgiven'. We will always look at her sideways and we will never forget this happened. If you're ok with forgiving her or ignoring her racist past that's fine for you, but don't feel some kind of way when others who are affected by her harmful racism refuse to. 

Yeah I'm not reading all that. I'm happy or sorry it happened to you.

[Princess Aurora]

Mess 

[BOOMBAYAH]

Holding someone (who has since apologised and actively worked to better themselves) accountable for things they said as a child is actually insane. For most people, it's less about actually hating racism and more about trying to gain some sort of power over a successful and wealthy individual. And in this case, I'm 100% sure that misogyny also plays a role considering we have active white male singers and rappers who've been exposed for racism + most black male rappers could care less about darkskin black women, to the point where some have publicly even sided with Tory and against Megan for seemingly no reason other than "bro code". 

Edited July 7 by BOOMBAYAH

[xluvxduffxmusicx]

2 hours ago, Monsieurgedeon said:

 

Let's be honest, it's because she is of Latin American descent and a woman, making her an easy target for bullying under some virtue-signaling BS. It is just crazy to me how people believe they are allowed to pile on her for something she did when she was 13, which she acknowledged and apologized for. As mentioned before, where is this energy when it's a white male?

 

Worst thing is how good about themselves those people feel afterwards like they saved the world from racism or something for having insulted someone online. Clap clap I guess. 

You didn't lie tbh 

[Wicked]

7 hours ago, *.Digambar.* said:

The fact that people literally don't care about Bieber's racist past or SZAs homophobic past but choose to focus on Camila every time she does something is giving hypocrite. 

They both did, and continue to get dragged for both of those things. 

 

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

Y'all world revolves around Pop girls then when things like this happens you start the whataboutism when you don't even care about the people you bring up

[JC.]

6 hours ago, goldenrainbow222 said:

 

Also, if you're not a Black person who is experiencing this racism (because every Black person has dealt with a 'Camila' in real life) you don't get to decide when someone is 'forgiven'. We will always look at her sideways and we will never forget this happened. If you're ok with forgiving her or ignoring her racist past that's fine for you, but don't feel some kind of way when others who are affected by her harmful racism refuse to. 

This just screams that you are playing victim everytime Camilla gets brought up. "Harmful Racism" make it sound like she assaulted someone or discriminated against someone when all she did was share some tasteless  posts. I am black myself and I definitely do not sit on what she did and pretend like I am affected by it. It just feels very parasocial if someone lets this affect them and that point, just log off and go outside. 

[*.Digambar.*]

26 minutes ago, Wicked said:

They both did, and continue to get dragged for both of those things. 

 

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

Y'all world revolves around Pop girls then when things like this happens you start the whataboutism when you don't even care about the people you bring up

Be serious, they do not get dragged continuously for it like Camila does especially in pop spaces. Sorry that pointing out the hypocrisy annoys you. 

[Wicked]

Just now, *.Digambar.* said:

Be serious, they do not get dragged continuously for it like Camila does especially in pop spaces. Sorry that pointing out the hypocrisy annoys you. 

Joe Budden Podcast is NOT a Pop space. They don't give AF about any of these people mentioned in this thread except Drake and SZA... And Joe doesn't like either of them  he wouldn't even know who TF she was if it wasn't for Drakes feature on her album. Y'all are typing all these essays when it's really simple for a lot of people to not pay her any mind after finding that stuff out. You're acting like he randomly decided to drag her.

 

And for the record, Joe is a notorious Justin Bieber 'hater' for that exact past you wanted to bring up, but because I know that you didn't know who Joe Budden is until this thread but wanted to have an opinion anyway you won't have anything to say to that.

 

 

Every single time his name is brought up on the pod, he mentions it.

 

Everytime a rapper or R&B singer does a song with Justin Bieber they get dragged. Once again,you don't see it because you don't give AF about him anyway lmfao. You're acting like it matters to you when it doesn't cause you not checking for dude anyway. Find a different argument cause this one doesn't work when y'all be admitting this stuff to begin with. 

 

 

[Dialamba]

Using Justin is lame because he was the most hated celebrity since he was 16 
Tbh I'm tired of this topic, but first of all it wasn't some fake screenshots, Normani literally talked years ago about this issue, and it's one thing to be ignorant at 13 and being racist, you don't stop being racist once you turn 18. 
And I disagree with the guy because this is the worst marketing strategy she could do.

Edited July 7 by Dialamba

[san784]

10 hours ago, camilacabelloslaps said:

She was 13 and reposted a few memes, people still running with this racist narrative are truly pathetic and embarrassing. She's a full adult now why are you still attacking her for something she did as a kid, apologized for and learned then changed from. 

She wasn't 13, she was 15, and she was exposed when she was 22. At 15 you're old enough to know better. There were also multiple memes (not just one racist meme she posted that one time) and there were extremely racist. She seemed to have an issue with black people because she was constantly reblogging racist memes. Maybe if it was just one meme and it wasn't so disgusting I would maybe say she's just being an ignorant kid but those memes were disgusting and she posted multiple memes. Yes, she apologized but what else was she going to do after being exposed? Ignore it? Also why did she wait until she was exposed to take down the page? If I wrote something that was racist and I grew up and knew better I would go and delete my racist posts or delete the entire page (since there were so many posts). It wasn't even that long ago that she wrote that stuff from the time she got exposed.

Edited July 7 by san784